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with comments by David Bruce

GOOD EVENING SISTER!
Subject: Dyan_Cannon
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2026
From: Adelheid

So great to read what Jesus has done in your life.I heard you at TBN.God Bless you and have a wonderful and blessed Christmas!
Best wishes from
Adelheid Gustavsen
(Norway)

THERE ISN'T SPIRITUAL TRUTH IN EVERYTHING... IS THERE?
Subject: 'Megadeth_The_World_Needs_A_Hero
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001
From: dude bro

you guys are really grabbing for some "spiritual truths" in the stuff you are reviewing. if you try hard enough we can make a spiritual truth about pornography, murder, or other sick things. but what is beneficial about that? some of the stuff you have here is a stumbling block to young Christians. Romans 14:21 "It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall."

keep looking for the good in everything, but don't make up what sometimes just isn't there and isn't intended for good. we need sold out Christians in the entertainment business to be salt and light.
dude bro

Response: You misapply Romans 14:21. It has to do with a personal one on one relationship. It is a discipleship issue -and it does not apply to response/commentary to pop culture. Besides Paul drank wine, and so did Jesus. Also they both ate meat. So think through what you are saying. -David

SAME DEMON SAYS "TEACHER"
Subject: Megadeth_The_World_Needs_A_Hero
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001
From: NStevenicola

I wasn't looking for this site but ran across it by accident. I don't know a lot about Megadeath. I found one of their tapes on the street a few years ago. I'm a teacher at a Christian school and I want to be on the cutting edge of what kids are into. I used to be into a a lot of rock but found it really affected my joy in the Lord so I have had to stop listening to it. Anyway I listened to the Megadeath tape (I can't remember the title) and found it very disturbing to me personally for this reason. I was at a church service several years ago that was dealing with the occult and devil possession. Suddenly a girl jumps up and runs out of the church. Several people went after her. As I left the meeting I could hear her screaming and it wasn't this girls voice (I knew her) it was the most gravely, dark, growling scream I've ever heard before or since. Anyway the connection with Megadeath is this: I heard that same scream on the Megadeath tape. The same sounding voice that I heard coming from that girl was just the same as on the tape. No different. What does all this mean? Look at the covers, read the lyrics, and listen to how the music is being played and then put it all together. I have. I can't say that you will come up with the same conclusion. I pray that you the reader will have discernment.
Christ's Love.
Steve

Response: It is hard to believe you qualify to be a teacher. Your reasoning is somehow wrong. I appreciate the fact that you are a Christian, but that's about all I can say that is kind in terms of your email. Please rethink what you are saying. -David

LET'S BE HONEST
Subject: Harry Potter Newsletter_30
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001
From: Greg

All I can say is that the most dangerous error is that which is closer than the truth. The fact of the matter is that maybe Harry Potter does portray certain "good" points/values but it still is not founded on the truth. Jesus made it quite clear that it is the Truth that will set you free. I would never encourage ANYONE to go and watch Harry Potter and open themselves up to the demonic. Are you unaware that the lady who wrote the books is a witch herself? How would this movie or these books help young people in their walk with God. Lets be honest, trying to pull out the good points is a shoddy cover up for compromise.
Greg Cockrell (Administrator)
Covenant People Family Church

Response: "Let's be honest" you say? Well the author is not a witch. Where did you get that urban legend? You need to be honest. She is a Presbyterian Christian. And how does your deceptive letter "help young people in their walk with God"? "Lets be honest" indeed! Go see the movie and be informed. Also, the witch hunts are over. The day of accusing people of witchcraft are over. -David

IF...
Subject: newsletter_28
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001
From: Chris Utley

What if your child, son, daughter, brother, sister, mother, father, best friend, husband or wife died in the 9-11 tragedy. Would you be so quick to pull out Scripture and blame what happened on God?
Chris Utley

HYPOCRITE!
Subject: Gary Busey
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001
From: Stephanie

