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NUCLEAR WAR IS NOT AN EVIL
Subject: say what?
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000
From: Lestatk

Gojira is nothing more than a representation of Nuclear War and the horrors it causes. The idea was chosen while Tanaka was in an airplane over the Pacific after he heard about a Japanese fishing boat that was inside the danger zone at Bikini Atoll (I think) when the US tested one of our bombs. Why do you think the original movie, in fact, just about every one of them, starts out with a fishing boat being "attacked" and the men killed/wounded by radioactivity. Every single one of the movies always has some comment in the end about how "We brought this on ourselves with our horrible flirtations with nuclear energy" I just don't see Satan or evil in there. Godzilla is nothing more than a constant, persistent reminder of the major mess-ups man has done when playing around with nature. Talk about trying to twist something into something for which it is not. (Go figure that one.)
Kris -Gojira fan for 25 years.

Response: I agree with your history. But, I fail to see however how you feel that Godzilla is not a represetative of a terrible EVIL thing known as Nuclear War. Satan means "adversary." War is filled with adversaries.

LEVIATHAN?
Subject: I Like Godzilla
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000
From: Asil

Is Godzilla The Leviathan?

Response: No, but he falls into that catagory of mythology. -David

THE GODZILLA CONTROVERSY
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000
From: Jahdrums

I have read most of the reviews about this topic. People ask simple questions or make statements like " Godzilla is a figure of Satan ..an evil serpent.", "The Japanese created Godzilla as a symbol of America's nuclear attack and Japan's hard times after the bomb." and many others.

Godzilla is, in a way, an evil serpent kind of like that of Satan. But at the same time fans see him as a big ol' lizard of destruction and entertainment. If you have seen most of the Godzilla movies as I have, you would see that he can be both an evil force to be dealt with and also a hero to the people of Toyko and the entire world.

In the Bible, Satan is mentioned as a snake (serpent). This has led many people to believe that all snakes (and sometimes other reptiles) are demonic. So when we see Godzilla, a huge dragon like creature, we can seem him as being evil and Satan-like.

To me, Godzilla is not a sign of the of the devil, but the sign of evil in man's own heart. If the Japanese made him as the symbol of the atomic bomb incident that took place during World War II then it is man who Godzilla's darkness represents. Man is what created the atomic bomb, not Satan.

I'm not saying that people shouldn't watch him or if you're a Christian then you shouldn't be fan of him. I just wrote this to help clear up some mass confusion going around. I'm a 16 year old guy and both a Godzilla fan and a Christian just like everyone else that has been to this site and has posted something.
See you all later, peace.

ABOUT OKINAWA
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000
From: Joe

I lived there between 1974-1977 (my stepdad was in the Army), and I was able to amass quite a collection of monster and anime toys (the mid-1970's, in case you didn't know, was the era of Space Cruiser Yamato - what is called Star Blazers over here - and the classic giant-fighting-mecha anime shows, which I could never get enough of!) And I also was able to see one of the Ultraman series in the original Japanese. Japanese TV, in fact, is worth a whole site...what I could tell you about the things I saw that made my eyes pop out, stuff that you would NEVER have seen on American TV in that era...but I digress... Anyway, your correspondent was quite right, IMO, about Godzilla and his monstrous fellows being a metaphor for the American occupation of Japan.

When I arrived on Okinawa in 1974, it had only been two years since the island had been returned to Japanese governance, and American occupation road signs were still standing on some of the highways. For that matter, on Okinawa, unlike in the rest of Japan, people drove on the *righthand* side of the road. And the island, especially the central portion, was literally crammed with American bases. I could ride my bike from installation to installation (we lived on Camp Kuwae, just about a mile south of the big Kadena Air Base) almost without leaving territory controlled by the US military. Naturally, all this was (and is) resented by quite a few Okinawans. Here's something that you will find really funny; although the US had occupied Okinawa for almost thirty years, when I arrived on the island, there still wasn't one single solitary McDonald's on the island. I kid you not. Mickey D's didn't arrive until, I think, late 1975 or early 1976; the first stand on the island opened up next to the local Episcopal church which we attended (for the historical record, I'm a communicant of the Japanese Episcopal Church, not the US Episcopal Church, as I was confirmed on Okinawa) and, naturally, became an immediate lodestone for the American community. They *did* have a Shakey's Pizza Parlor on-island before that, though.
-Joe- (jadmire@monumental.com)

