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TRUTH HOUR: AMERICAS HATE THE TRUTH AND EMBRACE THE LIE!
Subject: Newsletter_29_Non_Christian
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001
From: "Samuel Ewing"
Hello,
I've communicated before. I'm a non-Christian for so many reasons
that I wouldn't burden you with listing them. I really don't care
that someone took a passage from the Bible and used it for whatever
purpose. I don't think or feel that that is where the concern
really should be. I read someone's opinion on your website who
was from another country concerning the United States' activities
abroad. The documentation they presented was irrefutable concerning
this countries activities in other countries. I agree with that
opinion.
This country's
government has and is participating in all sorts of foul and disgusting
acts of violence against other people. I was a Marine Security
Guard at two embassies during the Iranian Crisis:
a. I was acutely
aware that a butcher like the Shah of Iran was supported by the
U.S.and when his usefulness was over it allowed another extremist
like Khomeini to come to power.
b. I was aware
that the U.S. vetoed sanctions against South Africa for its horrific
treatment enslavement and slaughter of Africans so that it could
obtain the rare metals it needed from African soil to operate
its fighter planes.
c. I was aware
that the U.S. HAD BROKEN A TREATY with Argentina concerning the
Falklands in favor of supporting Britain's claim of the Falklands.
How much more obviously imperialistic can a nation get? The Falkland
Islands are practically right next to Argentina; Britain on the
other side of the globe. How does it have a right to the islands.
d. I was aware
that every time women want men to buy them expensive gems, including
diamonds; African men and even children are killed or maimed in
large numbers to get the righteous Americans these nice glittery
things. South Africa is one among such exploited African countries
where this takes place.
e. I'm aware
that Israel and White South Africa ( called Saud Afrika) as well
as the United States have been in bed with each other in exploiting
Africa (Eurocentric Imperialist Colonialism is alive and well),
various tropical islands such as Port Louis Mauritius. I was stationed
on that island, observing that the arrogant Nazi-like Afrikaner
ran the island politically and economically. The U.S government,
U.S. business men, Afrikaners ( British, Norwegian, Dutch, French,
German,and Israel), and friends keep the majority of the population
in horrible poverty. A middle class person on this island was
someone who made $100.00 a month. Arikaners will tell you that
they have dual and triple citizenship so if things go bad for
them in the country where they are oppressing people they can
always flee to the U.S. or go back to Europe.
f. I saw how
teenage and young adult Afrikaners spent their days playing games
on the beach, drinking, sexual escapades, and dancing themselves
into oblivion, receiving cars and other expensive indulgences
from their wealthy parents, they don't go to school because they
don't have to, and they have no ambition to achieve anything.
They told me they don't have to work or study because mommy and
daddy were rich, they would inherit the business and wealth; and
the cycle of Eurocentric arrogance would continue. The new nobility
and decadent bourgeise. I observed how powerful Christian church
organizations, the Catholic church, various ambassadors, and Western
governments work together to keep people subjugated and poor;
while they profit by it. I observed how this same elite even exploits
attractive women of the poor minorities for their sexual escapades.
As a military person I observed that the military is little more
than "muscle" for the U.S. and Europe.I unfortunately met the
daughter of the British ambassador on my first day on Mauritius
and she was introduced to me. Her greeting to me was to call me
a "Nigger." "I can't believe you let niggers live with you and
wear the same uniform!!" As I said I was a Marine Security Guard
for the U.S. government. Of course that was normal. The French
spat on me and dared me to fight them. I offered to cause them
great pain and they cowered in fear like the moral degenerates
they were. Quite a few Afrikaners are former Rhodesian mercenaries
and descendants of Nazis. Yes the old guard of the Nazi Party
is wealthy and going strong under various guises. The U.S. government
knows this. Their in bed with them. It's not a secret except to
the weak, stupid, ignorant American citizen. I say the majority
in the U.S. WHO HAVE THE POWER TO STOP THIS RACIST OPPRESSON really
don't give a screaming eagle. After all why should they care about
changing a system that has benefitted them as well?
