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with comments by David Bruce

THE JUDAS THING
Subject: The Judas Thing Dracula_2000
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002
From: Mat

Here is a good reason to like your site. I thought that the whole Judas thing would upset most people who consider themselves to be Christians. I was thinking, "This one's gonna tick off the Religious Right." Your's is a refreshing point of view.

Response: Thanks -Davi

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE
Subject: Dogma
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002
From: "Mat Carpenter"

I definately agree with you about the movie Dogma. It is a fine movie. Yes, certains aspects of the filmscan be considered offensive. But, it deals with a lot of basic truths. Being religious isn't easy. Bethany knows this. She has to perform a spiritusl task that she is very wary of. Also, I would like to point out to other things that stood out. One is the "buddy Jesus" that Cardinal Glick introduces. It shows that; in this country, anyway, we try to avoid things that make us feel bad. I could go into a rant against the soulessness of pop music here, but I won't. The hard times in life are there to strengthen us, to make us think.

The second thing I noticed is the part about Chris Rock's character. Notice that the King James version of the Bible was translated by white males. It's the human error of racism. Since we all have free will, a few of those guys could have translated things anyway they wanted to. Of course, they would probably be burning right now for it. That's basically it. Good film

THE POWER OF MYTH
Subject: Myth_Is_Good_Newsletter_31
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002
From: "Ken Priebe"

Myth is good. The mis-interpretation of myth as it relates to history and truth is dangerous.

As an agnostic child I was fascinated by history and mythology. 4 years ago I picked up a book about the mythology and history references in Star Wars, and I found it fascinating how George Lucas used the studies of mythologist Joseph Campbell to weave into his stories the "common threads" that occur through many different myths and religions. Shortly afterwards I was invited to an Alpha supper and decided I would investigate the Christian faith. Very shortly after that I was led to pick up "The Power of Myth" by Joseph Campbell, and was mystified by it, so much that I collected several more of his books. Reading them led me away from Alpha and against the idea of "becoming a Christian." In short, the devil threw me a curve-ball when he found out I was close to discovering the truth. If the Lord hadn't called me when He did to change my mind, I'd still be believing lies.

Not everything that Campbell says in his books is wrong. He makes several intelligent insights into how the Pagan, Christian, and Native American myths blend and correlate to common themes. He offers much inspiration for writers and artists and encourages us to "follow our bliss." However, the poison in the apple is his flawed logic and write-off of Christianity as symbolic, not literal. He reduces the historical miracles of the virgin birth, resurrection and ascension of Jesus to simply myths, like their pagan parallels. He stacks the deck in favor of his Eastern religion bias and says that Gnosticism is the only sensible way to look at Christianity. He says all we know about Jesus are four gospels that are apparently contradictory to each other, and Paul was simply re-telling the myth of the Greek hero. The deceptions go on and on. After becoming a Christian I went through intense spiritual warfare as I wrestled my belief in this philosophy with the Truth. It was pretty scary.

(For a good Christian analysis of Campbell's theology, go to http://www.answers.org/CultsAndReligions/Campbell.html)

If we melt the Bible into the same level as all other mythologies for a New Age "Grey Wide Hope," we will fall for the serpent's lies. If pagan myths contain similarities in tales of creation, the Flood, virgin births and dying gods, we should conclude that it is not because of some pantheistic consciousness inside us, but because of a Truth that is inside and outside of us. Myth points to Christ being at the center as the "name of all names." Myth and history MUST come together and point to the true living God, lest we be deceived. I'm reading Narnia right now, and there I think we can see an awesome allegory for how Christ (Aslan) is Lord over all the ideas and creatures of myth.

Ken Priebe
http://www.geocities.com/madkap75.ge

HOW CAN YOU DISPUTE GOD'S WORD?
Subject: Harry Potter
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002
From: "Carol Carlini"

David,
After reading many of the comments about Harry Potter, and all issues set aside accept the following word of God taken from His Word the Bible,

Deuteronomy 18:10-12
"There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who casts a spell, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. For whoever does these things is detestable to the Lord; and because of these detestable things the Lord your God will drive them out before you."

