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IT'S NOT A BLASPHEMED MOVIE!
Subject: Dracula_2000
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002
From: Irene

You know what guys,were in this world together ! so well were in down here in this disgusting world waiting 4 our lord and savior JESEUS CHRIST , why cant we just use a little entertainment huh? My Dad is a pastor under the counseling of pastor Phil Aguilar. And im happy to say that my master is a Jewish carpenter ! My home church is SET FREE in Buena Park,Ca. AND im a break dancer in the posse, so i would say i pullin' my part to git to heaven and see OUR heavenly father. I really dont think that Jesus will hold something like watching a movie that connects a person who betrayed him as a vampire aginst us !

comments on TOOLS LATERALUS

FEEL SO SORRY FOR JOSH
Subject: Tool_Lateralus
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002
From: Nine_Inch_Nayls

I feel so sorry for Josh. Why would you toss music that you love because the musicians may not be Christians? Does that mean that you will not listen to Buddhists, Wiccans or Jains? Personally, I consider Jerry Falwell a much worse influence on the masses than bands like Tool and Nine Inch Nails. Stop being a sheep Josh-- its ba-aa-aa-ad for you. Unless your master is wearing boots. I am.

COMMENT
Subject: Tool_Lateralus can't beleive it
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002
From: "GINO

I've listened to Tool for many years and never found them to be offensive. To reply to the child whom threw out his cd GOOD FOR U. Make a stance for yourself and toss out an out sider. But, don't persuade your views on anyone else just because your wacked in the head. Tool has alot of depth and meaning in their songs. Some too deep to swim in. So don't try and analyize Tool, just enjoy the show. Take them for what they are, A BAND NOT A GOD !!!!!!!

TREATING IT AS ART
Subject: Tool_Lateralus
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002
From: James

Interesting review. I appreciate your treating Tool as an art form rather than a pop culture force. I feel that the beauty and emotionality of art is lost on many in the modern church, as well as modern culture in general. I'm a Christian, and to me art is a gift from God. We can all learn something if we approach in an open and vulnerable way. Thank God for Tool.
My favorite movie, as it out-smarts me to this day!
Subject: Jacobs Ladder
Happy Easter Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002
From: John

-First off: I am so glad that I found this website. My favorite movie, as it out-smarts me to this day!

The movie is pretty much based on a short story called "Incident at Owl Creek" (I think). Describes the journey of a U.S. Civil War soldier who is killed in action, and he either doesn't know it or refuses to accept it. So, he goes on one last journey. Someone please correct me here if I'm wrong.

For our Vietnam Vet friend - you are correct. That unit (Jacob's) never saw action in that part of Vietnam (there is some weird website that points out any and all bloopers in movies. So that's were I get that from.) But perhaps I should secure TWO sources before I post such information. :-) And thank you for your service, Sir. BTW, in the movie, the "Vietnam" scenes remain the most realistic of any 'Nam movie that I've watched (Forrest Gump a close second). No, I wasn't there in 'Nam, but I appreciated the casting director's attention to hiring Black actors to play, like, half of Jacob's squad. And they weren't "Denzel Washington" pretty boys, either. This level of detail is very professional. The Black and po' White troops in the movie are vulgar, but funny, too. They tease the "professor" and such. I've been around these kind of men. That's how they were. And I am not being liberal here - Blacks and po'Whites were drafted and sent over there while advantaged college students hid & waited-out the war. Except for Jacob, I mean.

This movie captivates me for some reason. I finally bought a tape of it (by chance - it was just for sale at the local video store - I didn't order it or go out of my way). I thought, "Hey, that's my favorite movie!" I'm still trying to figure it all out. That's kind of cool, I think.