LOOK AT FDR'S LEGS
Subject: You may or may not have noticed this
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000
From: Joe Admire

In that WWII Japanese cartoon you republished (and kudos to you, by the way, for finding that particular connection which I never knew about before) look closely at the demon-FDR's legs. Don't they look awfully like the gams of the Big G? (Amusingly enough, pre-war, a lot of Americans - especially Republicans!!! - might have agreed with that depiction of Roosevelt. He was reviled more than any president before Clinton.)
-Joe- (jadmire@monumental.com)

EMBODIMENT OF GOD AND SATAN
Subject: Who put the "GOD" in the zilla?
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000
From: Brendan

Now listen here, its that the element of the Monster zilla is also a representation of the dominator god that we Christians FEAR so. The wrath of hellfire etc. The concept of zilla is that the conceptions of the west in their God fearing ways provoke Satan, the total denial of corruption and evil is the embodiment of Satan, We give Satan all our power this way We did blow them to hell after all. Godzilla is the embodiment of God and Satan a byproduct of the efforts of domination. Power out of control in a effort to survive, everyone's fear trying to kill him when he's just cruzing the local strip looking for some grub.To read good and evil into the essence of the zilla is fit, just like each and everyone of us he lives, fear the dominator God or be responsible for our actions, we aint 400 feet tall and we have to answer to ourselves and ultimately GOD.

NOT THE BEAST FROM HELL
Subject: GOJ-ira
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000
From: Nick

yo man.my name is nick and i am 14.listen, i am a christian,and i also follow the g-films, and there are a few points that you left out man. godzilla is just the american way of saying, gojira.and i dont believe that goj, is the japanese word for god.and even if it is, if the japs meant that big lizard to be a demon..thing, than they would have!!! godzilla was not a beast sent fom hell. he was a radioactively awaken dinosaur. and also notice, that all strange things in all of the godzilla movies (dispite the beliefs of like, villagers) are scientifically explained. i mean, some people in the movies worship these animals, but some people in real life worship cows.so, i think if there was some kinda connection, it would have been made more obvious simply for entertainment value. well,u can post my adress on your site man. thanx for your time dave!
nick

Response: And thank you Nick. You are right about GOJ-ira not meaning GOD in Japanese. I hope I did not give that impression. In my thinking, however, "Radioactivity" = hell. "Big Lizard" = the great dragon of myth. My thinking is much more mythical and less concrete than your thinking is.

CHRISTIAN G FAN
Subject: Godzilla Rules!
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000
From: A concerned G-fan

I am a christian and i am a G fan. Also a question for "the top crusader", where did you find the 3 newer movies? Crusader, I also wanna say that Gozilla vs. Smog Monster has been in the U.S. since like 94'. I have been a huge Godzilla fan since i was 6 and I am 11 now. I plan on collecting all the godzilla movies. I already have like 15.
Sincerely, A concerned G-fan

GHIDORAH VS GODZILLA AS THE DEMON MONSTER
Subject: hhhhmmmm
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000
From: Monster

godzilla and christianity, huh? not the most likely pairing in the world. well as an atheist, i don't neccessarily agree w/ your views and theories, but you are obviously well read and this site is interesting. my comment though is that wouldn't ghidorah follow the lines of the demon god more than godzilla? i mean he more closely resembles the dragon of japanese lore and is a creature of sheer evil and destruction. just a thought.

Response: All myths have a certain evolution in their various cultures. Godzilla begins as a destructive monster and evolves in latter films to a friend of children and a defender of good things, he moves from demonic to almost angelic. Even Mickey Mouse in American culture begins as a rascal and evolves to bland good guy who settles down to host a TV show. Ghidorah, the three headed monster, is more consistant as a demon god than is Godzilla, I agree.