How can any human being created by God Himself not heed God's word and choose not to enter into any thing at all that has to do with or makes trivial the power of witchcraft and satan.???

I don't understand with all the Great Christian films and fantastically written Christian children books why any parent would choose things such as Harry Potter. There is just too many good things out there to choose. So why pick such things that our very own Lord stated He DETESTS.

Response: All the great Christian films? Hmm, I missed them. Do you have a list? I do not disagree with the Bible. But, I do disagree with your application of scripture. My views are posted elsewhere on this passage. Apples and oranges. -Davi

METAPHORS
Subject: JRR_Tolkien_is_Right_On
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002
From: Carduck

I am new to your websight, but interested in what you are saying. I am an English teacher and teach myth. As a teacher I also appreciate metaphor and symbols. As C.S. Lewis clearly uses the Lion as a symbol for God, I see countless other films and books that teach us something about our existence in the form of a fantasy or myth. The myths show man's struggle with sin, teach values to the young, and give us ideals in the Hero. I hope that people can understand that Tolkien, Lewis, and even the Bible itself have metaphors and symbols to help us understand spiritual truths. I would like to know more about Tolkien though. How did he influence C.S. Lewis? I understand that they both were professors of literature and were specialists I think in medieval literature. As I watched Lord of the Rings and read the book, I was reminded of Beowulf and other English works. But did they really know each other personally? Were they friends or was it through their letters and writings? Where could I go to find out this information?
Sincerely, Carduck

LOVE YOUR WEB SITE
Subject: Original_Godzilla
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002
From: Bala

What a great idea. You should add Godzilla 98 and 2000 to your list

FOLLOW UP
Subject: Myth_is_Dangerous_Newsletter_31
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 21:04:24 -0500
From: Mike

"...God brought a realization of himself to CS Lewis through Pagan myth! And, it was through Pagan myth that JRR Tolkien introduced Lewis to Jesus. Therefore, I would not draw as hard line as you do... "

I'm really enjoying your incredible site, and thanks for your kind words on what I sent in.

I'd like to debate a little on the above part of your reply. Here goes.

Would you want to be an advocate for ANYTHING AND EVERTHING that might have been a vehicle by which God has brought a realization of himself to someone? (No I would not -David) That seems to me to be considering only one side of the issue. Many folks have ultimately come to that realization through all sorts of goofy paths, spiritual and otherwise. But I wonder at what cost--how many were enticed by something but either didn't make it out or were hindered in their relationship with God by it?

And do you think God was pleased with those paths, even when He worked through them? (Of course not. God is saddened by many of the situations we find ourselves in. -David) He can use virtually anything, but not everything is commendable. I just think Christians are called to a higher level of discernment and practice whenever there's a reasonable choice. (I agree. -David)

I'm a Christian hedonist in the Piper sense (see John Piper's book: Desiring God), so I think Christianity is all about entertainment and pleasure. I just don't see any shortage of vehicles for enjoying God, and life, that don't heavily intertwine with things that are devoid of God, opposed to God, compete with God, or confuse spiritual truth.

So. bottom line: a little pagan mythology goes a long way; unless, perhaps, it's a presentation of the immense differences between Christianity and Orphic or Dionysian mysteries.
Blessings, Mike

IN THE DARKNESS.. THERE IS LIGHT
Subject: Dyan Cannon
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002
From: Marie Elaina

I, like you, have found the power of God. He works in many ways. My life changed 15 years ago when HE sent me back to raise my sons. I was clinically dead. I began writing to help people cope with the loss of their loved ones or maybe their souls. Many people have thanked me for helping them. One man thanked me for restoring his faith in God!