h. It is quite
clear to me that Western Civilization is always working to rule
this planet by hook or by crook, more likely the latter= military,
political, and cultural conquest. Notice I'm not mentioning Osama
Bin Laden because if this country had not been in bed with him
militarily and business wise, like a whore who knows if things
would have been better. Furthermore, this country is in business
with SAUDI ARABIA, who has supported Bin Laden - while at the
same time rebuking him - while at the same time acting reluctant
to support this country etc. etc. etc. U.S.A, DON'T CHANGE NOW!
BE CONSISTENT AS A WHORE. In this country there is an expression
used to describe American culture by certain individuals in the
African American community. I think it is quite appropriate: "The
United Snakes Of America."
i. *As a person
who isn't Christian I don't care about the issue of whether a
deity is going to destroy this country. What everyone should care
about is their contribution to the destruction of this country
by not holding the elite responsible for the havoc they commit
in other countries. I'm not buying that Americans didn't know
how hated they are, or their too busy to know or care about the
suffering that is going on on the majority of this planet moment
by moment. No excuse can be acceptable. Perhaps now this country
is getting an inkling that it is not as Heroic, Ethical, and Noble
as it deludes itself into believing; if that is a god at work;
I say great! This country is in need of a TRUTH HOUR TODAY! RIGHT
NOW! America is not the Chosen People of any god that it should
have carte-blanche to bring suffering and pain to the weak and
poor within its borders or abroad.
j. I'm aware
that because this country has and does support war criminals like
Saddam Hussein the leaders of the Middle East in the oppressed
areas see no need to lift their citizens out of ignorance and
poverty. Its easier to indoctrinate people into being terrorist
when they are hungry, angry, afraid to rebel against their leaders
and needing someone to vent against. And because they know this
country only by what it sees on the few tvs they have should it
be surprising that they would resent the affluence and self-indulgence
of America? I 'm totally against what happened in New York. It
was evil, however the American people need to get their heads
out their assets and look at how this country has contributed
to its own situations. Lives were needlessly lost in New York
because of the usual power-brokering that goes on too often. As
usual there will be memorials, congratulations for defeating the
enemy, reaffirmations of the American Way (we all know that truth
and justice are not part of this), certain people will be trying
to get re-elected if this turns out well, like in previous wars
in the last 30 years it will just begin to dawn on them that while
they were distracted by the war the economy is gone down to ruin,
instead of "Praise Jesus, we're going to war!", it will be "Praise
Jesus! We whipped them! We showed them!", the American people
will be stuck with the bill, the majority will go back to "whipping"
on those citizens who are not "on their level" as usual, and blissful
ignorance and American self-glorification will reign once again.
America the Deus & Dea Ex Machina is still in charge.
The MORAL
IMPERATIVE LIKE TRUTH AND JUSTICE WILL BE SENT KICKING AND SCREAMING
OUT SIGHT OUT OF MIND. HAIL CAESAR! HAIL THE AMERICAN WAY! AMERICAN
IMPERATOR-IMPERATRIX SUPREME! SON AND DAUGHTER OF GOD! DOMINUS!
HAIL VICTORY AND AMERICA IMPERIOUS REX! HAIL CAESAR! HAIL THE
EMPIRE, GLORIOUS VICTORY!
Samuel Ewing,
SARASWATI@prodigy.net
P.S. OH! By
the way, not only is harming people physically a form of violence
(terrorism); but lying, deceiving, keeping people in ignorance
and poverty, racism, imperialism, treachery, trickery and exploitation
are forms of violence too! Lest we all forget.
Response:
You are right America is not the chosen people of some diety.
