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I HAD A LOT OF FUN
Subject: A Knight's Tale
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001
From: Don

I had a lot of fun, foremost, going to see "A Knight's Tale" with my wife this past weekend. The soundtrack was a plus (I'm a fan of 70's era rock), but the story was very well put together. I saw some interesting themes woven into the story.

The main character, William Thatcher, appeared to be a Christ-figure. He has his disciples (the squires), including a woman (like Mary M.), and his mission throughout the movie is to subvert societal norms. He is born common to a thatcher's family (Jesus was born into a carpenter's family -- the Greek word translated as "carpenter" is also translated as "laborer") and feels a calling to something greater.

As you say in your review, the Chaucer character is akin to John the Baptist heralding the coming of the hero and savior. In "A Knight's Tale" we see William taking compassion on Chaucer, sacrificing his own gain to help someone caught in the grip of his own vices. It's with that compassion that Chaucer rises above that and is able to get it together.

What really struck me about the likeness to Christ was the end of the movie when he is arrested. Presented with the option to run for it, William sticks with his determination to see the whole thing through. He is arrested, and we find him languishing in jail with a beam tied across his shoulders (like a cross). He is beaten and abused by his enemy, yet he takes it all quietly.

The ending joust, when William faces his enemy for the final time, another parallel is how he is pierced, then how he charges to battle with no armor. The enemy is utterly defeated by a commoner who has his strength in spirit, not flesh.

As I said, this was a very fun movie to watch, but I would easily recommend it for a great discussion starter.

GREAT FLICK
Subject: Great Flick! A_Knights_Tale
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001
From: Trey Harris New Orleans, LA

I may be really sheltered here, but this was a great movie! Funny and poignant at the same time, the music was surprisingly refreshing. The characters were portrayed well, by the actors and not over-done. Lots of stuff to preach in this one! One of the best scenes in the movie was William's return home.
Peace and Grace,
Trey Harris New Orleans, LA

ON BEING A PERSON...
Subject: Big_Kahuna
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001
From: Ethan efro21@icqmail.com

This movie has much to say about the conversation of a "salesman" versus conversation between "people." And I think that this movie rightfully accuses many evangelists of being salesmen. The difference, I feel, is between preaching with a purpose and preaching out of love. The young Baptist preaches because Jesus is important to him; rather, he should preach because the person is important to him. As Phil suggested, "Ask them how their kids are, and ask simply because you care." Because character, in this movie, can be measured by the extent of one's interest in others.
Ethan efro21@icqmail.com

RIPPIN OFF LOST CHILDREN?
Subject: Ripping Off Lost Children? Dark_City
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001
From: ML

This is a great site you have; I always stop by to read your commentary on the latest movies. Anyway, about DARK CITY: I don't know where the earlier poster heard that DC is widely believed to be a rip-off of CITY OF LOST CHILDREN, but that was certainly the first time I'd heard it, and I've read about a billion reviews/internet posts on DARK CITY. COLC is often cited as an *influence*, along with a pile of other films, but the two movies aren't similar enough to justify the term "rip-off". I don't think so, having seen them both, and to name just one other example, neither did Roger Ebert, who gave COLC a moderately positive review in 1995 and then went bonkers over DC in 1998, calling it the best picture of the year. I might not go that far, but I object to its being called a rip-off.
ML

RESPONSE TO NEWSLETTER 25

THERE IS A DANGER
Subject: Newsletter_25
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001
From: Thomas Peck

Why do Christians have such negative knee jerk reactions to the culture. Why can't we seem to build bridges. Why are we so hesitant to give credit when it is due? Why can't Christians admit to common ground with unbelievers?

