center>
LEFT BEHIND
Page 4
Review Page 1
Comments Page 2
Comments Page 3
Comments Page 4
<You are here.
Comments Page 5

This page was created on March 29, 2000
and was lasted updated on May 22, 2005

Comments continued

Review Page 1
Comments Page 2
Comments Page 3
Comments Page 4
<You are here.
Comments Page 5

Bulletin Board:

WHY PICK THE MOVIE APART
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001
From: BNAHS

I so agree with "Wilson." Why do we want to pick this movie apart? I am an avid fan of the books and was a bit disapointed in the adaptation, but let's lookat the big picture. What an amazing message-it brought me into a much deeper state of gratitude for my salvation and I can't even imagine what effect this movie could have on The unsaved.

The fact is God can and will use whatever he wants to get the truth out there. He knows the hearts of the people who wrote, directed and produced this film and that's the bigger picture. Let's remember that this is really HIS movie, and he will take care of the details.

It is a blessing that this film was made and that it will be in theatres nationwide. I can't wait to see it again and see the response to it! I just hope we get the seven sequels as well!

REVIVING THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY
Subject: Fw: LEFT BEHIND
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000
From: "Wilson"

I read the postings with a lot of interest and it pains to see that a work that wants to revive the Christian community has been shot down for the darnest of reasons.

a) "What really caught my attention was when I looked into the making of it. First I need to explain that there are 8 primary holidays in witchcraft and Satanism. In the Illuminati they are known as the 8 nights of human sacrifice for obvious reasons.There are four major and four minor ones:
1) Candlemas or Imbolg--Feb. 1,2- major
2) Ostara- March 21 (Spring Equinox)-minor
3) Beltane or Roodmas - May 1 (founding day for the Illuminati in 1776)-major
4) Litha-- June 21 (summer solstice)-minor
5) Lughnasadh or Lammas- August 1-major
6) Mabon- September 21 (autumnal equinox)-minor
7) Samhain or Hallowe'en- October 29-31-major
8) Yule- December 21 (Winter solstice)-minor"

The writer has state that the releasing of the film coincides with the above dates. It may be true but why concern with this? Is he suggesting that the film is positively made for Satan? Is there Biblical truth in your prosecution? If that's the case, it is as good as matching technology as part of '666', as good as making superstition biblical.

The above points to the fact that one places too much faith in the prediction of his so called dates matching. It is true that it is too coincidental to believe, I also believe that Satan can do things 'miraculously' and the devil can make your 'wisdom' do his job.

Please do see that your comments hurt a lot of people. It is as close as accusing falsely and if put it in Jesus teachings, your plank in your eye is making you see a lot of things in a negative light.

We all know that this is a fiction story. The church can also mistakenly identity the wrong person as anti-christ which incidentally will reveal himself AFTER the rapture. So the church do not need the film to falsely accuse. We are already starting to falsely accuse people as of now. Do think about it.

b) Do not judge for you will be judged with the same measure.

The film has its pros and cons, its good and bad. Same as the books. So on what measure do we think that this film cannot be the vessal for God? On what standards do we judge so? This book has been greatly blessed. It has touched a lot of people who are 'Christians' in name and not in character and in Spirit. And of course it also touched those who are close to believe in Christ but needed that 'jab' to make them commit. In a sense, a great revival is at hand and the film media has become the tool to do just that.

It may, claims some, that the movie will scare people into accepting God. If one reveals what the ten commandments says and what God says about Sinning, it will surely scare people into following the ten commandments~! So what difference does it do when we are showing something physically that would happen to the Earth in the end times?

When we are going to be the salt of this earth, we have to be salty in good and bad sense. We must do it two ways, make known to people that sin leads to death (scare tactic? it is the TRUTH!), and that Jesus gives the hope to conquer sin and thus death (hope tactic? YOU BET~!). And so the book of revelation is doing just that. It is to show Christians what characteristics the church of today will become (reference to the seven churches of Asia). And what will happen to the world when the last generation that witnesses the birth of the new Israel (1945), is next to coming to past.