I would say all people are. God loves all the world -even America,
including you and such a defective person as I. In terms of America,
be thankful that this is a country where your anti-American words
can be published. America is not perfect, but it has great freedoms
that well worth defending. -David
DISAGREE
Subject: Newsletter_29 Revising John
3:16
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001
From: TOM Peck
Dear Bruce,
I am not going to "cancel" my subscription to your newsletter,
but I am going to disagree with you on a number of items.
First, as
Christians, we are called to "think Biblically". This means developing
a systematic theology and not just a devotional one. Christ came
both to save and condemn the world and to focus on only one and
not the other is like walking on only one leg.
I agree that
Mr. Falwell's and Mr. Robertson's comments were poorly timed but,
Scripturally, they have some (note I said some) validity. God
is the one who judges and has the sovereign to do as He Wills.
God allows "bad things" for any number of reasons: to punish,
to cleanse, to purify, to build character, to bring about repentance,
to bring focus to Him. In many ways the events of 9-11 have done
all that to the American Psyche.
But the true
gist of your article was an argument that we should be more loving
to others. This is a fact. Being "unloving" is part of our sin
nature. I found it most disconcerting that you chose to obliterate
the names of those you found whose actions were distasteful (Falafel,
Doubloons) while calling on us to be more respectful. This is
something you should think about. The other aspect that concerned
me is this idea that criticism is tantamount to intolerance. No
where, from what I have read, has Mr. Falwell or Mr. Robertson
indicated that God now "hates" America, yet because they criticize
the culture for turning from God, this implies hate?
As a parent
sometimes I have to discipline my children. It might be a grounding,
a time out, a spanking, a fine, or simply saying "no". Does this
mean I "hate" my children because I punish? Of course not, so
why would we not give God the same lea way.
As a Christian,
we know that it is not deeds or actions that bring salvation,
but instead this is a work of God. Do not get caught up in the
world's idea that good men cannot do bad or that bad men cannot
do good. God defines goodness, not us.
Major Guliani
wept for the police and firemen who died that terrible day but
supports the murder of children in the womb. How many people in
the Trade Center were cheating on their spouse, stealing money
from their companies, back-stabbing co-workers, yet to others
were dedicated employees, loving spouses, little league coaches,
church members.
There is some
great need in the Fundamental Evangelicals to pretend to be prophets
and that is why they often put their collective feet in their
mouth with outrageous and albeit stupid remarks. Fundamentals,
by the way, believe in the inerrancy of Scripture (not necessarily
a translation of the same) and that the principals set forth in
the Bible are absolute Truths. The problem we run into is that
too many of my Fundamental brothers mix culture with Scripture
(I always ask them why they wear ties to church, shouldn't they
be wearing togas?)
God set out
rules for our conduct as a way to show our love for Him. He told
us to take off the view of the world and put on the eyes of God,
which He showed through the Bible. He requires us to be honest,
to love others, to live lives of good repute and to encourage
and promote concepts like justice and good. We are to love others
more than ourselves, be understanding, but be firm for Him.
We must also
balance the fact that without Christ, people go to hell, a message
most non-believers really don't want to hear (too negative), but
it is one that must be heard. It is not about death but eternal
separation.
The problem
is how much do we water that concept down in our attempt to be
tolerent of others and not wanting to "offend" others. I say yes,
we should love others, but we do need to find opportunities to
tell them, even if it is something they do not want to hear.
Speaking of
kids, if one of them were running into the street and a truck
was approaching would I hesitate to tell them not to do that because
they might get uncomfortable or be mad at me or take offense with
me? Their feelings about me would not be important because their
life is at stake. This is true with every non-believer.
Hope you don't
unsubscribe me.
May our Lord continue to Bless your ministry.
In Him, Tom Peck
MISSING
THE WHOLE POINT OF JESUS
Subject: Put Off by Fundamentalism Newsletter_29_I_Like_Jesus_But_Not_Fundamentalism
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001
From: Chama
I think fundamentalists
miss the whole point of the Gospel of Jesus Christ by dwelling
upon the minutiae of religious life instead of the major purpose
of Christianity: to share the Good News that God loves us and
that Jesus Christ died and rose again to give us new life.