There is a great danger that our faith and our walk with Christ can be co-opted by the culture. We are warned in a number of verses (Jn.15:19 Rom.12:2 Col.3:2,5) about where we put our focus and our energies. The issue is not the culture, but what is the effect on you and your walk with Christ, your conforming yourself to Him, your obedience to Him. So much in the culture will pull you away from Christ, that it is important to be discerning about what we put in our eyes and our minds and our hearts. Some may be able to not be effected by the sin promoted in the culture, but, given our sinful nature, it is often like an alcoholic hanging around in a bar...sooner or later you will fall. Yes, we have common ground with unbelievers...we are all sinners, but that does not mean we should take on the ways of the sinner in order to better 'relate' to the sinner. What we do need to do is practice more of the love defined in 1 Corinthians 13 and Romans 12, while still living a life that honors Christ.

Response: Well that was about as clear as mud. There are 3 basic views:
1. Christ in culture,
2. Christ beside (against) culture,
3. Christ above (uninvolved with) culture.

I go with number 1.
You seem to go with 2.
I am a "Go Ye into all the world" kind a guy that leans heavily on the pagan altar to the Unknown God of Acts 17:16-34. For me number 2 sounds too much like a hermit (unevangelical). I am indeed the recovering alcoholic hanging in the bar helping others. I resonate with Paul hangin with godless Gentiles, and with Jesus hangin with harlots and sinners? I like my fingernails dirty. I also like scars and blisters. Thank you for your point of view. It was refreshingly different than mine. -David

BOOMERS STEP ASIDE
Subject: Newsletter_25
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001
From: "Don Dawson"

An interesting look at our seminaries across the nation shows some relevant info: http://www.zondervanchurchsource.com/brfng.htm

Also, I am a member of the Presbyterian Church (USA) and am a Gen Xer, and I was disappointed (yet not surprised) to read earlier this year that only 4% of the pastors in my denomination are under the age of 40. My wife is one of them, and she found that her calling is in campus ministry, not in a traditional parish.

We are still active in a regular congregation, but it is very evident that our needs and the needs of other Gen Xers are not top priority. It's funny, but I hear more complaining about how no college-age people come to our church from the people who are most against changing the status quo.

I wonder how the rest of the Protestant Church is doing. With stats like that, it's hardly surprising that it's difficult to find many Gen Xers in church.

The times are changing, and you're on the right track. The Barna Group (www.barna.org) just published results yesterday of a study on Internet use in spiritual pursuits, and it is looking like more and more people will be looking to the web for their spiritual nourishment.

Don Dawson rocketsrus@netzero.net
Webmaster for http://palmbay.presbychurch.net

Response: Thank you for the stats. It is a true thing, we have failed to reach Gen X. I heard a report the other day on National Public Radio that suggested that the Mormons could outnumber the Evangelicals within the next 40 years. Per Capita American Church attendance is no greater now than it was in 1940. The Evangelical Church has a problem. -A major problem. I think the Builders and Boomer are at the heart of it. And, I also blame the church for making Family Values, and Republican Politics etc. it's goal rather than Jesus. Something has gone terribly wrong. Outsiders, Outcasts, Familyless, Goth, Rappers, Homeless, Gen X need not apply. You are not truly welcome in most churches. -David

KNEE JERK REACTIONS
Subject: Newsletter_25
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001
From: Momx4

i think part of it is that we don't see that part of the truth when it is portrayed can get people talking and asking questions. we feel like if the whole gospel message isn't portrayed in its entirety, including the altar call, then we haven't done our job. this has only been a recent discovery for me and it has really freed up how i express my faith. i am much more ready to hear the truth of what people are saying and encourage them in that hoping for continuation of the conversation later and trusting that God can continue to work in their lives. films and books can be great conversation starters for this and not everyone will go see a blatantly christian film right away in a relationship. we need to remember that all truth is God's truth no matter whose mouth it comes out of.