People. We are here to preach the bad news and the good news. And the movie is preaching the bad news. And we are going to preach the good news. Although the movie do not mention the word Jesus, it has ample time given to show where the answers of the disappearances is to be found. The Bible was shown throughout the time after the disappearance from Rayford's house to the Church and the pastor quoting from the Bible when Chloe was trying to discredit the Bible.

I saw postings that deals with the nitty gritty details of the quality of the movie and the books. Warranted that this forum is for the movie and the directing and maybe the whole movie should be and can be improved. Please note that the movie is not an all out rendition of what is going to happen in accordance to the Bible word for word. The movie is trying to present great multitude of people who are going to be left behind, their emotions and regrets and makes us reflect on who and what we want to be Spiritually and Emotionally.

Focus on what this movie is going to bring about a great revival for our Lord. Do not focus on where is this movie was made, when it is released, who are the actors and what are the consequences. The fact that the books has remained popular, the fact that shows that the movie is even made in the first place and the fact that the message is about pointing to something that is going to happen, SHOWS that God has blessed it.

So "Let those who are without sin, throw the first stone". Do not unwittingly discredit works that might be God's work. Do not falsely accuse.

If the movie is a failure, If the movie is a fake and preached the wrong things, God knows and God will provide a way. So place your faith in Him in this film project and earnestly pray for the salvation of souls following the opening of this movie which I think is more productively then to look at the movie in a spiritually negative way.

GREAT MESSAGE
Subject: Left Behind
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000
From: Vel Buford

My husband and I recently bought the movie "Left Behind". We also have purchased all 8 books of the Left Behind series that have been published so far. I believe they do have a great message to send out, to both Christians and non-Christians. My only regret with the movie is that it is not "closed caption". I am hearing impaired and have to use my closed caption on my television to "hear" (literally "read" every word that is said in a TV program or movie). With close to 4 million deaf and hearing impaired people in the United States alone, it is a shame we will not be able to watch this movie and read the dialog. Even though I had read the book, I was still not able to know exactly what was being said and by whom, as I watched the movie. Is it possible that it may be coming out with the closed caption at a later date? I would gladly repurchase it again if I knew I could get it in closed caption. Please help me pass this message on to the makers of the movie so they may consider adding the closed caption in the future.
Thank you, Vel Buford

QUESTIONS FOR CHRISTIANS
Subject: Comments on left behind, please omit my e-mail
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000
From: "Pastor Rob"

I have a question for the Christians that are opposed to this film:

1. Are you interested in telling people about the same Good News you have found?

What if you were without Christ in this day and age? Would you want "infighting" to prevent an opportunity for you to learn about the Christian message? Do I disagree with any of the movie? Yes, but I see a greater good than what I disagree with. I see people asking questions about The End of the World. Remember Y2K? People are concerned. They don't like the "unknown."

And these concerned people people are going to the movies; that's where they hang out! Most Christian outreach efforts do not have $17 million dollars to spend to get the message out. Here, we have a HUGE opportunity! People will ask questions. Christians will have opportunity to explain the scripture and share their faith.

Case in point: I have two people who come to my church who are not born-again. They watched the movie and immediately started calling Christian friends with loads of questions. As a result, we showed the film for our Wednesday Bible study group and taught what the scripture said afterward (they came to see it again). More people came to our Wednesday Bible Study than ever before! (we are a new church plant). You see, unbelievers don't know about the differences us Christians have with the movie. They know they are going to die one day, and they have questions.

If people who are not believers will come and get their appetite whetted for spiritual matters as a result of this movie, it is a good thing! My church believes this so much we voted (after seeing the first half of the film) to sponsor it in our city.

People need the Lord. If even one soul is saved as a result, wouldn't it be worth it? Are you worth $17 million?
-Rob Lamarre

LEFT BEHIND ON TV?
Subject: Left Behind
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000
From: "Santo

Hello, would know if the "Left Behind" movie is going to be released in theaters, or shown on tv, or is to be tape/dvd only? Also, will it be something that you critique?
Thank you ... Merry Christmas! Santo

Response: It is on VHS tape in stores everywhere and it will be in the theaters in Feb 2001.