I hardly think "a good Christian" would be booked multiple times for abusing his wife. Try to get attention another way, you're a hypocrite!
Stephanie Austin, TX

Response: We all do things we are not proud of. I am a hypocrite just as much as Gary. Pray for him as you would want people to pray for you. -David

"ACTING" AS A CHRISTIAN, I SEE
Subject: Gary Busey
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 22:07:12 -0800
From: Ben & Sandy

Well Gary...... I see you've been arrested for spousal abuse this week. I too, am a Christian...and can't see how a man who "claims" to have his heart filled with the Lord, has room in it to justify beating up a woman? Years ago I had a run in with you (Coach House, San Juan Capistrano), I was the ticket window girl. You were a complete jerk...and because I couldn't find your name on the band's guest list...you threatened me and screamed at me through the glass. What a LOSER.... I guess some things never change...sounds like you're still a LOSER.

Response: We all do things we are not proud of. I am a LOSER just as much as Gary. Pray for him as you would want people to pray for you. -David

LORD OF THE RINGS ESSAY
Subject: Lord of the Rings
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001
From: "Tanes, Paul"

J.R.R. Tolkien was obviously a Christian and the values of his religion greatly influenced his work. His works should be revered by the Church becuase it reinforces Christian beliefs and tells a great tale of strife between good and evil. If he were of any other religion I'm sure the books would somehow reflect the beliefs of that religion. Enjoy the story. Why bother with comparing references from the Bible to the LOTR. And since you have I have to say the Elves should not be compared to Angels. The Maiar would more closely resemble them. Of which Gandalf, Saruman, Radaghast, Sauron, and even the Balrog were all Maian (from the Silmarillon and the Unfinished Tales).
Paul

COMMENTS ON HARRY POTTER
and Newsletter_30

CONGRATULATIONS ON A GREAT SITE
Subject: Harry Potter
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001
From: "Matt Seargeant"

David:
From time-to-time I drop in on your site and each on each occasion I am treated to a rational discussion on the media and religion. THANK YOU!

I am a fairly liberal United Methodist pastor and enjoy reading the reviews and comments on various films.

I was intrigued to find most of your reviewers had positive comments on the Harry Potter film. I have read all four books and found the film to be well done and entertaining. It may not be Shakespeare, but neither is it satanic.

Again, thanks for your site and your work!
Matt

Response: Thank you for the kind words. -David

RESOURCES
Subject: Harry Potter
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001
From: Bill Turner

Dear David:
If you want a good resource on Harry Potter from a UK guy, try Confronting the Harry Potter Culture by Rev Dr Mark Stibble. It is available from Word and Spirit Resources 37 Quickley Lane, Chorleywood Herts. 5AE UK. I found this very helpful and well researched on the CS Lewis issue and not a knee jerk fighting fundy response! Great web site. God bless: Deep in the UK jungles:
Bill Turner.

Response: Thanks! -David

IT'S LIKE SATAN IN THE GARDEN
Subject: Harry Potter
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001
From: CJP YOUTH

I have read and understand all your reviews about Harry Potter. The central truth however is that although there are "Christian themes" in this movie and in the books they do not excuse the fact that witchcraft is the central theme. You see, even Satan himself often plays on our values to make wrong things seem right. For instance, in the Garden Satan used what Eve knew as the "Goodness" and "Willingness of God to give us all good things and not harm us" in order to confuse her and led her into doing that which was wrong before the Lord. The truth is when you read the books and Harry is saying spells- your child and/or you are reciting them along with Him and others and thus possibly inviting true evil spirits, curses, and hexes (which by the wayare very real) into your home and your child/your life. I say, if you want good values in the movies your children watch- then let them see movies that also do not conflict the spiritual truth: You cannot mix what is bitter with what is pure and expect that the bitter will simply disappear. Instead, it will in fact, only make what was pure now bitter.