Finally, I must note that the movie successfully sets the proper tone for late 60's or early 70's New York City. (The film was recently shown on BRAVO or A&E.) As you will recall, a half-hour into the movie, or so, a confused or near-dead Jacob is back in NYC as a postal worker, so the camera pans the skyline, including the WTC in the background (this was obligatory for almost every NYC movie - remember? A director couldn't avoid them in a wide-screen shot.). This is on the video that I purchased, but was quite nearly scratched from the BRAVO or A&E TV version (just showed a hint of one the Towers, I think), post 9/11. That was a strange edit, I thought, perhaps the result of "formatting for you TV." But then again, it provided the viewer with a rare glimpse into Jacob's world (reality or not?). A very strange feeling, that. And that sound track! Haunting.
SUBLIMINAL ADS
Subject: Advertising
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002
From: Peter, Kevin: Bosshart

I've been studying subs for over twenty years, my father is in commercial advertising. It's a touchy subject that most people know about however, they are afraid to talk or think that subs can't persuade them. I tell them to take a look around their house and then go to this site. Most people think they can't be manipulated. Some wake up, most can't or won't. Your site is very well put together.
Peter, Kevin: Bosshart

RESPONSE TO NEWSLETTER #33 -THE OSCARS

You Could Honestly Say That This Was The Worst Oscars In History
Subject: My_views_of_the_Oscars
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002
From: Blake C.

The only good things to happen at this years Oscars was that of Ron Howard, all Beautiful Mind, all Lord of the Rings and Shrek awards. The rest was liberal sided agenda, plus being loosely held together by the black female lesbian, Whoopi Goldberg. The ratings even showed that this was the worst year in a loooonnnnngggg time. Why can't we stay with the actually funny hosts like Bob Hope and Billy Crystal, instead of playing the feminist color card. The fact that both the best actor/actress awards were black people is appalling. Halle Berry won over Judi Dench??? Judi Dench would have won if only she was black. I had to shut off the tv for five minutes so i didn't have to see Halle's ranting and fake crying. Don't get me wrong Denzel is an excellent actor but he won for a movie where he glorified spitting in God's face every other word, it kind of kills the whole "God is good. God is great." comment huh? Sean Penn deserved this years, because he represented a retarded man (which he convincingly plays) trying to keep his daughter and he stands for doing the right thing and that little virtue of HONESTY. But apparently that was not good compared to the God slandering Training Day. The happiest point of the Oscars was when Ron Howard, who actually deserved the Oscar, got up and spoke from his heart without fake crying and theatrics. Lord of the Rings made a good showing also, which i was very glad, yet i still think that Ian McKellan should have won best supp. actor, even though i was recently informed that he is blatantly gay. I was so happy when Shrek won, because that movie showed all of the hypocrisy Disney has ever stood for and it took guts to bring it out in the open. So anyways that is a review from an 18 year old Texan. If any of you want to disregard my review of the Oscars because of my age, that is fine but very very lame. I am a conservative Christian and I have a hard time with people who give the minority special privileges when in fact they don't deserve them. I am free to discussion, email me back if you want to. Thank you for your time.
Blake C.

Best Movie - thumbs down
Subject: My_views_of_the_Oscars
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002
From: "Laury Morrison"

Hi
As usual Americans couldn't see past their noses. Peter Jackson should have got best director and LOTR best picture. Beautiful Mind would not have needed any where near the skill to make that Peter Jackson needed for LOTR's.
Laury Morrison

woody allen
Subject: My_views_of_the_Oscars Newsletter_33
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002
From: randy

The standing ovation Woody Allen received was nothing more than a horrible example of how degenerate the movie industry has sunk. To give this man, who basically raped and then married his stepdaughter, any sort of honor is just beyond belief.

Tom Cruise comment how we need Hollywood now is way off the mark. If anything, we need Christ now more than ever.

We need the courage to stand as lights in the darkness.
MY NOTES ON MATRIX
Subject: Matrix
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002
From: Dan King

I only first saw the movie a few months ago on the recommendation of a Christian friend. I was hesitant as it was rated "R" but went ahead. He told me to view it with the idea of breaking free from addiction in mind. Wow was I blown away. I have seen it 5 times now and took many notes on it. I just ran across your site and would like to add my notes to it.

