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TOYS GONE TO WASTE ON BAD STORY TELLERS
Subject:
Mission to Mars
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000
From: Ron
Leaves
me wondering what the heck happened! The equipment, the sets, the
spacecraft, everything were right on. Real believable, in fact I
felt as though NASA and companies like Boeing (Douglas), Lockheed
and Raytheon helped or contributed to the images and accuracy. All
of it was, I?m sure a truer look into our near future in space than
anything I?ve seen for a while. Oh but the script, and the scenes
were a complete failure. I had plenty of time to think during the
boring, contrived dialog and desperate attempts by the actors to
stretch things out and make things work, I thought "OH no", they
have spent all the budget on Techno, and totally botched the story.
It?s a great story! One that should be told, but it was a failure
on the management of the film. Bad Job BOYZ? you failed! No amount
of heads up, I don?t know what I?m talking about or you don?t count
will change that. It smacks of egotistic, bumbling at the upper
levels to me; you can just smell it. If you received much monitory
support from NASA, or Dr Pepper or the aircraft companies, it was
a shell game you pulled off, and I hope they wise up and take you
to court. In fact that?s a good story, like Robert DeNiro in Wag
the Dog? Only it?s Pastawits in "A Swag in Space"?. A story about
a wayward Rabbi convinces NASA and the Defense establishment to
promote their failing image through a bogus film. Go for it, it?s
yours. Please do it over! Please?. You idiots, and this time leave
it alone, keep your hands out of it. A good example of how to pull
this story off was "Contact". Good Techno, good story line and script,
good follow through and some solid but not super big actors. I bet
the budget was near the same but they did so well. Ending with the
same theme, hope and a positive look out to the stars and our future.
OH well, sorry, too bad good toys gone to waste on rotten storytellers.
And what?s this line you dreamed up, "what we were born for", real
real bad? RON
HORRID
MISSION TO MARS
Subject: Bad movie Horrid Movie
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000
From: Casey Stephens Casey1939@aol.com
when
i went to see MTM I was so excitied. Tim Robbins and Gary Sinese
in the same movie! 2 of my almost fav. actors that I enjoyed watching
in the Shawshank Redemption and Gary in "Of Mice and Men" and "The
Stand". I actually asked for my money back @ the end of the movie.
Dialogue was horrible. The bad corny lines didn't make much leeway
for the actors to actually Act well. I knew it was gonna be a not-so-great
movie in the first scene of the bar-b-Q when the black guy (don't
remember his name) was having a conversation w/ Sinese..it was just
toooo CORNY. The movie spent all that time developing the problem,
and developing the solution, and then @ the end, no definite solution
was made! Why did Sinese feel he had to go w/ this Strange "mother
of humanity"? and just so many Whys? and i hope to goodness they
don't make a sequel, which the plot kind of needs, but i hope they
put this kind of directing, writing and acting in a trash can somewhere.
The movie was not at all as well put together as most movies, and
some of the scenes (like the people walking around on the space
ship in that circle thing, and the "goodbye" scene between Robbins
and his Wife) were just too sappy and too drawn out. The fact that
the movie supports evolution is against the Bible, and against scientific
evidence (last i checked evolution was still a Theory). Sinese looked
as if he was constipated through the whole movie (chuckle, ha ha)
My friend and I laughed our butts off @ the end of the movie, mainly
because we were stunned that we had spent 7 dollars to see a mediocre
movie that had the screenplay/dialogue of a high school play. but
anyways, i know this movie is fiction, but it was bad fiction, that
flowed horribly and was too corny for my star trek loving mind :)
sorry for this not-so-good put together review :) Casey Stephens
Casey1939@aol.com
GLORY
SHOULD GO TO GOD
Date: 14 Sep 00
From: Richard Alexander
Dear
Sir, I recently bought a DVD copy of Mission to Mars, which not
only includes the movie, but a behind-the-scenes look at its creation.