Response: This is a "Mary Poppins" type film. Relax. Flying brooms and talking hats are not to be equated with the fall of humanity in the garden. Apples and oranges. -David

SLICK FLICK
Subject: Harry_Potter
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001
From: Grim Stripper

I think all Christians who are upset over the Potter mania should calm down. My dad for example, he has never read a single Potter book but during the initial days when book 4 was coming out there was a flurry of comments, reviews and criticism, notably was 1 article "Harry Potter may spark a rise in satanism" in the new. And my dad immediately proceeded to give me a lecture on God and occultics and where we as Christians stand. In my mind I was thinking "does he know what he is talking about?"

Also during the filming of the movie, many Christians were upset that parts of the movie would be filmed in a church. They wrote letters to the newspaper saying it was blasphemy and stuffs. In my mind they are potraying a negative image of Christianity, its as if we were still in the dark ages and practicing witch huntings

I think in this new millenium Christians should be more rational and more tolerant of others who differ from us

Response: Amen! -David

READ THE POSTINGS
Subject: Harry Potter
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001
From: Ken

Greetings Hollywood Jesus--
I've been reading through the postings on Harry Potter and I find them fascinating dialogue. I can see both sides of the story, and though I haven't read the books or seen the movie YET I am leaning more towards the "pro-Potter" side. I'm sure I'll have more to say once I see/read it. I've always loved the world of fantasy, and I think it's God will for us to be creative and use our imaginations. And yeah, the devil is powerful and deceiving, but Jesus is the creator of the universe!!!!!! I'd like to think He has more power.

One thought that has flashed into my brain, using my imagination, don't you think it would frustrate the devil greatly if people, especially children, could actually use "witchcraft"/magic for fighting against him? It would be like a taste of his own medicine. I like the image of the devil on a leash, getting to a certain point and then getting choked. When devil-inspired hatred caused millions of Jews to die in World War II, he must have thought, "At last I have them!" And then...the Nazis were defeated, Hitler shot himself in the head and the Jews regained the state of Israel like God said they would. "Drat!" said the devil. When Jesus was crucified, the demons partied, and then...

If Harry Potter was a story about kids using witchcraft to fortell the future, bully other kids, or kill people, I think there would be much reason for concern. Otherwise, I'd say probably not. I'll get back to you once I've seen it.
Praise Jesus!
Ken

ITS ONLY A FILM -LOSEN UP
Subject: STIGMATA
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001
From: Muffy

Stigmata is a movie, not a factual account. For those of you who do not what a feature film is, then let me spell it out: FICTION. It is the fabrication of someone's imagination based on some research - it is designed to entertainment and provoke thinking. It is a DRAMATISED STORY. It is not the truth, nor claims to be. I am astounded that anyone with an eduction or any form of intelligence would take such importance in a movie that is designed by a Hollywood studio to make money. It's an interesting movie, but if you seek the truth, don't go and find it in a film. And for those of you who are going to debate that it might losen the faith of some Christians, then I say, 'Don't you believe the true words of God to be more powerful?'. Surely, a movie of that nature should not cause any confusion to anyone who walks in the faith and believes in God -- if it does, then you'll need pray a little more.
Peace to all.

RELIGION AND THE MEDIA
Subject: Religion and The Media
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001
From: Carla

Dear David,
Congratulations on your wonderful webite! I am currently doing a G.C.S.E (England) piece of coursework on 'Religion and The Media' and I wondered if you would be able to help. I have looked at your website, and it seems useful. However, please would you be kind enough to guide me in the direction of more detailed information on this topic - considering 'How Religion is portrayed in Soap Operas/Films' etc and also where i would find ref to the bible passages relevant on the internet.
Thanks in anticipation
Carla

Response: We will talk. -David

SATANIC, I THINK NOT!
Subject: ELO
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001
From: "Wendy Mahon"