Response:
Yes "Gospel" means good news, not bad. How can some
one say "God loves you and the WTC proves it."? -David
FED
UP WITH DOOMSDAY PREDICTIONS
Subject: Newsletter_29 Feedup_with_Dooms_Day_Predictions
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001
From: Chama
I don't believe
the world is any nearer to "Doomsday" than it has ever been. The
world is in its adolescence if not in its infancy. We have so
much yet to learn, so far to go in our exploration of space, inner
space, and the ocean's depths. If we can only learn to live in
peace and generosity, the world has much to live for. The world,
as we know it, ends for each of us at the moment of our death,
when we leave time and space to enter into a new dimension of
existence which we can only imagine. Christians call it Heaven.
. .or Eternal Life.
Response:
I think you are on to something here. -David
GOS
DOES NOT SEND SUCH TRAGEDY
Subject: Newsletter_29_RevisingJohn_3_16
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001
From: Chama
No need to
revise. . .I am with you 100%! God may USE the tragedy of 9-11
to help us awaken to our need for generosity and unity in the
face of evil, but God does not SEND such tragedy into our lives.
God does not judge the USA nor any political entity. God seeks
ALL people to love God and to love one another.
Response:
Amen! -David
BUT
THE WORD REPENT IS STILL APPRPRIATE
Subject: Newsletter_29
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001
From: Bob Jackson
Dear Bruce,
Again, I thank you for your comments on John 3: 16, and especially
find them appropriate in conjunction with Philippians 4:8. I,
too, like you am embarrassed by some of the people who misspeak
in their hesitancy to find God's hand in acts of evil. My son,
who lives in Arlington, VA, just a stone's throw from the Pentagon,
was extremely angry with the comments of Jerry Fallwell. I am
glad that he apologized and put himself in the group that needs
to repent. I am reminded that while he has a boatload of sinners
to point at, he seldom speaks to the issue of wealth and poverty
and other issues touched on in Scripture.
I am also
disappointed that Dr. Dobson and the folks at Focus on the Family,
have come across as angry and reactionary. They are largely responsible
for the beautiful NIV Inclusive Language Bible being unavailable
in America (one has to get it from England), and I feel that it
is because they listen to only a small select group of scholars
who are largely identified with Evangelicals with an alarmist
mentality. (Yes so true! Why do Evangelicals
listen to these people? Dobson is not a Bible scholar. He is a
Child expert. What gave him the right to take on trained and dedicated
experts in Bible scholarship? -David)
You've hit
the pre-millennialism squarely, in my opinion. They cause more
trouble and feed more mis-information with their schemes and their
false predictions and misunderstandings of the Last Days than
they do good. (Failure rate is 100% -David)
But the lessons
that Jesus teaches in Luke 13 (1-9) are still appropriate anytime
there is a tragedy or the like. We need to repent, that is evaluate
our own relationship to God and need for God, and recognize that
we don't deserve to still be here, but by the grace of God we
are. And I think that is what you refer to concerning the people
of New York, D.C., and across the land. We are repenting, that
is, drawing nearer to God. (God uses the event
to, as he does all things that happen -Romans 8:28. -David)
My hope is
that more people such as you will get the word out. Your message
is good. Keep up the good work.
--Bob Jackson
Response:
Thank you -David
Re:
GOD'S PROTECTIVE HAND HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY
Subject: Newsletter_29
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001
From: Mark
Wow, I've
just read your response to my original posting and feel truly
humbled. Reading what I'd written, I realise I came across as
far too harsh, so many apologies for that. I certainly didn't
intend to knock America - I come from the UK and see God's protection
disappearing from many aspects of society over here too. I was
rather arrogant to comment on a country that I have only spent
a few weeks in, so once again I apologise for my lack of insight.