Response: Some one recently wrote, "I'd rather have R-rated truth than G-rated lies." Thank you for your contribution. I like how you think, you are on the right track. -David

GEN X PASTOR SPEAKS
Subject: Newsletter_25
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:49:12 EDT
From: Rev. Chad Irving

David,
Thank you for Hollywood Jesus, I enjoy it very much. I am a Gen Xer and an Associate Pastor. I believe your comments regarding the Boomers are by and large true, although I have had a Boomers in my life who have done exactly what you're asking them to do for me. Nevertheless, most have been the type that you have described. Most of my Christian life I have felt the need to be apologetic about my "love" for the media, i.e. movies, television, and radio. Only recently have I truly come to understand how much value there is as a Christian to be current on these things. I like to watch t.v. and movies, and I am finding it is more of a help then a hindrance in my ministry. I've found that people in my church enjoy my sermon illustrations from t.v. and movies. People can relate, because they enjoy the media, too. Anyway, I appreciate what you do and wanted to respond.
God bless.
Rev. Chad Irving

Response: I am glad you know a few enlightened Boomers. Good help is hard to come by these days. The Boomer detest of the media is typical. They are in the linear world and have little concept of what being postmodern is all about. Sadly, they do not even want to know.

PASSING THE BATON TO GEN X
Subject: Newsletter_25
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001
From: Sue Sailhamer

David:
Your apology to Gen X was interesting. The worship style problem exists in most large churches. Here is one way to see it:

Worship is the language of the church. And we are now like Babel--we speak different languages. Don't confuse traditions with traditionalism. (traditionalism, the dead faith of the living; tradition, the living faith of the dead).

Tradition is faith that has been handed down through the ages. There is much we can learn from the saints who went before us. Have you read the stories behind the writing of great hymns of faith? Amazing Grace, It Is Well With My Sould, Children of the Heavenly Father, etc. These and many other hymns are testimonies to God's sustaining grace amidst great adversity. They have withstood the test of time far more than contemporary choruses of late or Gen X tunes.

The music/style problem is much more than personal or generational preference. It is a great divide that needs a bridge. We need to bring people together, not separate them in contemporary or traditional compartments, gen X or boomer. The Gen Xers have more to learn from the Boomers than vice versa. That's always the way it goes. And the Boomers have much to learn from "The Greatest Generation. " We need to keep the conversation going between generations.

With this in mind, the only style of worhip that makes sense is a blend that includes the entire spectrum. If you want to see this at work, visit the First Evangelical Free Church of Fullerton. We don't have it perfected, but we are trying.
Sue Sailhamer

Response: Thank you Sue. And you are right. Multigeneration community is what the kingdom is about. And indeed, we learn from each other. "Amazing Grace" will always be with us. I would like to hear how Gen X would perform it. I am tired of the Boomer monopoly on doing these great traditions in their fashion. The problem as I see it is that Gen X and Gen Y have been excluded from participation in Boomer worship services. I am glad you church is open to Gen X and Y. -David

100 BEST MOVIES
Subject: Newsletter_25
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001
From: Janet

How about "Shadowlands"., my favorite.
Janet Renfro jkrenfro@wans.net

Response: You are right. How about Shadowlands? There are so many that I left out. I really just limited myseld to 100. -David

BABY BOOMER/GEN X
Subject: Newsletter_25
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001

From: Trey Harris

Dear Dave,
I loved your comments concerning Boomers and worship styles. Unfortunately most main-line churches have not even experienced "contemporary" worship yet, much less Gen-X. Most of the control in these churches is still with the Builders of WWII. I am a United Methodist Pastor and can think of only one or two churches in our entire conference (Louisiana) that are doing relevant worship to reach Gen-X. I am told that we need to also concentrate on the generation behind Gen-X, the Millennials. Seems we are two or three generations behind and wonder why we still loose members each year. I wonder if we will ever get it?
Peace and Grace,
Trey Harris
New Orleans, LA

Response: Yes, lets hear it for the Millennials! You are right, the church is behind. One wonders why it still exists! It has one important saving grace, and that is GOD! -David

THE PASTOR
Subject:
Newsletter_25
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001
From: Christy

Hi. I was just wondering if you really sent your letter to that pastor. If so, are you going to post his response? It's sad that pastors feel confident in making such statements, and even sadder that non-thinking congregations simply internalize what pastors say without consideration. Sometimes I wonder if pastors are aware of the power they hold when they speak from the pulpit. Love the newsletter!
-Christy, San Diego

Response: Thank you for your kind words. Yes, I sent the letter to my pastor friend. And yes the pulpit is a real power thing. It is kind of scary. I will publish his response. I will probably paraphrase it however. -David

WHAT? WHERE'S...
Subject: Newsletter_25

Date: Tue, 22 May 2001
From: Marcus McFaul

Where are...
Babette's Feast ?
Chocolat ?
The Spitfire Grill ?

