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All other considerations aside, how spiritual is a movie? The scale rates from profoundly spiritual (5) to not at all spiritual (1). Courtesy of HollywoodJesus.com.
 
David Bruce

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with comments by David Bruce

I receive a lot of e-mail.  I am not able to post all the mail. I have included a good sampling, however.  If the subject is the same I might group the newer messages with similar older ones.  Also, my response may appear a few days after the original posting. I can't do HJ everyday.  You must include your "name" and e-mail address within your comment if you want it posted, otherwise it will not be posted (there is a privacy issue here and we respect that).  I do, however, encourage you to give your "name" and e-mail so others can respond to you personally.
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March 01-06 2000
BEST JESUS MOVIE OF ALL TIME
Subject: Gospel_According_to_St_Matthew
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002
From: Darrel Manson

I watched this again for the first time in about 30 years. I slept through most of it when we were suppose to be watching in in college. It is at times hard to keep going with the pacing and the poor subtitles.

 However, it is probably the best Jesus movie ever made. It is interesting that it took a Marxist to make a film that is true to the Gospel. Perhaps because he didn't bring all the church's baggage along with him.

Darrel Manson ><>Artesia Christian Church
ICQ 5624184 ><>Artesia, CA
http://netministries.org/see/churches/ch01198

Age is too high a price to pay for maturity.
-Kudzu by Doug Marlett

MY FAVORITES FROM 2001
Subject: Biggest_impact_films
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002
From: Darrel Manson

Memento is probably my top film for the year. It gives us a chance to consider the difficulty in defining truth in a post-mod world.

I'm also very fond of Moulin Rouge and Amelie.
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Darrel Manson ><>Artesia Christian Church
ICQ 5624184 ><>Artesia, CA
http://netministries.org/see/churches/ch01198

Age is too high a price to pay for maturity.
-Kudzu by Doug Marlett

EXCELLENT READING
Subject: Moulin_Rouge
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002
From: Shân

 Excellent reading - i loved your essay on MR ... just one thing though, and maybe it's been pointed out before but you mentioned that Christian takes a room in a hotel that says "Chambres a la journée" - that doesn't mean for the journey, it means for a day, ie you can rent a room just for the day. Voyage in french means journey.
Thanks, Shân

GREETINGS
Subject: Newsletter_32
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002
From: Ken Priebe"

Hi David--
Congratulations on 4 years of Hollywood Jesus! Hope all is well with you. I miss the correspondence comments! Haven't seen any new ones in a month. The hate-mail in that last newsletter was saddening and shocking. You are a brave soul to put up with it. Tis a crazy world we live in.

Hey, let me know if you're ever in the Vancouver, BC area; we could meet up somewhere.
God Bless,
Ken Priebe

Response: I sure will. And the comments are in the process of being posted. -David

IF A PERSON
Subject: Newsletter_32
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002
From: Anne and Greg

If a person lives with ridicule – he learns to be shy.
If a person lives with shame – he learns to feel guilty.
If a person lives with tolerance – he learns to be patient.
If a person lives with encouragement – he learns confidence.
If a person lives with praise – he learns to appreciate.
If a person lives with fairness – he learns justice.

I LIKED IT
Subject: Astronauts_Wife
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002
From: Debbie Wells

Who cares if he was an alien, with his looks, you could overlook alot.I would.Yes, the movie did need a little more content though,and I think it could have been a great movie, but is lacking.All and all though I liked it and bought it.
Debbie Wells
NOT ALL CHRISTIANS ARE ON THE SAME PAGE THOUGH...
Subject: Se7en
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002
From: Jayson Dibble, Kalamazoo, Michigan

 I disagree with "Mollie" somewhat in her reply to the review of Se7en: She argues that Christians don't need to be reminded of the ugliness in this world. Perhaps this is true of certain individuals, but she cannot claim that Christains in general need not be faced with our world's dark bits. Jesus says we don't have to be of this world, but we do have to live in it. And if we ever hope to make changes in it, we have to know what's wrong with it. Even as Christians, we're all at different levels of eye-opening. Some people need the movie's reminder. I don't want to take away or Mollie's opinions or the things she felt when viewing the film. However, I'd like her to understand that because we all were created differently and all make different choices, some of us are in a life station where Se7en reaches us where we may happen to be.
Peace be with you.
Jayson Dibble, Kalamazoo, Michigan

WHO WROTE ...?
Subject: Something_To_Sing_About
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002
From: Yvonne Jackson"

Who is the artist who wrote Cry Holy?