WHY THE LEFT BEHIND MOVIE IS GOOD FOR AMERICA
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000
From: JOEL HORN

The Left Behind Movie is good for America for three good reasons. The first reason is Political. For the last couple of decades it should be known that Hollywood has systematically attacked people of religious faith, such as: Evangelical Christians, Catholics & Jews. These three groups may not agree with each other in terms of religious faith, but Hollywood lumps the three together as either crazy, evil or hypocritical, just because they have religious faith. This characterization, as described, was not always adopted, but in the movies of 1940s and 1950s, Hollywood adopted a more positive view of these three religious groups and that religious faith had a positive effect on society. Michael Medved, in his book, Hollywood vs. America, makes this very point and has a very convincing argument that if one looks at the movies Hollywood has made over the last couple of decades one can see that Hollywood has in fact had a unified and systematic attack against people of religious faith. So, when Kirk Cameron makes the plug, at the end of the Left Behind video, it is time to send a message to Hollywood, I believe that message could be: Hollywood, America does not believe that people of religious faith are automatically crazy, evil or hypocritical and an expression of religious faith in movies is not bad but good for America. So, if the Left Behind movie brings record sales at the box office it could send the political message that it is time for the entertainment industry to change and start making movies that reflect the moral landscape of Americans, that many Americans are religious and have religious faith, and movies with religious themes are OK for America. Of course, political attempts to change Hollywood will only go so far, and may prove to be futile. The point may be said, "People's hearts need to be changed, before political change will take place". A very good point, and that brings me to my second reason why the Left Behind movie is good for America.

The second reason is Spiritual. The Left Behind, is obviously an attempt to reach people's hearts. The movie is an attempt to help Americans see that God knows the future and knows what the end will be like, and has allowed us to know and be forewarned about some of the events of the end times. The basic plot of the movie is that there will be a time, as it has been prophesied that Jesus will, in a twinkling of an eye, gather His Church (those people who have put their trust in Jesus to forgive them of their sins and because they believe in His words and everything He has done they have given the leadership of their lives over to Him) together with Him in the clouds to be with Him forever (I Thessalonians 4:16-17). For those who are left behind, after the rapture takes place, it will be absolute, empirical evidence, if they read the prophecy in the Bible that God did what he said He was going to do, and now is the time to accept his Son, Jesus Christ as their personal Savior. The movie makes this point and goes on to explain that after the rapture there will be terrible times ahead. Those terrible times the movie alludes to can be supported by a careful reading and understanding of the book of Revelation, found in the Bible.

End time prophesy will always make for a great movie, if done well, however, does a sensational movie like this serve any spiritual purpose? I thought that this movie may do a great job at scaring people into the faith. A valid point, and that is not the only message we want people to hear, however, equally valid is the point, that if the Bible is true and the rapture will take place then don't you think God wants people to be forewarned and to come to faith in his Son before that event happens. If the book of Revelation is true, where the prophecies are literally fulfilled, and terrible times are ahead after the rapture takes place, then wouldn't it be important that people be forewarned and escape those terrible times.

I thought that we should only proclaim Jesus Christ and his salvation, and end time prophesy is not important in being a catalyst for bringing people to Christ. Another point can be made, if people do not believe in Christ, then why would you expect them to believe in his prophecies. In fact, this may be the perfect opportunity for people to think of the Church as a bunch of loony tune people, sitting on their roof tops waiting for Christ to take them up in the clouds. A valid point, and I believe we should always start with Jesus Christ first, and first show him as the fulfillment of prophesy, rather than getting off into all those prophecies that are yet to be fulfilled. However, for some Americans end time prophesy is a good starting point that can lead them into investigating Christ and his claims. For example, with the success of Hollywood's movies, Armageddon and Deep Impact, this may show that there is an interest and curiosity among Americans to know what the bible says about the end times. If the movie makes people think, who is to say that Americans who have seen it will not talk with their friends, co-workers, or even attend church to find out if this "rapture" stuff is true or not. Sometimes, controversial topics spark interest, and more interest in a topic, promotes more opportunity for people to talk with others about end times, Christ, may lead to conversations about Christ's message of saving grace.