I have watched the movie 3 times, twice after watching the additional
material on the disk. The movie is enjoyable and has many great
parts. It also has weaknesses. The most troubling aspect of the
movie is that it portrays adoration and love to the Martians for
man's creation, when that glory should go to God. It is sad to me
that credit for God's creation should go to a mythical civilization,
one that can't possibly care for humanity as God does. It is also
troubling that the climax of the movie, the ultimate hope given
by the movie, is that one man got to travel to another galaxy where
he may meet the creatures who are his maker. This sounds like the
typical humanistic hope; everyone is going to die, and after death
there is nothing but other people's memories of you, but the great
hope is ultimate knowledge of the wonders of the Universe for our
children.
The
Christian's hope is that each individual among the redeemed will
experience immortality and life in glory forever with God; the things
of this Universe "will grow strangly dim, in the light of His glory
and grace." My displeasure at the movie's message is relieved a
bit by the knowledge that any informed, rational person should realize
that the premise of the movie has no legs. There is no Face on Mars.
Life began soon after Earth's formation (even the evolutionists
acknowledge that life forms have been found in nearly the oldest
time periods of Earth's history), meaning that DNA was already well-established
on Earth long before the Martians could have sent ships to Earth.
The colder environment of Mars makes chemical processes slower,
presumably meaning that evolution would also evolve slower on Mars
than on Earth.
Even
if Martians had seeded ancient Earth with DNA in the Cambrian period,
there has been a lot of variety in life since then; there is nothing
that says that intelligent life or the dominant life form on Earth
had to have a humanoid form. I enjoy the movie most when I consider
it as just a fun, escapist fantasy, with very little expectation
of seriousness. There are many other things I could nit-pick on
this movie, but they aren't really relevant to the theme of this
site.
Sincerely, Richard Alexander
THE
EVILS OF MISSION TO MARS, DEMON ALERT
Subject:
comments for christians
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000
From: Dennis Murton
Greetings
in the name of our LORD JESUS CRIST.I have just found this site
very recently and thought this would give me a good insight on new
movies .But I have to say ,just looking at the review of this movie
and the comments about it , do christians really belong in a movie
like this? are we not promoting the making of these kind of movies?
If we let our kids watch them would it make them numb to all the
media that's out there about aliens? Just like many commented I
believe these so called aliens are demons .There is a spiritual
world and the devil and his angels want nothing more but to take
as many as possible with them.I am not writing this to condem any
of you for watching it but let's be careful what we feed our minds
with and be aware of the spiritual warfare that is going on and
supporting the filmmakers by visiting their movies.
Claudia
Response:
What? Take two steps back and listen to yourself. I am supporting
a promotion of demons by going to this film -and it numbs kids?
I have no words. Do you subscribe to newspapers? Do you watch television?
Do you step out your front door? Do you read only the Bible? Do
you not connect with the larger world?
WEAK
FINISH
Subject: Strong Start, Weak Finish
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000
From: Campus Chronicle Editor
Mission
to Mars disappointed me. The beginning was thundrously powerful,
but the longer the movie went on, the worse it got. The whole scene
where Tim Robbins' character sacrificed himself for his wife was
awful, and not in an emotional sense. It seems to me that in order
to sustain suspense, something has to go right. Nothing in that
scene went right, so by the time he committed suicide, I was just
depressed. The end was rather like the end of Sphere. Like Sphere,
it was touch-feely. Like Sphere, it lacked the sense of triumph
I think the director was shooting for.
DISAPPOINTING
ENDING
Subject: Oh puh-lease...
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000
From: The Butson Family
As
a science fiction fan and an engineer AND a movie fan, I appreciated
the first 80% of the movie as good storytelling as well as tribute
to a number of other movies which came before it. But as my wife
and I were discussing the EXTREMELY disappointing ending on the
way home, my going-on-12-year-old daughter who saw it with us picked
up on our exasperation with the schmaltzy hand holding at the end
and stated, "All they needed was for everyone to start singing Kumbaya!"