INTERESTING
Subject: the baddest lizard of all
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000
From: Chip

Your observations between scripture / the mushroom cloud / toho films are interesting. Godzilla does seem to resemble the radioactive threat personified. The movies are fun to watch, too. The kid earlier, by the way, who said Godzilla needs to wipe out humanity? It's called masturbation, son...look into it.

DEATH TO HUMANS SAYS TEEN ATHEIST
Subject: Godzilla is indestructible!
Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000
From: Xan

Godzilla is indestructible. He can never be beaten. His body parts can regenerate and if he was real mankind would cease to exist. We need something that can show man that he isn't indestructible. If man keeps on doing things how we do them then we will destroy ourselves. I believe that man doesn't deserve to live. I believe animals are better and I believe that Dinosaurs should not have died because they were the perfect creatures. Better than man and could destroy us if we didn't rely on weapons and use what we was born with not guns or knives. I have loved Godzilla since I was 4 and I am 17 I just believe that if he was real we would all die. It would do all other life a favor for us to be destroyed. Mankind doesn't deserve this planet. Oh and if ya was wondering I am Atheist I don't worry myself with things like God or Satan ever since I became that my have has been so much better. When I was 4 I believed that Godzilla was real only because Japan is real and those Islands are real and most everything else is real. But my point is, is that humans suck and i wish Godzilla was real to wipe us out so the world would be a better place. Xan

Response: You are the ultimate Godzilla fan. I feel anger and sadness in your words. I think it is humanity that you lost belief in, rather than God. -David

THE MOST STUPIDEST THING I HEARD
Subject: This makes me not want to watch Gojira anymore
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000
From: TWOLIBRAS

Comparing a Japanese rubber suit monster movie to the Bible is absolutely the most stupidest thing that I have ever heard. Besides everyone knows that the Real King of Monsters is the one and only GAMERA. Given the chance and financial backing, it would quickly replace the Toho Taco Bell Lizard as the "biggest" star in Nipping and abroad.

ENORMOUS TATTOOS
Subject: God?zilla
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000
From: Mecha Big Wig

Alot of these folks seem to get all ruffled about big G coming up on a religious sight. I've been to the conventions. Some of these people have enormous tattoos of Godzilla. All of them are there because Godzilla evokes a particular response in their psyche. I'm one of them, and I don't profess to be any bible thumper. But even I realize that there is something deeper than just a film character that we have in common. Could it be....Satan!? I don't think so.

YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN
Subject: Are you people insane?
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000
From: Joe

Hello, i've been a godzilla fan since i was at least 5 and i'm now 16 and the way you think of Godzilla being a "demon god" is , to me, somewhat saying you think any form of monster is evil. Even though godzilla does destroy a city or two doesn't mean he is the devil or something like that. You should be more aware of the japanese creativity and see what godzilla is really for. Godzilla is entertainment, not some stereo-typical stuff like him being the serpent of death. If you criticize the way people act because of what it looks like, your not a real christian at all.

COOLEST
Subject: Godzilla Rocks Japan!!!
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000
From: Greg

I think that godzilla is the coolest monster movie ever made My presonal favoret is Godzilla v.s. Mechagodzilla. -Greg

GET A LIFE DAVID, YOU STUPID RELIGIOUS ZEALOT!
Subject: Oh please
Date: Tue, 9 May 2000
From: "George Root"

Anyone that would link Godzilla to any biblical significance are the same people that believe that Lee Harvey Oswald fired 4 shots into President Kennedy within 7 seconds from 3 different directions by himself from an angle that no bullet ever came from. Get a life. Godzilla is not myth, not folklore, he was nothing until Tanaka created him in the early 1950's. Tanaka wasn't even a Christian. It is just like religious zealots to take something that was meant as pure entertainment and twist it into something totally "evil". I have been a Godzilla fan since I was 4 years old and I have never had it interfere with any beliefs system I may have. Can't you people focus on the real "evils" of the world like famine, disease, murder, rape, war, and things that really need a good shot of morality and religion? The "God" in Godzilla is purely coincedental and a creation of the America publicists that released the movie in the states in the 1950's. They didn't think that Gojira would catch on as a name so they came up with what sounded like the closest thing. I own all of the Japanese versions of the Godzilla movies and he is called Gojira in every one of them. So get off it and try to accomplish some real good in the world instead of trying to convice some mother in Texas that she needs to sit down and explain Godzilla to her son. Watch the friggin' movies. If you don't want your kid to see that kind of violence and destruction then don't let them watch. But PLEASE don't be so ignorant as to try and attach a biblical explaination to a character created only 50 years ago.
Thanks, George Root