One criticism, is that there was not enough gospel in the movie. It didn't explain the gospel point by point. It is OK, to have that point, but it is OK to see it in a different way. If this is truly a grass-roots movement, as Kirk Cameron says, which could be both politically and spiritually, then we don't have to rely on the movie screen to dump the whole load, but allow the movie to spark enough interest or controversy that encourages people to talk among themselves. The movie can allow bridges to be opened up, where the gospel can be presented in detail and better explained through a personal relationship between two people, than between a movie go-er and a non-personal movie screen. That is not to say, that this movie did not present the gospel, I think it did and did a good job, but for those who believe more should of been said, let's just remember if this is a grass-roots movement, we are the ones who can pick up from where the movie left off, and help people investigate the claims of Christ and through personal relationships gently guide people into the saving knowledge of Christ.

The third reason why the Left Behind movie is good for America is that it will become of Historical Record, on a national scene. Let's say the Bible is true, and the rapture will literally take place. Let's say we make this movie about the rapture, and it makes all time record sales at the box office. Let's say the Left Behind series, sells a lot of movie tickets, videos, and books. What has just happened in America? Well, the Left Behind Series, has just made of public record its witness of this future event, the rapture. Now, lets say the rapture takes place, just as the Bible says, and there are many Americans who are left behind and don't know what to do. Remember, what has been left behind? The Left Behind Series. The Left Behind Series would have been of public record. It would have been out there, in the general public in the form of books and movies for Americans to be reminded of and to see, and would be a catalyst for Americans to read the Bible to learn the rest of the story. No one is saying that the Left Behind Series is the Bible, and should be upheld on equal standing with the Bible, but it can serve as a powerful tool to make people think before and after the rapture about the truthfulness of the Bible and to investigate the claims of end time prophecy that is found in the Bible.

These are the three reason why I think the Left Behind movie is good for America.

Response: It is a low budget film. It is well done with good intentions. But, somehow I am disappointed. But, hey, it's the best independant Christian film I have seen in a long time. But don't place high expectations on it. -David

THE TRUTH PLEASE
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000
From: "James Whisler"

I noticed that the Left Behind phenomenon has given us a lot of merchandise. But is any of it useful. They have a Left Behind book series for adult and a separate one for kids. Left Behind Audio Books, Left Behind sound track, a video of 'The Making of Left Behind', the Left Behind movie itself and even T-shirts ( I'm sure there's more that I don't know about ). I watched the 'Left Behind' movie and I honestly don't think I heard them mention the name of Jesus once. There was not a real clear gospel message on how to repent and get saved. The verses that dispensationalists misinterpret, however were quoted and emphasized (Dan. 9:27, 1 Thess.4:16,17) they pumped their disinformation about a 'secret and quiet' pretrib rapture and a 7 year treaty initiated by the Antichrist. They announced before it began "stand by for an important message from Kirk Cameron after the movie". I thought he might give a testimony or at least an invitation to accept Christ. He didn't. All he did was promote the movie-- asking for people to take their friends to the theaters when it debuts. So that maybe it will make it big and Hollywood would notice and want to get into the business of making more Christian films like it. That reminded me of the recent Carman flyer I received asking me to buy his latest CD so it would outsell any secular artist and Christians would 'take over the music industry for Jesus'--oh o.k. as long as it's for Jesus. Give me a break. Then at the end they showed a video with a group singing about that ever important pretrib rapture. It made me sick. Money changers in the temple--but the body of Christ is now the temple of God (1 Cor. 3:16-17), and these moneychangers need rooted out of our lives. Remember, Jesus kicked out those who SOLD and BOUGHT from the temple ( Matthew 21:12, Mark 11:15). While there are so many Christian merchandise junkies buying worthless 'Left Behind' propaganda that is far from being Biblically accurate, there are people going to bed without enough food each night or hand copying Bibles because they can't afford one. And what's that verse about rebellious people telling the prophets "Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:" Isaiah 30:10. The apostasizing church out of fear and insecurity loves the Left Behind books and movie because they reinforce their comfortable beliefs. LaHaye can't teach anything smoother than a pretrib rapture.

The makers have issued the order that churches are not allowed to show the video to their congregations. The video is for 'private inhome use only'. In other words, they want everybody to buy a copy of it. After all, they need to make back that 17 million dollars, don't they? What kingdom are they investing in? Not the Kingdom of God. ( see Matt.6:24-34). After watching this movie, I had a hard time seeing 17 million spent on it. I think someone embezzled 16 million of the movie's finances.