It could so easily have been a building in London that was hit,
not New York. And of course America is not Godless - a group of
men from our London church visited Pensicola two years ago, and
they came back overflowing with blessing!
Response:
Thanks Mark for your continuing participation. -David
OSAKA?
Subject: Newsletter_29 with out
Spell Check
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001
From: "Mark Campbell"
Oh, I thought
you meant to call him Osaka bin Laden - how disappointing to find
it was just a spellcheck error!
Mark
Response:
Ahh, technology! -David
DAVID,
YOU HAVE A BASHING TONE
Subject: Newsletter_29 Revising
John 3:16
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001
From: Scooby
I have read
your last few newsletters, and I can't help but wonder WHY you
have been on a BASHING tone lately. Why all the bashing? Couldn't
you just stick with spreading the gospel and talking movies, or
entertainment?
You know,
Jimmy Swaggart started out the same way. He was bashing everybody,
until God finally reveled his sin to everybody. You better be
careful before you start bashing these men of God. Sure, they
may make mistakes, but who are you to point them all out and get
others to turn against them?
BE VERY CAREFUL!
Response:
Thanks for your concern. I can appreciate that. Unlike "holier
than thou" Swaggert, however, I am not a Fundamentalist and
I am willing to admit to the sinful and corrupt person I am. I
am no angel. -David
JUDGMENT
CALL
Subject: Newsletter_29
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001
From: Bec
From where
I sit on the other side of the world, the suggestion may be that
it is not God but your fellow human beings who are judging you,
the American people. American students I encounter seem to have
little understanding of the way that "America" is perceived by
the rest of the world - not as an inclusive and generous nation,
but one which inflicts pain and suffering on other nations through
economic sanctions, wars, cultural colonisation, actual and invidious
colonisation, injustices, funding of terrorist regimes (when they
want to), supply of arms to governments they agree with....need
I go on. These same students are genuinely confused about these
attacks - they are uncritically patriotic, and I think that -evil
though it may be- Sept 11 is a result of that uncritical and biased
(some would say arrogant) self-belief. There is also a sense of
incredulity when I explain to my students that America sees itself
as God's nation on earth, tied to dreams of manifest destiny -
they find it very difficult to reconcile America as a Christian
country after all that it has done in the world to inflict non-Christian
behaviour and the way that it doesn't take care of its own poor
let alone any one elses (apart from dropping food parcels literally
on the people of Afghanistan and killing or injuring them). So,
just another point of view....
Response:
Yes, America is being judged by fellow humans. You are right.
-David
NOT
TELLING ALL
Subject: Newsletter_29 with out
Spell Check
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001
From: "Des Carroll"
How come it
only happened to the surnames of people you appeared to be canning
and not elsewhere in the text? I don’t think you are telling all.
Regards, Des Carroll
Response:
Well, stranger things have happened. You will note that Dobson
and Braswell were NOT canned. Please be fair. -David
THE
WAR
Subject: THE WAR Newsletter_29
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001
From: scott berry
g'day david
i'm just pleased
to see the western world
finally taking over the inhumane taliban
their government is evil and has been massacring their own people
they can't be reasoned with
so i'm pleased
that through the tragedies of sept 11
it will finally bring about the end to the talibans evil rule
regards scott berry
CONDITIONAL
GRACE
Subject: response to John 316 Newsletter_29
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:11:26 -0800
From: "micki"
What if we
replaced the idea of God's judgement with the idea of God removing
His grace? Because we have become a Godless society. Didn't God
take his grace away in the past? Or at least threaten to? Think
of Ninevah...they repented, God relented. As a nation, we have
become secularized. We do not let God into the foundations of
our government, our schools, we have removed him. It was illegal
until just last year or so, to silently pray in the Congressional
rotunda.