When you can, please visit my website: www.feelingsinc.com I believe I was sent back to not only raise my sons, but to help comfort people who are suffering from some tragedy. Please keep doing what you are doing. God works through us, if we listen to Him!
God Bless You,
Marie Elaina

JAY HERNANDEZ
Subject: Crazy_Beautiful
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002
From: Shirley

Jay hernandez is so sexy and you need more pictures of just him, he has such a good life ahead of him

THE MOVIE IS KOOLER
Subject: tomb raider
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002
From: Frosty

i think the movie was great i have played the game and wasn't to satisfied.. i think the game is kool but the movie was kooler. this movike wasn't only set for adults so it was best to leave out the showar senes. i think that comin up with a tomb raider 2 would be a challenge set to the way the mad the endin of the first.. i like the guns lara croft(Angelina Jolie) used also the way she acted and play the part in the movie. the movie wasn't to far fetched but so parts were a little odd. I thought that the way she was sarcastic sort of protected her. The more cocky she got the more serious the movie became. As I watched the movie I was at the ned of my seat. I am one for action more movement than any love story or thriller. there was some comedy in the movie and when there was it was the right time just to keep you interestead. The movie showed not all women are prissy and can't kill a spider. It shows that some are capable of being on there own. I think the part of her bein in the army also showed why lara was that way. i think more kids probable watched this because more kids played the game than adults. Mostly i think that keepin out the most of the adult parts was a good way to produce the movie. Many adults thought the movie was dll but for a 12-15 year old the movie was exitin and it showed that not all men are sronger that women. The part of her having to be the daughter of a genious brightin the way of the movie how she always had the next step figured out.I think it is pretty kool how she does the live rounds and fights simon in her house. Also she has a huge house wich sets the story just about right. Lara showin that because she was in the army she wasn't goin to wear no dress was pretty cool. The movie showed a little violence but nothin bad. i wouldn't receomend it for little kids but teens is more the area this movie was made for. I liek tomb raider alot and i watched it over and over again. I can't get over the action and i like her guns. They are awsome. I think the movie was a success..!!!

TOLKIEN CHRISTIAN?
Subject: JRR Tolkien Is Right Newsletter 31
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002
From: "Tyler Steingard"

I know for a fact that C.S. Lewis was a well known Bibal scholar, but I didn't think that JRR Tolkien had much to do with Christianity or the Bible... does he have any biblically based books (like Lewis' Mere Christianity)?
Thanks, Tyler Steingard

Response: Tolkien introduced Lewis to Jesus. So the answer to your question is: yes, Tolkien was a Christian. And, no, he did not write a book like Mere Christianity. -David

GREAT DRUMMER?
Subject: Sevevdust_Home_Music
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002
From: "Robert Faucett"

I just read the paragraph about the singing of both the lead singer and the drummer, and yes they are good, but no they are not better than that of Tool's lead singer and Tool's drummer. Just because the drummer of Sevendust can play and sing (or scream as you worded it) at the same time does not mean he is a great drummer. Yes he is good, but for example, I play in a band with my brother who is very good (and I'm not just saying that), and the drum music he writes to my guitar music is a lot harder to play and fits the guitar parts magnificently at the same time. Sometimes just for fun he will sing while he is playing, and it's not just a "half-descent" job of it. My point is that there are many drummers who can play and sing at the same time and do it well, but that doesn't make them the best drummer out of all the other drummers in other new "metal" bands. I admire tool's drummer more than any other drummer out of the new "metal" bands right now, and this is because he is so talented and mush more coordinated than any of these other new drummers right now, and when I saw them live he just played these so complicated parts like they were nothing which totally amazed me. Tool's drummer is by far a better drummer. As for Tool's lead singer, he is the best I have heard for a long time. He can hit the highest notes and hold them longer and louder than any other new band I know, and it's not just that which makes him a better singer, it's also his lyrics and melodies which are absolutely brilliant and Original just like the band itself.
--- Robert Faucett
--- dazedandconfused88@earthlink.net

BETTAN THAN TOOL?
Subject: Sevevdust_Home_Music
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002
From: "Robert Faucett"

I am sorry, but I cannot see how Sevendust is a better band than Tool both musically and lyrically. I hope that you can take time to explain this to me, because in my opinion (and I do carefully study this especially as far as lyrics go) Tool is by far a better band. I have even heard that Sevendust are fans of Tool.
--- Robert Faucett
--- dazedandconfused88@earthlink.net

I DISAGREE
Subject: Save_The_Last_Dance
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002
From: Tish

I disagree. Faith in God has nothing to do with this movie. It's about believing in yourself and realizing that you can do anything you want to do if you have the will. The reason God wasn't mentioned in this movie was because it has nothing to DO with the movie or the plot. What is this discussion? God in the Ghetto or something?
Tish
Response: I understand your view. It is a secular film. It is not about God. The point of Hollywood Jesus is to look beyond the obvious and see the spiritual connections that is in every human story. Thanks for writing. -David