Response: Hmm, lets see, a dragon has no spiritual significance in Asain culture? Really? Tanaka acted apart from his own culture and there is no common connecting link to the dragon/serpent that appears in all the major religions and culture myths? Interesting? I suggest you read Joseph Cambell. Or, any Asain mythology book. And by the way Godzilla is a symbol of the incredible evil of war, disease and famine that happened to Japan vis the Atomic Bomb. 'God'-zilla is a coincedence, but it sure rings true with the Asian belief that Godzilla is a demon-god. -DAVID

GODZILLA GOJIRA
Subject: Gojir
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000
From: Lectrodz

Godzilla Gojira The most powerful metaphor for the tenacity of life ever manifested on celluloid. Gojira is forever...it is not Satan nor God but the eternal cycle which exists between the duality of good and evil. Godzilla---Amen.

ALL MONSTERS ARE DEMON GODS
Subject: Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000
From: TXMom

Hi, I am new to this site and am not sure what kind of point (good or bad) your review of Godzilla was making because. The site never fully loaded. My son was a great Godzilla fan so we purchased the "The Godzilla Official Compendiam" and read it throughly. As a christian, my son (age 8) decided it was not a good idea for him to collect and support the Godzilla Movement because as the book clearly states "all monsters are actually Demon gods". I know there are many different views on how such things effect our christian walk but I would encourage you to futher research how God views our choices of what we watch and support. I look forward to spending more time reading your site in the future.
Because of God's grace, TXMom

Response: I best thing to do with your son is to teach him how to view, not what not to view. Give him tools. This is what HJ does. Teach him the meaning of Godzilla, rather than dismissing it as "all monsters are actually Demon gods."

LAST 3 GODZILLAS ON TAPE
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000
From: "borders"

Good news to all you people who want the last three G-movies released in america: THEY ARE!!! I bought all three in October 1999. All three! Thats Mechagodzilla II, SpaceGodzilla, and Destroyer (he is called Destroyer in the american version, not Destroyah). So to all you who want them, start searchin', 'cause there here!

MECHAGODZILLA
Subject: MECHAGODZILLA II AND SMOG MONSTER REVEILED!!!!!
Original_Godzilla
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000
From: THE TOP CRUSADER

I just want to say how great it is for there to be a Christian Godzilla sight! Do you know if this Godzilla 2000 is part of the ongoing series, or a re-boot? How about GODZILLA VS LEVIATHAN? God bless!

I've been a fan since I was 3... now I'm almost 18, and still love Godzilla! As a Christian, I really appreciate this sight. However, someone previously commented that MECHAGODZILLA II and THE SMOG MONSTER have never been released in US on video. Yes they have. Every film up to DESTROYAH in 1995 has been released here. I have them all...but some took some looking to find.
God Bless!

GODZILLA STBOL OF THE OCCUPATION
Subject: Godzilla as a metaphor for the U.S. Military Occupation of Japan
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000
From: "Bob Mozark"