-Marcus W. McFaul
First Baptist Church, Lawrence, KS

Response: You are so right. Like I said I could easily post a lot more. I like those you mentioned, thank you. -David

COMMON GROUND
Subject: Newsletter_25
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001
From: Leslie M

Dear David,
Good topics in this newletter. I found this question that you posed especially interesting:

Why can't Christians admit to common ground with unbelievers?

As a recovering alcoholic, I hear a similar theme expressed in AA meetings (though its founders never intended for such duality to take root): that alcoholics have little common ground with "earth people," or "earthlings" --- unofficial AA jargon for non-alcoholics. Whether it's Christians versus non-believers or alcoholics versus non-alcoholics ("An earthling could never understand what it's like"), it seems to be about one-upmanship. And I'm just as bad about it as the next person. I hope that over time, by remembering humility, I'll be a better example of a recovering alcoholic whose higher power is Almighty God, His Son, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit.
Sincerely, Leslie M.

Response: Thank you Leslie. I thank God for your recovery. I loved the "erthling" thing. -David

KNEE JERK
Subject: Newsletter_25
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001
From: Betty Hamm

Good newsletter David.
About the knee jerk to Hollywood. I believe it is fear. Fear of falling into a worldly trap, fear of being too close to sin. It is legalism. And unfortunately it smacks of works. In other words if I only watch, read, do the right things I will be the right kind of Christian. It is the reason why Christians have a very hard time making friends with non-believers, unchurched, pagans, whatever you want to call them. Many of us are very much interested in saving their souls, but that is it. We don't really want to get to know them. It is not just Hollywood. It really is all the arts or the media if you will. A friend told me she was worried about joining a neighborhood book club because she didn't know what kind of books they would choose. Time and time again, I have heard people slam secular music, esp. rock, without having heard it. Or grouping all rock with gangster rock. I was listening to Marilyn Manson the other day, yes I did say Marilyn Manson. Now I will tell you, I cannot watch the man and I listen to a song of his that is censored (why don't they offer this with movies?). His lyrics go God is in the TV. Well, I have to say, Marilyn is not far off. America's god is in the TV. Most of the rock music is really saying be authentic and fess up to what you believe. If Christians allowed themselves to be authentic around non-Christians, I believe we would see a lot more conversions. I'm off my soap box. Thank you for all you do.
Betty

P.S. There is a song called "Fragile" by a group I think is called the McCallisters or something close to that. It was heart-piercing. It is not Christian, it is very much Gen-X, it is very real. You would love it. A pastor I know calls Gen-X music God-haunted music.

-- Mrs. Betty T. Hamm bhamm@efcn.org
Fine Arts Director
Evangelical Free Church,
Naperville Il
(630) 983-3232 http://www.efcn.org

Response: Thank you so much Betty. I really like the way you think! -David

100 FAITH AFFIRMIMING FILMS
Subject: 100 Faith Affirming Films Newsletter_25
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001
From: RickKristi@aol.com

David, Interersting list you offered. (David's responses in blue)

Frist of all, I would like to add a couple of films to your list. In fact I am kinda surprised I did not see them. However, with a large list such as that and my inability to see Magic Eye paintings in the past, I may have completely missed them. I felt that a few of your films would not fit the Pastor's criteria ("Hollywood never portrays Christian believers favorably. If you can find one film that does I'll watch it."), so I offer my alternatives:

Magnolia (of course). This film fits the criteria because it offered a Christian character and he was one of 2 completely postive, if not heroic, characters.

Deep Cover
, with Laurence Fishburne offers a wonderful potrayal of a Christian Police Officer who acts as a conscience for Fihburne's character as he heads deep undercover. This character acts a Christ figure, sacrificing himself for Fishburne.