GREED G-D
Subject: Creed
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002
From: Z

Hi... i would just like to point out that the says "to each his own" and "for each man to work out his own salvation" just a couple things for thought there.. if you feel bad about listening to it. dont freakin listen to it..
-z

Sir: I came across your website while doing some research on the origins of Christianily. I noticed, in a response to an email about the cross, something I could add knowledge to, after my years of studying the Roman empire. Not only did the "Christians" get the name wrong......Jesus Christ instead of Yeshua Ben Yoseph, but they also got the shape of the cross wrong. The Romans crucified on a T beam, that is, a post and beam.........not the common representation used by Christians, which does, as your reader pointed out, resemble the shape of the sword used to conquer in the name of Christ, rather than the historical shape used by the Romans.

Lets see now, the Christians got the name and shape of their main symbol wrong, but we are supposed to believe they got everything else absolutely right? Whew. Will

Response: Yeshua/Josuha (Hebrew) = Jesus (Greek), so what's your point here? Your name would be different in Spanish, for example. Would this make the Mexicans wrong. Christian have no issue with calling Jesus "Yeshua." The Roman cross came in various shapes according to eye-witness Roman historian Josephus. So what's your point. Jesus may have been on a "T" cross or an "X" cross or the traditional cross. I do not think it matters, we are not really sure. And I do not think I really matters to Christians. But it seems to matter to you. Why is that? It must be that you are not a Christian, and you need reasons why you are not. So, great. Be happy. Thanks for your comments. -David

RESPONSES TO NEWSLETTER 31

MISSING THE JOY IN LIVING
Subject: Newsletter 31 -Tolkien and Lewis
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002

Hi David, All this talk about the good and evil of current movies is wearing me out, as I'm sure it is many people. I feel like Christians try so hard to figure out if something is right or wrong that they often miss most of the joy in just living. I saw Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. I have no connection to the occult world and to me it was a breath-taking movie that was entertaining from beginning to end. I also saw Lord of the Rings, The Fellowship of the Rings (twice already). I was absolutely engrossed with this movie and enjoyed every second of it. With both movies I felt like my deepest worship of God was in enjoying the gifts and talents of those who had the ingenuity to create such imaginative stories and bring them to life for the rest of us. I felt no sinister force or pull towards Satan. My heart thrilled with the emotional highs and lows of both movies and I left the theater feeling like I had been on tremendous adventures.

I believe that there are times in life when we should just find joy in living and breathing and spending time with those we love. That too is pure worship of God. I cannot believe that our loving, merciful, gracious Abba finds fault in fairytales and imagination. He created us to use our gifts and talents to the best of our abilities. The people who created these stories and made the movies have tremendous talent and imagination. I was completely swept away by the movies and enjoyed the experiences immensely.

Thank you for all you do. I look to your website constantly for positive aspects to find in current movies and you never let me down.
Kimberly Wenger

Response: You are welcome. And thanks for your Right-On words. -David

DIAKON WRITES BACK
Diakon writes back...
Subject: Newsletter 31
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002
From: Bob Messer

David Bruce writes:
"There is this idea among non-mystical Protestant Christians that the spiritual and the material are two different very different worlds. One sacred and the other profane."

To clarify... such a belief in the separation of the spiritual and material has been called "gnosticism". Gnostic ideas do not well reflect accurate Christian faith. David further writes:

"The unorthodox view of the material universe as non-redeemable is seen in certain Protestant suspicion of the arts -especially true of the Fundamentalists. They are sure that the whole of the material universe is evil and especially Hollywood."

It would be the very point of the Gospel and the Scriptures that (at least part of) the material world is "redeemable", if only for a day or a century. Every Christian believer's body is thereby holy/sacred before God -- even in his/her physical-material being. When you or I dedicate something specific (say, a loaf of bread, a weekend retreat, an automobile, a poem, a building, a big screen production, etc.) to God's use, we bring that thing from its common (profane) use into the sacred. It's quite easy to do, even in "post modern" times... just dedicate something, and follow-through in your dedication.