Many of those
groups that Jerry Falwell, (or Falafel, if you prefer!) mentioned
have at the very root of their belief system the removal of God
or I really mean, Jesus Christ. John 3:16 says "whoever believes
in Him will have everlasting life..." It does NOT say, "whoever
acknowledges that the person of Jesus existed in a historical
context...". So does the grace of God apply to an entire nation
that does not accept His Son? I think you have to be a member
of the club to have the rights and priveleges. Does that seem
exclusionary? You bet! However, everyone has the choice to join
(believe) or not.
I think that
God removed His hand of mercy from our country so that the CHRISTIANS
would repent and interceed for our nation. I believe that we are
responsible to God because we profess His Son's name. I think
we, as Christians, have become hypocritical and complacent. God
wants to bless us. He wants to pour out His mercy and He LET this
terrible thing happen. HE DID NOT CAUSE IT!!!! In any way, shape
or form! But, He did not prevent it. It was a wake up call, that's
all. It was a tragedy, yes! There are perpetrators that need to
be punished, yes! But, WE NEED TO PRAY! Now we, as Christians
have a choice what we do from here. We should not throw stones,
we should be looking at our own lives and our own sin...because
we are all sinners!
I am so proud
to be an American. But I also am a fundamental, bible believing
Christian who is on her face before God for the state of my nation
and for the state of my own heart.
Please give
these guys a break (Jerry, Pat, Hal, etc). Do they not have the
same freedom of speech and belief that the rest of us have? Yes,
they have a responsibility before God for the things they say,
but God is big enough to deal with their mistakes (If they are
making any... who am I to say?). I am so tired of the lobbyist,
liberal, pagen, secular groups saying anything they want and it's
okay. They can totally trash the fundmental Christians and apparently
it is not a problem, even on this site. It is such a double standard!
Let both sides have the same freedoms! We are all Americans, that
is what makes this country great! God Bless my country, Lord
I pray the
prayer of Daniel, found in Daniel 9:4...
Paraphrase...
"Lord, you are Great and Awesome. We have sinned and done wrong.
We have rebelled and turned from your ways. We are covered in
shame because of our unfaithfulness to You...Now, O Lord, hear
us and look with favor on us. We do not pray because we are righteous,
but because of Your great mercy. Oh Lord, listen! Oh Lord, forgive!
Oh Lord, hear and act! For Your sake, do not delay, for we bear
Your name."
And that's
all I have to say about that!
Micki Newcastle, WA
Response:
Grace is never earned, it is unmerited and unconditional. Please
ask your pastor about the meaning of Grace."For by grace
you are saved, not by works..." Also, why would God "call
Christians to repentance" by, in some fashion, killing innocent
people in the WTC? Do you really believe this is how God operates.
Please think about what you are saying. Your words are a mandate
against God, I believe, and not Christians. -David
911
AMENS
Subject: Newsletter_29_I_Like_Jesus_But_Not_Fundamentalism
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001
From: Martha Tischler
Dear Bruce
You have again put in print what I prayed other Christians were
thinking. Fallwell's statements got me burning mad. And why do
they always pick and chose which terrible events are a judgement
from God and other's just the result of a fallen world. For instance,
how many Christians thought the bombing of Pearl Harbor a judgement
or how about the Holocaust? Was it God's will to do in 6 million
of his chosen and 6 million other poor souls? Did the Lord arrange
the slaughter of the Armenian Christians and the sad deaths of
untold Africans in the Sudan. Just think of all the rapes, murders
and assaults that might be God's judgements. How about the Civil
War? Did the North and South deserve all it got? And everytime
a plane crashes, or a train derails, or there's a terrible fire,
or a car accident or some other horrible disaster should we all
think that this is all God's judgement for our sins? The is no
end to the casualty lists that we can lay at the door or heaven.
NO - THIS IS NOT JESUS. Jesus came to seek and save those who
are lost not to judge. The warped view of some cannot cloud the
Christ of love and compassion. And always, He will be seen by
those who seek Him and desire peace and love.