Kingdom Come, new film.

SpitFire Grill, funded by nuns offers very strong view of forgiveness.

Shadowlands (come on, this fits the Pastor's criteria perfectly)

The Last Crusade, which you may have meant instead of Raiders of the Lost Ark. Although Raiders is still very affirming to faith. The Last Crusade deals directly with many issues relating to the Christian faith.

The Pastor's Wife, did you forget? If you add Michael and Life Less Ordninary you must have this.

Stigmata if you have some you put in, this is no mosre of a stretch, althoug I would not have it in such a list.

Blues Brothers. If you offer Blues Brothers 2000, you must include the first.

I would differ with many based upon his criteria, including (just a few)
56. Traffic (although the best film of 2000 in my opinion, this dealt with issues of faith no more or less than 3 Kings, which offers a positive Christian character and deals with ethical issues as openly as Traffic) Closing scene has father and augther in Church, with dad listening to daugther, powerful scene.
59. Alien Resurrection (stretch) Holy Bible viewed as high importance.
63. Armageddon (I must of missed it in the mdst of the tacky Bruckheimerisms) Bruce actually prays in this one, in a positive manner.
74. Ghost ( I think it is a little bit of evangelsm for other worldviews and is a def. stretch- if you add it you must add Malcom X and other faith affirming films of different "faiths" which are better made and deal with faith issues better).
Positive to religious faith, however.
82. Left Behind (not a Hollywood film at all. This cannot be part of the discussion since it is made by Chrisitans who feel the same as that Pastor. Plus it is poorly done.) True, I through in Christian Independent films that made it to the popular cinema
84. A Life Less Ordinary (great flick but angels don't make it positive to Christianity)
Positive to religious faith, however.
87. Michael
(come on, you must be kidding- horrible theologial views. One of the only movis Ihave seen in past few years that actully offended me. It was hokey and the "Christian" characters are not even close to "positive". This film would fit into your pastor's arsenal) The reporters start out as unbelievers and end up as believers.
88. The Omega Code (see Left Behind- might as well add Judas Project to this list). True, I through in Christian Independent films that made it to the popular cinema
91. Powder
(see comments on Michael) Powder as a Christ-figure is a positive figure.

Well thank you for reading this. Good list for the most part. I think most Christians are concerned with behavior, rather than worldview . Because of this, they will miss films, music, tv that deals seriously with faith issues in the midst of immoral behavior or questionable action (i.e. language). We are more informed by James Dobson than we care to admit. We see nothing wrong with a sweet film with a dangerous message (i.e. Titanic or many Disney films) or sweet song with same message (i.e. WhitneyHouston's Greatest Love of All a few years ago). This focus on the biggies (language, sex, etc.) causes us to miss God's hand in films such as Magnolia or Three kings. As a Christian Culture, we are mre concerned with morality and behavior than Truth and redemption. There is my 2 cents.
in His grip,
Rick Bennett
Pastor
City on a Hill
Boston, MA 617-438-0851

Response: Thank you, Rick. Your response was well thought out. I would love to meet you some day. Warmly, David

I'M THINKING
Subject: Newsletter_25
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001
From: Cathy Anderson

I have a myriad of reactions to your newsletter proclaiming freedom for the church from Boomers. Let me start by saying I am a very old Xer married to a very young Boomer, so I'm a little biased, I suppose. But I'm also a worshipper of Jesus. I'm not in a "Boomer focussed" church. I'm in a very alive, vibrant church whose worship is solidly traditional. We don't have a praise band, but we certainly do praise. We don't have a uniform - dress ranges from suits and ties to jeans and t-shirts. The ministers (of whom I am one) wear robes on occasions to fit the seasons of the church's life. Here are just a few things to think about in response to your letter:

1) no, there is precious little green hair or rap music in our worship service. I'm just not convinced that this is the only way to reach gen X. We have a 90 voice youth choir that regularly leads in worship. Their friends come to hear them. On youth Sunday ( a p.m. service) the youth do drama and sign language and even black-light interpretive pieces. Youth groups from around the county come to see us. Frankly, I don't want my two little girls growing up thinking the church must accommodate their every whim as to style and taste. I want them to understand that the God of the universe is worthy of their worship and allegiance and service and love - even if there is NEVER a truly contemporary piece of music played in the Sanctuary.