I AM A WICCAN
Subject: News 32
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002
From: Raven Child

  I am Wicca. For one, we do not belive in hate, revenge, or destruction and we do not drink blood unless it is our own. In the Wiccan Rede it clearly and perfectly states we are not to harm anyone. In other cultures such as Satanism, they belive sacrifice, the drinking of blood, ect. is necisarry. We however do not. We belive all life is created by mother earth. We too belive in gods but not the all mighty god. Harry Potter is just a book. It may be represented in Public schools but again its just a book get over it. If you dont like it dont read it, simple as that. Christians may find it offensive but us some of us Wiccans find the Bible offensive and its every where to. Learn to live with it.
-Raven Child

RESPONSE TO COMMENT BY NANCY
Subject: A_Beautiful_Mind
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002
From: GG

On the comment of Nancy Errebo. I must object to her saying how Psychiatric treatment is respectful. They zapped his brain and I'm sure not with his consent. I was in the Marines and they diagnosed me manic depressive I was taken to a hospital and given thorozene without my consent. That drug is like getting hit in your head with a sledgehammer. I can't imagine having electroshock therapy. That part of my life was and still is an embarrassing and puzzling part of my life and who's to say it didn't hinder my brain function since. As a society we have not learned what your diet can help or hinder brain function. The Hippocratic oath is to "First do no harm." The medical universities and colleges only have a few hours of nutritional studies in there programs. Why? Ask your doctor how much studies on nutritional studies he had. Its a shame that big business can so easily sell the ! public "big macs and fruitloops and donuts" and not think that it has an effect on our brain. I really felt for Nash when he was in that hospital and I'm glad that he survived that episode. Hollywood should make a movie about the injustice of the psychiatric field.

WHAT STIGMATA IS ALL ABOUT
Subject: Stigmata
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002
From: Jeremy

My name is Jeremy, please don't use my email address on your site if you post this.

Stigmata is a great movie. Fiction: yes. Entertaining: yes. Thought provoking: yes. Let me first start by saying this; movies today are the literature of yester-year. What used to be the job of literature and art, such as provoking thought, challenging the status quo, etc., has fallen into the hands of the screenplay writers. If anyone thinks for a minute that these screenplays are strictly for entertainment clearly hasn't watched movies.

 Next the issues that the movie Stigmata addresses. The first and foremost message is the silencing of the truth. This parable (Stigmata) is that of Christ's life, he had a message that was proved to be a threat to the religious leaders at the time and so they sought to silence this messenger. Just like the Catholic leader attempted to do to the hair-dresser in the film, when he tried to kill her. This message calls each and every clergy member to the floor (of which I am included). It makes us question if we have ever done things contrary to the message in order to keep our jobs. It is a issue that the Pharisees were faced with, its an issue that the Priest was faced with in the film and its an issue that we are faced with in the ministry today.

 The other issue that the movie tries to raise is that of a "hidden gospel". They try to say that this hidden gospel is from Jesus Christ and are His words. In reality this Gospel of Thomas is indeed quite available to anyone who looks for it. The reason that it is not included with the Bible (canon) as we know it is this. First of all the Gospel of Thomas is a Gnostic text, and in 397 AD at the Council of Carthage where the current Bible was compiled, the Christian leaders were attempting to gather the best texts about Jesus into one volume in order to eliminate the confusion and false teachings that were sweeping through the church at the time. They found, as do many scholars today, that the Gospel of Thomas was Gnostic (which is deemed by many as heretical). The problem with gnosticism is that it concentrates on "knowledge" (which is the Greek root of Gnostic) of Christ as being that which saves, instead of the relationship with Christ. It was precisely this line of thought that the Council of Carthage was trying to remove from the Christian churches of its time. And that is why the Gospel of Thomas as well as many other ancient texts were left out of the current Bible.

 The reason that the screen-play writer as well as Hollywood chose to use this Gospel of Thomas is to try and make an issue out of something that is not an issue. If they provoke people to look for this "Gospel" when they find it they will immediately think that their Pastors and Clergy have kept some dark secret from them, and thus cast a dark shadow over the church. They attempt to use a little fact to propagate a big fiction. But, those are just my thoughts. See what you think.