Before we are set free and become Christians we only know of the physical world and we are completely controlled and bound by its laws. Once we are freed we do not have to be bound by it. Many of us choose to because we do not freely use the power of the Holy Spirit. Just as the people that go back into the matrix have different levels of ability and are able do things that defy the matrix laws (such as fly) so we have different levels of faith. We do not have to live in fear and in bondage to our surroundings with Gods power but we choose to. Jesus said that if we had the faith of a mustard seed we could move mountains, he also calmed and had power over the natural world. Jesus had complete power over the natural world just as Neo did at the end.

Those who went back were not able to directly fight against those in control of the matrix (ie demons) but were told not to mess with them and run away. Only Neo was able to directly take on the demons. We Christians are to stay away from demons and only with the power of Jesus can we deal with them. Can't fight the agents, except for Neo, we can not fight Satan on our own but Jesus can.

Some quotes:
"looking for an answer, the question that drives us, It will find you if you want it to"
We have a nagging question inside us as to our reason for existence and God will reveal himself to us if we want Him to
"you?ve been down that road and that?s not where you want to be"
We have tried what the world has to offer and it does not satisfy "felt it all your life, do you want to know what it is"

"Don't like the idea that I'm not in control."
"A prison that you can't smell taste or touch"
When you are in an addiction a or in sin you are in prison that you can not feel or touch, you think you are in control and do not want to admit that in reality you are not the one in control.

"Can't be told what it is but must see it for yourself. After you see it there is no turning back. It is your choice to see the truth or not."

Wake up to see the hold that?s on you and the predicament you are really in. Truth sets you free of it.

When Neo is told to climb out the window he can not believe what he is asked to do, and it makes no sense to him. We do not always understand Gods direction and must step out in faith.

They had scars from the bondage such as the connection on the neck and, muscles that have never been used had to be exercised and practiced. Though we become freed as Christians we still have scars from our time in bondage. When we wake up to the spiritual world we have abilities that we have never used and must learn to walk again as children and practice our faith and practice walking in the power of the spirit.

The Matrix is built to keep us under control.
If you go back would you want to stay?

"It is easier to free a younger mind that an older" just as it easier for a younger person to become a believer than an older one.

" Try to free your mind, I can show you the door but you have to walk through it."
We can show people the way of salvation but each one must choose for themselves.

Just as the matrix feels more real than the real world, the physical world feels more real than the spiritual.

Billions of people living out their lives oblivious to their predicament
Willing to give his life for the truth
There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.
The only way to communicate with those bound by the matrix is to go into it. Christ comming to the physical world as man.
Chosen to save them from the matrix
Just as Neo first died in the matrix before he was able to conquer it so Christ had to die in our physical world to conquer it.

Residual self image (what is real)

Look for imagery of stairs, water, reflections

Stairs- Hierarchy (Exists only in the Matrix) diffuse hierarchy to collective shared leadership Outside the matrix we can commune to the top spirit to spirit, within it we have no communion with God. Reflection- don't fool yourself when you pull out scripture, puling your own understanding and reflection out of it. You do not see another but a reflection of what you think they are or should be.

Water- Baptismal washing away
Neo was baptized right after he was freed from the bondage of the Matrix
Symbolic of new believers baptism.
Dan King

RESPONSE TO NEWSLETTER #35

SOME IDEAS
Subject: Goodness_In_World_Newsletter_35
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002
From: Lynda Gaug

Some visiting missionaries' take on our view of the world was that God is doing great things in the world but because of our negative press, we don't hear about them. Our press wants us to believe that the world is a negative, unsafe place and that the only place we are safe is... in our homes.... watching tv! I think the US has fallen for that hook, line, and sinker. I work in public schools - talk about negative press. When I try to suggest that teachers are better and schools are better than when I was in school, people laugh at me! They choose to believe the press, the politicians, etc. etc. that our public schools are a disgrace and just don't want to be confused by any other perspective.