2) I recognize a familiar preconception in your call for boomers to let go of the church - all you really talked about was worship style. There is so much more to church life than the 1 hour a week we spend in corporate worship. Ask the gen Xers in our church what is the most important hour of the week for them and they'll likely tell you it is on Sunday night in their weekly Bible study.

3) There are eternal truths of faith that are passed down from generation to generation. I don't ever want to miss what the generation ahead of me has to teach me because they can't sing my music.

4) Yes, we must find more effective ways to reach gen X AND gen Y. Let's just be very careful in calling for any generation to "let go of the church." I believe God's plan is for us all to worship together and learn from each other. Just my thoughts.

Blessings on you and what you do. I enjoy your voice and your creativity in finding the spiritual in unexpected places. Keep it up.

Cathy P. Anderson
Associate Minister of Children
First Baptist Church 5 Oak Street
Asheville, NC 28801
828.252.4781 www.fbca.net

Response: You are right, the church is about community. Multigenerational congregations are healthy. It's never one style over another, rather the idea is inclusiveness. We need to incorporate the outcast and the out sider. And, yes 3 cheers for Gen Y. Thank you Cathy for your wonderful thoughts. -David

BOOMERS WON'T LIKE YOU
Subject: Newsletter_25
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001
From: Andrea

Hey David, Wow! I never thought ANY Baby Boomers would ever see the light. I do not believe your generation will agree with you. But as a Gen Xer, may I say thank you. I love Hollywood Jesus
--Andrea

Response: I hope I will not be disowned by my generation. -David

CHRISTIANS AND HOLLYWOOD
Subject: Newsletter_25
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001
From: Joyce Chasteen

Jesus said, "all authority on heaven and earth has been given to me", I don't recall Him saying in that sentence "except Hollywood."

The Church also confuses "religiosity" with the "Holy Spirit." They can find scriptures and then judge the world when they act opposite of what they read. Go figure, the spiritual "blind" do not act as though they can "see." Jesus was sinless and did not judge, but He came to save, yet the Church spews judgment on non-believers on a daily basis. The apostle Paul REBUKED the church when saying "who are you to judge!".....he then said we are to judge the Church, and let God judge the world. I have been kicked out of a few churches when I show them what I see that isn't "Christ-like".

I remember while full time in the ministry, after speaking with several people and getting frustrated, I remember praying (thinking I was praying a good thing), "Father, just help me love the lost the way you love them." No sooner than I was on to pray about something else, God rumbled through my spirit powerfully saying, "These are my children, not yours!!!" Get rebuked by God and it changes your perspective on dealing with non-believers. I was immediately put in "servant" mode. When Jesus sent out the disciples to witness, in parables and the like, I noticed He used the word "servant". We are here to say, "your Father loves you, He misses you, He wants you to come home." Not convert someone to dogma. Show Him in our own lives, that they will see something different, that connection they may have once had and maybe have forgotten. I watched on preacher talk about nose rings and was sarcastic..."oh yea, I got Bible for that." I had a nose ring and didn't care what he said because I know Jesus, but think how much this angers the Father when He wants His lost children to come home, but they are insulted as soon as they walk in the door of a church or begin searching. I laughed at the preacher. He was going into the old testament when it talked about body piercing...I laughed as I watched his congregation get up and shout their amens as they were wearing their ear rings. Maybe I'm dense but aren't the ears a part of the body? Oh, and I wondered how many had bacon for breakfast before service, notice the Old Testament mentioning something about pork.

The Church attacks Hollywood because they see Hollywood and the world through eyes of religiosity, not the eyes of Jesus.