What really caught my attention was when I looked into the making of it. First I need to explain that there are 8 primary holidays in witchcraft and Satanism. In the Illuminati they are known as the 8 nights of human sacrifice for obvious reasons.There are four major and four minor ones:
1) Candlemas or Imbolg--Feb. 1,2- major
2) Ostara- March 21 (Spring Equinox)-minor
3) Beltane or Roodmas - May 1 (founding day for the Illuminati in 1776)-major
4) Litha-- June 21 (summer solstice)-minor
5) Lughnasadh or Lammas- August 1-major
6) Mabon- September 21 (autumnal equinox)-minor
7) Samhain or Hallowe'en- October 29-31-major
8) Yule- December 21 (Winter solstice)-minor

Luciferians seek Satanic blessings by not only performing their jobs in their sacred locations where they believe there is occultic power ( this is why LaHaye was set up in Washington D.C. and the Dallas area while cowriting the LB series) (see http://www.cuttingedge.org/n1040.html) but also seek Satanic blessings by initiating their projects on their Satanic holy days.

On May 1, 2000 Beltane (major holiday)- they began production on the movie 'Left Behind' 13 weeks later on August 1, Lughnasadh (major holiday)-they released the 'making of Left Behind' for sale. 13 weeks later on October 31, Samhain (major holiday)- they released the 'Left Behind' movie for sale 13 weeks from that date on Feb.2,2001-Candlemas (major holiday)- they are releasing 'Left Behind' into the theaters across the country. (see these dates on http://www.upcomingmovies.com/leftbehind.html

The odds of them hitting any 4 Satanic holidays, much less the 4 MAJOR ones by coincidence is astronomical. I have a better chance of winning the New York State Lottery without a ticket. They are seeking Satanic blessings --all they are teaching is false doctrine to cause the church to apostasize and identify the wrong man as the antichrist and consequently identify the wrong man as Christ.

You can read more about these false prophets in my articles 'The Mystics, the Masons and Dallas Theological Seminary' and 'Bill Clinton the Decoy Antichrist'.
http://home.beseen.com/belief/jamesers/index.html I will be awful surprised if you post my comments.
James Whisler

WONDERFUL JOB
Subject: to the actors of the left behind movie.
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000
From: shelia

I would just like to say that all the actors done a wonderful job in the movie and thank you for making a movie that's worth watching. I would have to say the two actors I most enjoyed were Kirk Cameron and Brad Johnson. They done fantastic. You never expect to see an actor you grew up watching on a network tv show to play in Christian film.To all the actors keep up the good work, and continue in the path of making enjoyable wholesome films families can sit together and watch.Is there any way we can e-mail the actors personally on this website?

HAVE YOU SEEN IT?
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000
From: Chris M Perez

Hi Bruce! Have you heard about (or seen) the new film "Left Behind," recently released on video? The movie is based on the first book in the very popular "Left Behind" series by author Tim LaHaye. The film stars Kirk Cameron (from "Growing Pains") as reporter Cameron Williams (a.k.a Buck) covering a story about the chaos in Israel. Suddenly, the rapture of the Church hits, and Buck is not only caught up in Israel's chaos-- but the world's. All through the film, Buck gathers bits and pieces of informatiion about the Lord, and about the anti-Christ-- and how it was prophicized in scripture that he would come. He sits in on a meeting conducted by Nicoloae (the Anti-Christ) and learns of how he plans to take over the world's food supply. Now, he must warn everybody he can that Nicolae is not on their side-- he's not at all what he appears...... Maybe you've seen it; but if you haven't-- do it! It's excellent! The film has been released on video now, and is due to come out in theaters in February 2001. I'm excited about getting the word out! Wouldn't it be wonderful if this movie gets the same response as "Titanic" when it hits theaters? Who knows-- the book series is so popular, maybe it will!
Christina Shelley, CA

Comments continued

Review Page 1
Comments Page 2
Comments Page 3
Comments Page 4
<You are here.
Comments Page 5

OFFICIAL SITE
Left Behind © 2000 Cloud Ten Pictures. All Rights Reserved.