Lynda Gaug
LYNDAGAUG@aol.com

is this a vote?
Subject: I_Agree_God_Is_Doing_Something_New
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002
From: Unsandi

I agree!!!! :) (Praise God!)

Hmmm...
Subject: i_agree_god_is_doing_something_new
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002
From: Chris

You know...
My wife and I haven't been regularly attending church since we got married in 2000. I've been wondering if something was wrong with me. After all, I'm a Christian. I'm supposed to be rising up early Sunday morning with a heart ready to serve and worship the Lord. Right?

But somehow, in spite of the prophecised doom and gloom I have gotten from people because I haven't gone to church, I've come to know the Lord in a stronger way. I've seen victories and deliverances that I've been waiting for all my life.

Part of me wonders if I'm missing the boat and if this "church sabbatical" is gonna come back and bite me in the butt. Part of me is enjoying the freedom to rest and enjoy a pleasant Sunday afternoon...something I haven't been able to do after years of getting up at 9:30 to go to church at 11:30 and getting out at 2:00 and having a quick lunch only to gobble it down and hurry back to church at 4:00 for the 5:00 evening service.

I don't quite know what's going on. But from David's comments and from other people's comments here, it looks like God is trying to transition us out of being church dwellers and into followers and worshippers of Jesus. Let us just sit back and see how He moves.

Chris Utley

Clueless
Subject: The_Church_Is_In_Decline_Because
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002
From: KEVIN

DITTO.
Peace;<><: Kevin.
http://community.webtv.net/KevinKunz/JESUSTHEWAY

Rediscovering GOD!
Subject: I_Disagree_God_Int_Doing_Something_New
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002
) From: Kevin

DITTO.
Peace;<><: Kevin. http://community.webtv.net/KevinKunz/JESUSTHEWAY

Re: The Force.
Subject: Spirituality_Is_Increasing_Because
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002
From: Kevin

DITTO.
Also, People don`t like having to do things, i.e. go to Church.
[I go to Church every sunday, (even more often).]
To quote; "Sister Act": "Because, it`s a drag"!.
Peace;<><: Kevin.
http://community.webtv.net/KevinKunz/JESUSTHEWAY

God's choice of people is all people.
Subject: Newsletter_34
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002
From: "Ted Thompson"

Hi,
About 66 AD a book was written worning the people of that time that He (God) was discusted with His Chosen People after trying time after time over thousands of years, to get them to streighten up. So, he told the people what was going to happen to his Chosen People and the Land He gave them (the 12 tribes). This information was given to the author of the Book by God thru Jesus's Angel and the Book is the closest N.T. writing to God's and Jesus's authorization. This book is normally the last book in the Holy Bible.

It all came true! The land of Isrl. was completely distroyed and God denounced His House so he let the Temple be desrtoyed and will never let it be rebuilt as it was. The Temple was destroyed, only leaving a Wall to remind the people what he let be done by the Roman armys.

Their World was their Land that God had given them and and at that time took back from them. They had made their Land a World of horrors.

Nero is the 666 which a lot of books have been written, although many of the authors did or do not understand the Bible. Also many authors and publishers have made billions of dollars with misconceptions; such as that the "War" of Armigeddion which was a gathering place and not a War, nor will it ever be such by God's hand.

Read and study hard (using the rest of the Bible and other History books), the Book of Rev., and ""you will be blessed"".

Thanks for all,
God Bless
Ted Thompson Phoenix, AZ

Why church #'s Drop
Subject: Spirituality_Is_Increasing_Because
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002
From: Bob

Hey David,
Well, we live in the Midwest in Wheaton so I don't know how this compares to other places.