A GREAT FILM
Subject: Dracula 2000
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002
From: Lowkuss

I think that this was a great movie with lots of thought put into it, its just kinda sad to see some people making too big of a deal about it by thinking its a movie against jesus or it's acually someone's belief, when all it really is, is just a movie about a "what if" situation in the bible, any way i just think it was a really good and well thought out movie

MY POINT OF VIEW: BOTH AGREE AND DISAGREE
Subject: Newsletter_29
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002
From: "Kevin Hooper"

You may or may not have seen this, but it was forwarded to me in email, and I believe it brings up an interesting point:

Bryant Gumbel recently interviewed Billy Graham's daughter. Gumbel: "Why didn't God stop this or do something about this?"
Billy Graham's daughter: "For years we have told God we< didn't want Him in our schools. We didn't want Him in our government and we didn't want Him in our finances and God was being a perfect gentleman in doing just what we asked Him to do. We need to make up our mind do we want God or do we not want Him. We cannot just ask Him in when disaster strikes."

 Bryant Gumbel was silent. On the day that it happenned, I was asked by a friend of mine what I thought. I told him that the terrorist attack was a wake up call. We here in America had gotten complacent, arrogant, and lazy. Most of our nation had either forgotten about God, or forsaken Him altogether. The past few generations have come along never experiencing a tragedy of this magnitude, and many lived under the false premise that we couldn't be touched, that our nation, as a whole, could never be hurt in such a big way. We thought that we were impervious to outside threats, that all we had to do was play nice with the world, and the world would play nice back... We were wrong...

 On the morning of September 11, 2001 the whole of the United States of America received a wake-up call. For the first time since the attack on Pearl Harbor, we had sustained an attack on our nation's soil. For the first time in our nation's history, the mainland was attacked by unforseen outside forces. Whether or not it was God sending His judgement through that event I feel is not the real issue here. In hindsight, the events that transpired in 9-11 and for a few days following that, thanks to the strong faith of our president and a rather impromtu gathering of spiritual leaders, the Reverend Billy Graham included, God received His first bit of positive PR from many outlets in the mainstream media in decades. More to the point, I do not believe that God sent His devine judgement on us through this catastrophe, but rather, He USED this tragic event to bring a nation, which had publicly despised Him in recent years, closer to Him.

In Christ,
-Kevin Hooper

Response: I totally disagree with Anna Lotz Graham. And I totally agree with Billy Graham. They each expressed two very different views. Billy Graham said it was an evil act which God is against. He stated that his greatest struggle has been to understand why God permits such evil. It is a mystery he said. Anna, however, has it all figured out. She would do well to listen to the wisdom of her father. Anna is basiclly saying that God took revenge on innocent people because of abortion etc. There is a judgement coming, but 9/11 was not it. God does not kill innocent people to get people to love him. Does anyone see this simple truth? Evil exists and it is not God in disguise. I agree with you that God USES such events, however. -David

CHRISTIAN ART
Subject: Newsletter_27-Kinkade
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 14:36:52 -0600
From: Kim

 One of your newsletters in the last year talked at length about the lack of religious/Christian art that is being created in our modern world. I believe you centered on the lack of MASTERS, such as Michalangelo. As an artist, your observations have really stuck with me since then and I've constantly looked for good Christian art.

QUESTIONS
Subject: Questions!
Date:Fri, 22 Mar 2002
From: Devon

Hi! My name is Devon Woods and I love your site. I have a few questions. I am a senior and for my English class, I have to write a Senior thesis. My topic is What is the influence of Christianity in the American Culture. I was wondering if you knew of any resources that I could use. Thank you for your time!! God Bless You!

! ; Becauase HE lives
~Devon

Response: I wish I could help, but I am on overload. Check out the HJ book section. -David

PRODUCER OF SPITFIRE GRILL
Subject: SpitfireGrill
Date:Sun, 3 Mar 2002
From:"Rose

The film was financed by the Sacred Heart League of Walls, MS, but they did not exercise creative control. Instead, they let writer Zlotoff free to create a story that would make a positive contribution to our culture.

I think this is a wonderful film.

Rose Pacatte, FSP
Director The PAULINE CENTER FOR MEDIA STUDIES is a project of the Daughters of St. Paul of the US-Toronto Province. The Center was founded in 1995 to promote media literacy education in schools and faith communities.
STICK MEN
Subject: Blair witch 2
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002
From: Sioux

God! Hasn't anyone noticed that the whole movie is full of stick men and pentagrams??!! Check out the rafters in Jeffs place for examples They're everywhere!!
Sioux
TENDER MERCIES SOUND TRACK
Subject: Tender Mercies
Date:Sat, 2 Mar 2002
From: MJ