(My wife, incidently, says I have no one to blame for this bundle
of personality and sarcasm but myself...). THAT was it exactly.
Even the massive towers as the white light rose up through the structure
were....yes, alien figures reaching for the stars. Gag me with a
HAL 9000! So, great solid buildup to a soggy sponge of an ending.
Connectedness is fine, but the visual Kumbaya was a real bust.
A
LITTLE LAME
Subject:A little lame, I must say
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000
From: The Butson Family
David!!
Mission to Mars left my husband, daughter and I wondering "what
happened?" It was great until they got into the face on Mars and
started holding hands with the alien and with each other. . .the
creators absolutely lost me at that point. It then became like a
trip to Epcot to promote the Extra-Terrestrial pavilion. . . I definitely
got the connectedness theme though. That was refreshing.The relationship
between Tim Robbins' character and his wife, and the relationships
between the entire crew was great to see on screen. No bickering,
name-calling, but kindness and support offered to one another and
the sacrificing of one life to save the rest. That's the good stuff
that me and my family came away with. The special effects were good
(what else can you expect from ILM and Disney?), but any Biblical
symbolism was lost on me. I'll take an astronaut dancing with his
wife in zero-gravity and good friends BEING friends.
IT
IS NOT ABSURD
Subject: to Chris Evans...
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000
From: Stephen
I
just wanted to say that the seen where Connie Nielson tries to reach
Tim Robbins is not absurd. Due to the gravitational pull, Connie
wouldn't have had enough to get her and Tim back to the others.
I just wanted to clear this up, because obviously you overlooked
it.
M2M
IS ANTI-GOD
Subject: Mission to Mars
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000
From: "Steve Evans"
I
worked at ILM when they were working on Mission to Mars. I can assure
you that there is no Christian symbolism in that movie. There might
be two Christians at ILM, and they probably don't work in the art
or CG department. I can't believe that Christians would support
this pro-evolution, anti-God movie. I can understand you trying
to find the positive side of movies but this movie has a very clear
agenda. Side note- in space there is no resistance so hence the
woman wouldn't have to have but a small burst to propel herself
towards Timothy Robbins. Therefore that scene was obsurd.
Thank you Chris Evans
Response:
So, let's see. One man giving his life for the sake of others. HMMM,
yeah you are right. Dosen't seem like a very Christian concept to
me either! I mean, good grief! It is anti-God. Thank you for your
warming. -David
MISSION
TO REVELATION
Subject: Mission_to_Mars
Date: 28 Mar 00
From: gavin
I
recently saw the movie "Mission to Mars" and I thought it was a
pretty good movie. Like others in its class, human creation by "alien"
intervention seems to be the focus.. Revelation records that entities
"inspired utterances of demons which look in appearance as frogs
will mislead the kings of the earth" would appear during the end
days. Do not "greys" look like frogs? Is it mere coincidence that
another primary "ET" type is (lizard) reptilian in nature also?
Daniel in his final part of the statue prophesy states "they will
mix with the seed of mankind and not stick together"... could the
abductions we hear so much about which involve sexual experiments
as well as animal mutilations be a cloning project? Hence an introduction
of a new species derived from the seed of man? The face of Mars
is depicted as a grey in "Mission to Mars" when in fact it is a
partially destroyed lion's face. The side intact was never cleary
photographed until recently. The older portion photographed by the
original Viking lander was a low resolution image of the destroyed
portion of the face - which rendered it humanlike. Very close indeed
from its original feline form. What does this lion have in accordance
to scripture? In Revelation Jesus is described as a Lamb, Lion,
and in his governmental arrangement, a capstone (or cornerstone)
depending on translation. Jesus was depicted as a lion because he
won that great battle. "The Lion from the tribe of Judah who has
conquered"... Could this structure on Mars be an edifice to Him?