Even "Hollywood" is redeemable in this fashion; the whole industry, or by just one studio at a time. Do they today as much wish to be dedicated to God "sacred" (no longer profane)? David, you may be asking a large number of people in film & video art to go somewhere they're just not yet ready to go. For, they must be the ones to dedicate their materials/efforts -- if it is to be dedicated to God's use. The church would largely welcome such a dedication. We may invite them, but we would not force them.
Blessings! Marshall Diakon II

Response: Thanks for your thoughtful comments. -David

BABBLE IN ALL ITS INCOHERENT SPLENDOR
Subject: Myth_is_Dangerous_Newsletter 31
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002
From: "Mike Murphree"

Wow! Tolkien and Lewis sure spouted a lot of what seems like pure babble in all its incoherent splendor. I'll buy they understood that the "Modern Scientific Age was limited," but that hardly qualifies as more than commonplace insight. The twaddle about Christmas and happy endings sounds like weakly founded sentimentalism at best. So it's on to the central question at hand: "Do you think Christian faith should be couched in myth as CS Lewis and JRR Tolkien do?"

It's unfortunate that among its varied and common meanings, the word "myth" is often used in ways that make meaningful discussion difficult. It may be used: (1) to mean a story or reporting that, although purported as fact, has no factual basis, but rather is purely the product of the imagination of one or more persons; or (2) to mean the collection of concepts in stories (fictional or non-fictional) that have application to or potentially influence or govern how groups of real people think, feel, and conduct their lives.

If historic Christianity is true, this denotative confusion may be somewhat dangerous in itself. It's easy to find seemingly legitimate reference to the Jesus or the Christ myth, or even to the Christian myth, and with a mingling of the two meanings. Applications to other faiths seem less numerous. It's harder, for example, to find reference to the Holocaust myth, except by the easily recognized kooks who use it strictly in terms of definition (1).

If we follow definition (1), the Christian must argue that Christianity is not myth, but is firmly rooted in the historical account as given in the Bible. To deem it myth would be dangerous indeed, and, I would think, terribly offensive to the God of that history.

If we follow definition (2), then the Christian faith qualifies as myth, and Lewis' comment on the myth and fact of Christianity makes sense. The God who creates has placed within His spirit-bearing creature a capacity to respond to the myths in the story of God's redemptive, and ultimately personal, interplay with those creatures throughout history. Myth, Christian myth that is, in this case is not dangerous, but is essential and THE MYTH to which any other myths must be consonant and subservient.

Therefore, any other myth would be dangerous if it conflicts or attempts to present a higher truth, a bigger and better myth, if you will. Does Lord of the Rings do this? I'm not sure, but here's some thoughts.

First, I suppose you have to take the myths LOTR offers seriously. But let's say that it's entirely possible that some do, so that concern is warranted. (The issue of a Christian's participation in completely frivolous entertainment is another issue, which I'll avoid here.)

There appears to be some fairly obvious symbolism strewn about LOTR that does seem to represent fundamental elements of Christianity (I only saw the movie, so I may be missing a lot more). I suppose that's commendable, or at least non-objectionable, if those symbols are dissected out and thought about in relation to Christian concepts.

On the other hand, there seems to quite a mixing of these symbols with a variety of elements having pagan mythological roots. And if the story is taken as something that could have really happened, as I read Tolkien seemed to have wanted, there's obvious conflicts with the Christian historical account: races of non-human but human-like beings, for example, or magical objects that bestow exceedingly long life. There is a question of the appropriateness of the packaging of myths, even, and maybe especially, Christian myths.

Some notable Christian myths I was able to find in LOTR are (1) the natural inclination of the creatures' hearts to yield to temptation, especially the temptation for control (original sin?); (2) the deceptive allure of temptation; (3) the virtues of self-denial, loyalty, and faithfulness; and (4) the sharp contrast between good and evil. The movie seemed closest to touching the heart in those several places where the virtues in (3) are evidenced. But on the whole, I found the balance between those things that bring tears to the eyes or numinous goosebumps to the flesh versus the titillating action and eye-popping technical wizardry to be grossly weighted toward the latter. Again, it seems to be a question of appropriate packaging for the Christian myths.