1. The church lacks grace. I think the church has less grace than the Bar in Cheers. It is a critical club mentality and people of one type attend. Those who give a lot of money and are active believe themselves more important than others. So my guess is the broader spectrum of society will feel judged there for superficial things in the measure of appearance or type, or behavior (like movie attendance in some places). Church just isn't very diverse so if you are at all different from the mean you will be uncomfortable. The present and just past generation of youth has no real mean, it is post modern. So being untypical as a norm they will not easily fit into a church setting.

2. The church does not project a loving Spirit filled environment of forgiven sinners. After graduate School, when I was in Seminary for a year it was suggested Church discipline might be a solution to the unloving nature of churchmen but how do you discipline someone for pride, or gossip or slander. These things are just as damaging to us as an online addiction to something but only the latter would be confronted by the elders if that. Church isn't safe and I am reasonably sure more than half of the people in attendance there are not Christians. Francis Schafer and RC Sproul both said that 70% of those in attendance at church on Sunday are not saved. So in this community one does not easily sense the presence of God. I don't feel safe there and I have nothing to hide except my earring and pony tail (it is shorter than the founders as depicted in "The Patriot"). The church is weak without leaders who love and cannot really purify itself. I suppose this is why the blood of the Martyrs is the seed of the church, it keeps it pure, in a manner few other things will. Speaking as someone who has youth pastored in the evangelical church and mainline church I believe the mainline churches have a different problem, they have really lost the spirit with rare exception, for the most part by departing from the scriptures. The Bishop of the denomination I served in the Northern Chicago area did not believe in the deity of Christ for example so this will have spiritually deprecating trickle down effects.

3. The Church does not pray. Prayer meeting which are well attended are uncommon, few people go or believe in the importance of praying as a body for the church. I have a graduate degree in theology and I have thought and read about these things a bit. Unless I misread the scriptures I believe there is only one answer for our problems and it is prayer. This seems to be the last resort. But Christ says He will build His Church and the programmatic and theological ideas are not going to solve what is really in decline in our churches which is spirituality or the real sense of the presence of the Holy Spirit. Why are the Churches in decline while interest in spirituality is up? Because God will only move in these places if the glory is His, if the glory goes to our programs, or our perceived goodness the result will be a poison to our own souls with a net loss when all is said and done. He must be first in everything and this comes only by our prayers. When we are desperate enough we will go there and do it and He will bless and no one will say it was their effort or program or method than made the results, which many in the church growth movement say now.

Peace Out,
Bob

Rediscovering GOD!
Subject: I_Disagree_God_Isnt_Doing_Something_New
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002
From: Keith

T People, are tired, of having their lives run, by spiritual, dictators. They, are breaking free, and Rediscovering, Jesus of the gospels. The who said "The Sabbath, was made for man, not man for the sabbath" And "Let he, who is without sin, cast the first, stone." something most churches don't agree with. your bro!
Keith w. Kunz
sent with joy and love! ?
http://community.webtv.net/KeithWK/PSALM45
http://community.webtv.net/KeithWK/Thepottersclay

JEWISH BELIEVERS
Subject: I_Agree_God_Is_Doing_Something_New
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002
From: Steve

Yes.... God is raising up Jewish believers in Yeshua Almost one million alone in the U.S. The rapture will soon occur. Many will be left behind .... LEFT BEHIND THE MOVIE IS WONDERFUL AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE A TESTIMONY. MANY IN HOLLYWOOD WILL BE LEFT BEHIND ... IT WILL SHAKE THE WHOLE FILM INDUSTRY TO THE CORE. JESUS IS COMING SOON

great mini series
Subject: JesusMiniSeries
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002
From: C.

The Jesus Miniseries had a great effect on me - I was not a christian when I saw it, but it had such an impact on me. In particular, the scene at the end, which Cbs cut was the most memorable scene for me which shows Jesus walking on earth which he does by way of The Holy Spirit. I am only very sorry that I can not obtain a copy of this series on video! I have tried for so long, but it seems I can not get one compatible for our vcrs in Australia. Our vcrs use the Pal system. I hope and pray that the tv stations here show it again so I can record it myself.
Regards C.Phillips.
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