Much archeological evidence seems to make this Christian connection....from
Mars to Earth. According to Isaiah 19:19... structures which appear
to be the Great Pyramids themselves are referred to as "Altars to
Jehova in the midst of egypt"... And that the egyptians themselves
had no idea who this God was who constructed them until Moses arrived.
To further support this Biblical writing, Archaologists have recently
announced that the Pyramids appear to be much older than Cairo and
have no connection to Egytpian's whatsoever. Cairo, according to
ancient records means "The victorious from the Great War of Mars"...
Mars is known mythologically as WAR. The sphinx has a human face
carved on it much younger than the rest of the statue. It is tiny
and out of place compared to the remaining heavily eroded statue.
Could this face have been recarved at a later date ie when the egyptians
arrived? We will get back to the "lion" in a moment. The great pyramid
of Giza, according to archaeologists was covered with a gleaming
gold capstone....and 144,000 white outer casing stones as well.
A direct relation to Jesus and his 144,000. This pyramid very possibly
was an altar ie some type of mechanical structure important to the
original covenant of Jehova and His Son Jesus. Jesus' ransom sacrifice
was necessary to restore this covenant and salvation program to
mankind to deter Satan's original plan in the Garden of Eden. All
the pieces seem to fit.... Mars' lion, the lion (recarved to a Sphinx)
and the pyramids of Egypt (Isaiah 19:19). The 144,000 who reign
under Christ as King during the Millenium. Just be wary if and when
the "grey bretheren" come to save us from our demise..... It could
be a nasty deception. And get ready for many more movies depicting
alien contact as the public is made aware... "Gavin"
Response:
Wow! I am curious, did you read "Fingerprints of the Gods?"
UTTERANCES
OF DEMONS
Subject: Mission to Mars
Date: 28 Mar 00
From: gavin
I saw Mission to Mars, and I actually enjoyed this movie. However,
it is among many of recent films invoking a sense of evolution by
advanced "alien gray" type creatures. Christians, like it or not...
we are about to be introduced to some very overwhelming material
to test our faith... ie Artificial structures on Mars is only the
beginning...and they are really there. In this movie, the face on
Mars is mis-represented as an "alien grey" type creature. Truth
is this edifice is a partially destroyed lion's face. Viking's videcon
tube captured the destroyed surface and blurred it into what appears
to be human. The other half recently re-photographed clearly shows
the true feline likeness. Mars was devastated long ago by war or
other demise. Curious that mythologically Mars is associated with
war. Greys fit the description in Revelation as "Utterances of demons
that look like frogs that deceive the kings of the earth"... another
popular reported alien
GREAT
THEMES IN M2M
Subject:comments
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000
From: "Rich Thornton"
I saw Mission to Mars today and really enjoyed it. It was nice to
see a PG movie that took you to the edge of expectation but didn't
go over the edge. The fact that the movie celebrated two good marriages
was great too. When the one husband gave his life for his wife it
was a real picture of what a husband is to be willing to do. I enjoyed
the friendships of those involved instead of the usual competiveness
that can go along with any important venture. It was a good movie
and a great way to spend a day off. --Rich Thornton
Response:
Yes, it was refreshing to see this. -David.
SHADES
OF CHARIOTS OF THE GODS
Subject: Comments on Film
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000
From: TAORR
Your
comments on this film are insightful, though I found the central
argument, that our DNA was deposited on earth by aliens, to be a
bit tired--shades of "Chariots of the Gods" from a few years back.
I agree that the "connectedness of life" theme is affirmative and
quite Biblical as far as it goes, but the film presses no further.
Lots of pagans believe in this idea too. The primacy of divine creation
is largely missing from the film
Response:
You are right about this. -David
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There
is a key line in this film that I found profound: "The universe
is not chaos. It's connection. Life reaches out for life. Isn't
that what we are born for? To stand in a new world. To look beyond
this to the next one."