I'm least comfortable, I think with what seems to be the big themes in this movie viewed as a Christian film. As far as I could see there's no hint of relationship between Creator (is there a Creator in LOTR?) and creature. The source of heroism and sacrifice, where it exists, is all in the will of the creature. If you take this meta-theme as Gospel recontexted and reenacted, I think there may be real danger. It's a very works-oriented presentation. If there is a loving, suffering, overcoming, redeeming, and empowering Christ here, he is a creature, not the Creator. That's a pretty dangerous false gospel. And being devoid of the numinous, it's pretty heart-numbing.

Finally, a ton of nasty evil is presented in LOTR, and, yes, evil is really terribly ugly and violent. But is not the Christian's goal to think on those things that are good and beautiful? If so, why would the Christian want to visually consume so much cinematic evil and darkness as this movie envelopes its viewers with? Once again, the packaging of the myth is questionable.
Mike

Response: Thanks Mike for your very thoughtful approach. Well done. I appreciate your considerations very much. I would, of course, hold the view that fantasy and myth are important and I would encourage any creative and gifted writer to pursue this genre if they were so moved. God brought a realization of himself to CS Lewis through Pagan myth! And, it was through Pagan myth that JRR Tolkien introduced Lewis to Jesus. Therefore, I would not draw as hard line as you do when it comes to Pagan myth. God can be found there. I have had many great conversations over coffee discussing myth, stories, and movies. -David

BOOMERS ARE THE FATHERLESS GENERATION
Subject: Change Is Good For Churches Newsletter 31
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002
From: Bill

thought provoking article.
I am 53...a boomer who has become a post modern thinker. You have articulated problems but little in the way of solutions.
Music
speakers
language
culture
art
dress
all will no doubt infiltrate the church eventually. It has always been difficult throughout history for adults to accept children.

You did mention, however indirectly , that a vital relationship with Christ is essential to changing anybody from a sinner to less of a sinner. And that can be accomplished in any culture with any music. No doubt some churches must die and others of a different culture - worship style must rise to attract the fatherless and the homeless children of our culture. but we must keep the focus on the relationship with Christ and the focus of articles like this less on the restrictive nature of those mindless, selfish boomer and more on Jesus. Boomers were fatherless too, in their generation for the dads were beating the Germans, the Japanese, the depression, and providing "wealth" for their kids at the expense of their relationship with Christ and at the expense of mirroring a relationship with Christ for their kids.

I am a fatherless boomer whose dad warred successfully and worked successfully (in a financial way). I am no less fathersless than the divorced post modern and no less a sinner as a result of having beeen sinned against and reacting selfishly. It happens in some form or fashion to every generation and to every child. That is why we need a Savior who is personal for every child.

Boomers are not at fault for the post modern lack of faith. I have my ways to distance God, my kids have their ways, and now I watch three grandkids developing their ways. It goes on until Jesus returns.

AND THE ROCKS WILL ALWAYS CRY OUT. THANKS BE TO GOD FOR PURSUING US, OUR CHILDREN AND OUR ANCESTORS.

And thanks to you for helping me think and worship.

Response: I love your reply. The Boomers are fatherless. The whole Star Wars series speaks to this. Never the less, each generation must pass to the next. It is time for the fatherless generation to give place to the divorced generation. Your words go a great way in leveling the playing field so equality and community can happen. -David

SATAN HAS HIS TIME, BUT GOD IS IN CONTROL
Subject: Newsletter 31
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002
From: "gene"

Throughout History we have had wars,we have had witchcraft, sorcery, but we have also had Faith in an Omnipotent Being (ie. GOD).He is in control even though so called intelectuals may have their short lived glory in the SUN. Only through Prayer & Faith in that one omnipotent being can we be saved.

Thou art Peter & upon this rock I will build my church & the gates of hell will NOT prevail against it.

The fall of the Iron Curtain was from a political move. It is through prayer that more is accomplished but most of us have to narrow a view of life .We are rapped up in our material comforts and a greed for even more. All these things will pass away, but Gods word will never pass away .
Gene Pacia

Response: You speak much truth. -David

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