God has set apart different people in Hollywood that you may not even hear about. He is there. Michelle Pfeiffer when she was married, had her adopted daughter christened, and then was married by a Presbyterian minister........not some Hollywood big name spiritual guru. The DreamWorks team are different than other studios. On wordplayer.com, a screenwriting site, in their old newsletters these guys talk about what it's like pitching in front of Katsenburg or Spielberg, (they are now with DreamWorks and happen to have written Shrek). One question Katsenburg asks before the pitch, "does it have a universal message." Not all are slimeballs in Hollywood. I remember passing a location set where they were filming, I prayed it would be neat to work on a set, but I had no experience. The next thing I know I get a call a week later, "you don't know me, but you interviewed at my mother's restaurant, you put screenwriting down as a hobby....I'm working on a film and need an assistant." There I was wardrobe assistant, and then assistant to the First Unit Director. Next thing I know (because of my relationship with Jesus, not religiosity and judgment, something was different about me), they put me in control over the petty cash. (Look how God raised up Joseph).I was anxious to leave the set because I needed to get to church (transportation was going to give me a ride). A famous actor asked me where I was going, I said "church, you want to come?" He said, "no, I meditate and it helps my mind." Immediately the Holy Spirit responded, "what about the heart?" He didn't say anything, but I could tell it planted a powerful seed. Because of who I was in Christ, not what I said, the director went with me to Church. I shared my faith with virtually everyone on the set. They didn't "hate" me for it. In fact another project was being filmed, I walked by the set and heard my name being yelled by different people, they came and grabbed me and hugged me. Yea, Hollywood hates Jesus.

The Father has put it on my heart to eventually move to California. Screenwriting is a passion (not writing "religious" but real). Who knows more about 3 dimensional characters then the Holy Spirit. Visuals, creativity. I had one religious person say, "oh, are you going to write for Christian Production companies?" Not!! I don't get into preaching to the choir. God is going to do a powerful thing in Hollywood and I intend on being a part of it. Sorry for the long rant. I am passionate about this subject.
Love in Him,
Joyce Chasteen

Response: Thank you Joyce. I really appreciate your words. -David

WHAT GIVES BOOMERS THE RIGHT?
Subject: Newsletter_25
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001
From: bob

Thank you David. I am blown away my your newsletter. I have had these thoughts for a long time. So what gives the Boomers the right to control the church as they do. I MEAN WHAT GIVES THEM THE RIGHT?

Response: Exactly. What gives Boomers the right, indeed. -David

PASTOR'S STATEMENT
Subject: Newsletter_25
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001
From: Dan Locke

I believe you said the pastor said, "If you can find one film that does I'll watch it." You said, "I will let HJ Newsletter readers know if you come through with the money. Or, if you do the typical "Boomer Pastor in authority" thing, and not pay." If you are going to be accurate, payment would include watching 1 film.
-- Dan Locke danlocke@ntelos.net

Response: You are right, And you have given my pastor friend an out. I hope, however he will go be the spirit of the thing and not by the letter of the law. -David

FRIENDS DON'T LIKE BOOMER CHURCHES
Subject: Newsletter_25
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001
From: dale

david, your are right. all the so-called "fellowship" churches are the same. 30 to 45 minutes of boring so-called "contemporary music", followed by 45 minutes of a how-to-be-a better-person sermon. none of my friends at school like boomer churches. there are some good youth groups, however. thank you for speaking up for my generation.
god bless
--dale

Response: Yes I think youth groups tend to be right on. The church would do well to learn from these post-modern groups. And thank God for all the right on Youth Leaders! -David

ABOUT THAT PASTOR
Subject: Newsletter_25
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001
From: Pastor Dean

As a pastor I can tell you that we need to be very careful about what we say from the pulpit. It can be a power thing. Few will argue with what is said from the pulpit. It is a powerful position. The pulpit should never be used to drive wedges between the culture that we are trying to reach and the congregation. I trust your pastor friend will apologize and donated to the youth camp fund. I love the idea of a Boomer giving to youth.

Response: You are right. Pastors need to be very careful. -David

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