I am also looking for the soundtrack to Tender Mercies. If anyone knows where to get one (preferably on CD), please let me know.
Thanks,
MJ
PEARL HARBOR REVIEW
Subject: Pearl Harbor Review
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002
From: Josh Hartnett

I disagree with all of the bad reviews of Pearl Harbor said by anyone. I have watched it 45 times and know every little detail. First of which is, OK, Betty said she lied about her age and enlisted in the Navy...which means she is not 18, she is 17. That is why she says, "We're gonna wait two years until I'm nineteen. Red can buy me a ring." Also, I have been doing a great amount of research on the actual attack on Pearl Harbor, Oahu, Hawaii. I am reading a book called Day Of Infamy. Pearl Harbor is VERY historically accurate! You know when the guy with Navy Newsreel says, "I didn't even know the Japs were sore at us!"? That really happened. Someone said, "I didn't even know they were sore at us!" Also, if you notice, as the Japanese are listening to the radio, it says, "This is KGMB in Honolulu..." KGMB is the actual station. There were actually 2 guys who shot down 7 planes, portrayed by Ben Affleck and Josh Hartnett, two very good and hot actors, ! as they are flying in the air, shooting the Japanese planes during the raid. I also disagree with whoever said that the survivors didn't like it. On the behind the scenes, there were a lot of survivors, and they were all invited to the set. They sure ACTED like they liked it. The planes did fly very close to the ground. They DO feel that the bomb that blew up the Arizona came from a high level bomber and went into the magazine room. Some American's did suspect that Japan would try and hit Pearl Harbor (Dan Akyroid). When Jon Voight stands up and says, "Do not tell me, 'It can't be done!' ", that's not something to be "offended" by. It just adds to the feel of things. His speech after December 7 is completely accurate. The Battle of Britain is really at the right spot: The White Chalk Cliffs of Dover. I loved the movie. It did not get you emotionally envolved with too many characters. Just Rafe, Danny, and Evelyn. That's why you cry at the end. Well, why I cry at least. I think they portray Evelyn Johnson, Kate Beckinsale, as just some girl who tries to have sex with every guy. First she tries Rafe; he said no. She tries Danny; he said yes and got her pregnant. Then, she gets back with Rafe. It's like she doesn't care WHO it is. Almost all of the military men were out at night at clubs and parties on December 6th, 1941.

OK, I think I am going too long...sorry.
If you feel differently about any of these and have a strong opinion about it,
email me at JoshHartnettFANATIC@joshhartnett.com.

DETH CRITIQUES
Subject: Megadeth_The_World_Needs_A_Hero
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002
From: Bio rick

Those of you knowing little/nothing about Megadeth, would you PLEASE post elsewhere. Opening lines like 'I haven't really listened to this band' speak for themselves.
TO BAD IT WAS REMOVED
Subject: Titanic
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002
From: "Monique

I was very upset to see it removed but hope to catch it next time. I find Titanic one of the best romance movies of the century. I need to write a review on a movie and was hoping to do Titanic. Unfortunately, I couldnt get help from you!
THE FOLLOWING QUOTE ... IN THE BEDROOM
Subject: In_The_Bedroom
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002
From: "Garrett, Bart"

"And we are left with questions about the extent that their grief and anger have damaged not only their everyday life, but may have even destroyed their own morality and goodness." I am a bit disturbed at this quote in the review. Grief doesn't destroy the morality of humanity, but it reveals it, and what it reveals is not an innate goodness, but a depraved badness. That is the thrust of the Christian doctrine of humanity. We are totally dead in our sin until made alive by Christ. As my wife and I watched this story unfold on the big screen a couple of days ago, we saw what grief can do to people who aren't grounded in Christ--it disables them, stokes anger, and embitters the heart making it impossible to forgive. We contrasted this to what Christ did in us when we grieved over the death of my wife's mother. The movie did an excellent job of depicting a "griever's" way of life, the deep felt changes in an effort to strive towards normalcy. We experienced all of the pain, the sadness, and the turmoil that this couple experienced, yet Christ protected us from ourselves and brought healing and depth in the midst of a tragic storm. Grief reveals our stale morality, while Christ uses grief to transform it.

Bart Garrett
Perimeter Church
mailto: bartg@perimeter.org
LOVE NEVER DIES
Subject: Dragonfly
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002
From: Lelia

I was truly surprised at how deep, and how beautiful, "Dragonfly" was. Dr. Joe Darrow starts the movie fully convinced that death is the end... there is nothing more. In fact, he tells that to a young woman who has attempted suicide.