Rather than the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki Godzilla (and in fact almost all of the Japanese monsters) is a metaphor for the U.S. military occupation of Japan. The reason that it is the military occupation rather than the atomic bombing is subtle, but nonetheless important. The atomic bombings were over in an brief instant, and had only localized physical effect. The U.S. military occupation on the other hand has allowed "barbarians" free reign over the past 55 years to roam over the entire Japanese landscape and introduced uncontrolled Western cultural influences (compared to the strictly regulated inroads prior to 1945 where the Japanese authorities could pick and choose which changes they wanted to make and which they wanted to keep at bay). Up to 25% of parts of Japan, such as Okinawa, were turned over to the United States for bases and bomb and artillery ranges. When the monster invades Japan the powerlessness of the Japanese military and civilian authorities to protect its people and property are amply demonstrated. Just as criminal abuses by miscreant individual members of the U.S. military could not be prevented, only dealt with in the aftermath. And for a long time (especially in the 1950s when the original Godzilla was first filmed) the Status of Forces Agreement exempted U.S. military personnel from the Japanese legal system. Crimes that they committed on Japanese soil against Japanese persons or property were dealt with according to the American legal system. Usually in the end Godzilla or the monsters choose to depart Japan for its their own reasons, but they can clearly return anytime that they choose to do so. Just as the U.S. military could choose to leave and -- should there (God forbid) be another war -- choose to return without the Japanese military being able to do much about it. So the symbolism of Godzilla or King Kong invading New York is just not the same to the American people. With the sole and miniscule exception of Pancho Villa, the United States has been free of fear of foreign invasion since the War of 1812. While the Japanese people still deal with (symbolic) monstrous intruders on a daily basis.
Bob Mozark

Response: Thanks Bob. I really enjoyed your insight.

GODZILLA RULES
Subject: 2000 millenium
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000
From: Greear

I think that Godzilla rules! I am one of the biggest Godzilla fans. Hi, my name is Christian F. Greear. I am a christian. I was a Godzilla fan since I was 7 and now I am 13. Can You e-mail me a picture of the first guy in the Godzilla suit? Isn't it cool how Godzilla has near 8,888 scales on his body and no 2 are alike?
From Christian F. Greear

Response:Amazing. -David.

GODILLA RULES
Subject: King Of The Monsters
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000
From: career

This is the best monster movie ever made! The Japanese sure know how to make them!!!
The terror of black and white is high in this movie,Godzilla looked very awesome with the evil look and jagged spines. Truly they don't make 'em like this anymore.

LEVIATHAN AND GODZILLA
Subject: godzilla not the devil but....the leviathan
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000
From: GJ

I like how you depicted godzilla on this page but i think he relates more to a creature in the Bible called "the leviathan" strong hide spikes fire breath spears and swords couldn't peirce him almost indestructable just as Godzilla! Almost as if godzilla really existed. you can check this out in the Bible on Job. 41.

My response: Read it many times. You are right. However the Bible links this symbolic mythical creature to Satan. Check it out here (click).

GODZILLA FEST 2000
Subject: News!!!
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000
From: Armand Vaquer, Press Chairman G-Fest 2000

Godzilla fans from around the world will be attending G-Fest 2000 at the Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel July 14-16, 2000. See the G-Fest website (www.g-fan.com) for more information. Appearances by Koichi Kawakita, special effects director of Godzilla films of the '90s and Haruo Nakajima, the man in Godzilla's suit from 1954 to 1972 will highlight the convention. A Godzilla marathon is planned for the Egyptian Theatre during the convention. Plan now to attend!! Please advise everyone to mark their calendars. Thanks.

Armand Vaquer, Press Chairman
G-Fest 2000

LONG LIVE THE KING
July 8, 1999. I think this is the best monster movie I have ever seen. It had a good story line and great characters. Godzilla is the best movie monster to ever walk the big screen, long live the king!–James

MEGAGODZILLA II V.S THE SMOG MONSTER
April 15, 1999. I would like to see mechagodzilla II and the smog monster to be released into the U.S. I would like to know how to get a hold of Tristar or Sony entertainment to find out if they will help to release the two movies that have not been put on video. thanks G-fan

HOPING FOR SEQUEL
March 30, 1999. Godzilla I think should be in other movies its sad how he dies. Now that thier is baby Godzilla they need to give him movies -Matt

From George Hill in Ontario Canada: Here are my comments.The ORIGINAL Godzilla is the best one I've ever seen. It scared the crap out of me when I was a child and had seen it for the first time, and I still get a thrill out of it when I see it!!! May the Godzilla movies NEVER die out!!!

From unknown: I like Gojira a lot I wait and pray for the day the last three japanese movies to bereleased in America in English

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