Peace to you Bruce In His Service
Martha Tischler
FALAFEL
IN ARABIC
Subject: Newsletter # 29 with
out Spell Check
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001
From: Congregacion Beit Shalom
Dear David:
do you know what "falafel" means in Arabic? It is the arabic equivalent
to the Mexican taco!
May Elohim bless you,
Julio Dam Messianic
Renewed Rabbi
AMEN!
Subject: Newsletter_29_Feedup_with_Dooms_Day_Predictions
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001
From: Tony
Amen
- Tony
Instructor in Music and Worship Studies
Columbia Bible College
HIGH
5 BROTHER!
Subject: Newsletter_29
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001
From: Keith
It good to
see, a christian. willing to stick, his neck out and risk, getting
his head chopped off, for the lord. sent with joy and love! †
Keith
http://community.webtv.net/KeithWK/PSALM45 http://community.webtv.net/KeithWK/Thepottersclay
Response:
I do get the eggs. Ahh! So what. I like scrambled eggs any time
of the day. Thanks for your encouragement -David
BOLD
Subject: Newsletter_29
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001
From: Kevin
It`s good
to be Bold in the spirit.
Keep on saying, what you want to say to us.
Thumbs Up!.
Kevin
http://community.webtv.net/KevinKunz/JESUSTHEWAY
THANKS!
Subject: Newsletter_29_Feedup_with_Dooms_Day_Predictions
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001
From: Pastor Charles Isaac
Good comments.
I have forwarded them to may people!
Pastor Charles Isaac
First Baptist Church
Taylorville IL
Response:
Thanks Pastor, I can always use a good blessing. I will bet you
gotta cool church -David
EVANGELICAL
PASTOR FED UP WITH EVANGELICAL SUB CULTURE
Subject: Newsletter_29I _I_Like_Jesus_But_Not_Fundamentalism
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001
From: "Peg Peters"
I am a pastor
in an evangelical church and I can hardly take it anymore! I am
from Canada and it is just as bad up here with the evangelical
sub-culture. Keep up your excellent work! I came down for the
City of Angels film Festival - I was sad that you were not there?
I would be willing to write a review of the event if you want
one.
Rev Randy Peg Peters,
Phd candidate
Simon Fraser University
Vancouver BC Canada
Response:
So sorry for not being at the Film Fest, I was in the hospital
and could not make it. My physical health recently has been real
good. I did so miss the fest and I am sorry to have missed the
opportunity of meeting you. Thank you for your kind words. -David
TOLERANCE
VERSUS LOVE
Subject: Newsletter_29
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001
From: "Nick Alexander" The Catholic "Weird Al"
Hi David!!
Always a pleasure to hear from you. Very good article.
If I have
a concern, it's that, yes, we live in a pluralistic society, and
there always seem to be two responses: either damn all those who
don't agree with you, or tolerate their existence. I think there's
a third approach, and that is to love people who disagree with
you. However, to love is a step beyond tolerance--it's about dialogue.
It's about understanding that it's not logical to have contradictory
beliefs sharing their existence in this wide world of ideas.
Someone who
loves a person with another belief takes great pains to understand
the other person's perspective, and loving them unconditionally--whether
they will convert to Christianity or not. This takes time. This
may challenge your own deeply held beliefs. If you're truly walking
with Christ, you should have no fear.
But tolerance
can be just as bad as intolerance--it's neglect with a happy feel.
Treat differing beliefs with the highest respect by calling them
to question where they differ from yours, with love, with real-honest-love,
and not mere toleration-due-to-circumstance.
Nick Alexander
The Catholic "Weird Al"
http://www.nickalexander.com
Response:
Keep on keepin on brother. Love your ministry -David
SELF
CENSORING
Subject: Newsletter_29_Hollywood_Censoring_Hollywood
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001
From: Kevin
Hollywood
should Cenor it`s self!
- Kevin
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