Joe Darrow at the beginning of "Dragonfly" is not exactly a nice man. He has been wounded spiritually and emotionally by his wife's death, partly (in my opinion) due to his guilt over not having traveled to Venezuela with her. One fact that seems almost lost in the plot is that Dr. Emily Darrow was about 7 months pregnant at the time of her death.

Then, inexplicably, one of her pediatric oncology patients tells "Emily's Joe" that he has seen her "in the rainbow," and that she wants to tell Joe something. Joe's world is utterly shaken. As the movie progresses, we see Joe move from anger, to fear, to belief and determination to find out what Emily needs to tell him. By the end of the movie, Joe is made new, gone from hopelessness back to hope. As a nun (who has interviewed many near-death kids) tells him, "Love never dies."
HARRY POTTER AND THE BIG PICTURE
Subject: Harry Potter
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002
From: Celeste Keller

Harry Potter and the Big Picture
An essay by Celeste Keller

[a note: I love Harry Potter and that is why I am defending the book, I also love the series that are mentioned in this essay although I am an adult and am discussing the possibility of young children reading them]

Many schools and churches have banned, confiscated, and even burned the famous "Harry Potter" books by British Author J.K. Rowling. These organizations have attacked the series because it contains witchcraft .

I believe that many of these groups are striking against this lovely and whimsical series and yet not looking at the big picture. What I mean by the big picture is the hundreds of other books in the age groups that have latched onto Harry Potter.

First of all there is no sexual content in Harry Potter whatsoever. In several series that I know to be read by children as young as nine some of the characters learn to deal with menstruation and have 'off screen' sexual encounters. In two series, magical methods of birth control are discussed and used by the characters. Homosexuality is also an issue in these series and one series contains a pair of lesbian characters.

Another issue that has been brought up about the Harry Potter series is "Fluffy" the three headed dog borrowed from Greek Mythology who guards Hell. This is nothing compared to a series where a character is threatened by a 'Taurus' which is a creature that rapes and kills women.

Again the magic in Harry Potter pales in comparison to the spells cast in these other books. Spells where the character cuts himself in order to give the spell more power and spells that truly do summon terrible creatures.

I also have read several articles concerning Harry Potter and 'drugs'. These articles reference the potions in Harry Potter and furthermore delve into scientific detail about the contents of said potions... what eleven year old is going to go look up wormwort and asphodel? What is more disturbing (yes even to me) is the drug use that is rampant in one author's books and short stories. The characters remorselessly use heroine, cocaine, and marihuana. They are never sorry after words.

There is almost no swearing in Harry Potter and the few dirty words in the books are of a relatively mild nature. In one of the books I just mentioned the "F" word and all of its variants can be found on nearly every page.

I did not find these books in the adult science fiction/fantasy section of the library or bookstore. I found them alongside Newberry honor books and Anne of Green Gables. Furthermore I agree that they should NOT be there, they should be in a more mature section. However they are not. In other words... kids could do worse than Harry Potter.

I know children under fifteen who read romance novels that would make Nora Roberts cringe at the vulgarity. Harry Potter is an innocent story that promotes friendship and the overcoming of obstacles such as prejudice and child abuse.

Some Christians have made reference to the word "Muggle" a term in Harry Potter which essentially refers to a 'non-magical' person. They claim that it is a slur, a word to demean lesser individuals and a profanity against Christianity itself. I don't have any idea where they get that idea. Harry and his friends fight against prejudiced 'death eaters' who would eradicate muggles. The death eaters by the way strongly remind me of the religious leaders of the past (and in some parts of the world, the present) who persecuted the Jews, Huguenots, etc. Harry and his allies strongly oppose these people and fight for the rights of non magical peoples.

I am an adult and the books I have mentioned contain adult themes. I am not ashamed to admit that I read and enjoyed the series' that I have mentioned. I just want to state that judging Harry Potter without balancing it with other books geared toward a young adult audience is biased and ignorant.

I do not wish to give the names of the books or authors I have referenced, and there are many, because I do not wish to have them be persecuted by narrow minded people.
And yes. I am a Christian.
Celest

What happened in the dungeons between you and professor Quirrel is of course a complete secret. So, naturally, the whole school knows. ~Dumbledore~
CHARIOTS OF FIRE
Subject: chariots of fire
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002
From: Marlowe

Hi, I was looking for a Christian review of "Chariots of Fire". I checked your contents with no luck.

Did I miss it? Any good suggestions as where I can find such a review?

Hope you can help.
God's peace,
Marlowe

Response: It has not been reviewed. -David

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