Hi David!
I love your website! It is just awesome how you are viewing secular movies, television, and books from a Christian perspective! Many Christians think that viewing this stuff is completely evil, and they never see the good in it. I am a big ELO fan! I enjoyed reading your review on their current album. Even though ELO is not a Christian group, I notice that they write a lot of lyrics that are spiritual in nature. I found out that several of the guys in that group are actually Christian. It's awesome! I have read many articles about how many Christians like to put them down because they think that they write satanic backward lyrics in their songs. I don't believe all that crap! Their lyrics are the opposite, very spiritual! For example, read the lyrics to the song 'Evil Woman'. He talks about how his woman has done him wrong. And that she has destroyed all the virtues that the Lord gave her. Very satanic, I think not! Keep up the good work on your website. There is so much information on it to read that I have to keep coming back over and over again just to read it all. You cover everything! I notice that you have a free newsletter. Can you sign me up for it?
My email address is wmahon12@hotmail.com.
Thanks and God Bless!
Love ya, Wendy Mahon

LOVED THIS MOVIE
Subject: Brooklyn_Babylon
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001
From: CLB

I loved this movie. Both characters were played exceptionally well. You could truly feel the chemistry between them (it was very sensual, very real) and the story was well written. The park and garden scenes were visually rich and shot beautifully. The tension between the two races/religions was strongly felt and quite riveting. I especially enjoyed the string over beats in the score as well as Tariq's performances with his band. I hope to see him in more movies. Props to the director as well. Slam was a wonderfully made film as well.
Peace. CLB.

BEST MOVIE IN YEARS
Subject: Brooklyn_Babylon
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001
From: "nonya"

I just watched the movie for the first time on BET and it was the best movie i have seen in years this movie has a point that i think a lot of people in this world need to look at the characters were so opend minded about the things that were going on and this is what i liketo see in movies all the way from Anchorage Alaska Showing much love for Brooklyn i hope for more mocies like this holla

HOLD ON A SECOND
Subject: Mithras
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001
From: hang dog

You need to dig a little deeper into your Mithras research. Look into names like Zoroaster and Zarathustra. You will find terms used like "the Way", "the Truth", "the Light", "the Lamb", the"Son of God". You will find a young robed man often pictured with a halo, closely-trimmed beard, sometimes carrying a lamb on his shoulders. All long before Christ. Sound familiar? Paul went back into Tarsus, a predominantly Mithraic community, and merged his version of Christ's story with the beliefs of the people he was desperately trying to convert (the virgin birth, etc.). Remember, Paul though that Christ was coming back, like, in a couple of days, so they'd all better get ready. Without even going into Paul's psychological state or his other motives (a deep-seated hatred of women, for one), I will say that the Christian faith is founded largely on deception. What is it that makes people so ready to believe in Christ when so many other deities with similar stories exist? If it weren't for a couple of military victories by the Greeks and Romans over the Persians, you'd all be getting ready for Mithras-mas right about now.

By the way, the name "Jesus" is actually an accident of bad translation. the Greek word "Iesous" in the New Testament was read by the Romans to be "Jesus" when the actual word translated for Hebrew by the Greeks is "Yeshua" or "Yehoshua", variant forms of Joshua. I find it ironic that the Christian saviour is called by his followers by the name given him by his greatest enemy. You'd think that, in this "inspired Word of God", God would've inspired somebody to get His son's name right.

DISENGAMENT FROM CULTURE /MYTH OF VICTORIAN AGE
Subject: Newsletter_27-Disengagement
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001
From: Tim Balzer

I agree that the church has a nostalgic longing for the past (the 50's and Victorian period). This is seen not only in Kincaide's paintings but also in the Christian novel industry whose books are overwhelmingly set in the past or in the science fiction realms of "spiritual warfare" and "Armageddon" novels. Evangelical and Fundamentalist Christians long for another time, for a "golden age". In many ways the Victorian period 1837-1901 was that "golden age". I do not disagree with the statistics regarding Victorian morality that you quote, there was sin and injustice in the Victorian period. However, it was a time when a worldview, greatly influenced by evangelical Protestants, predominated. Yes there was immorality, but it was called immorality, and was not seen as something to be "celebrated". There were great social reform movements in Britain, the USA, and Canada against slavery, against exploitation of the poor and child labour, the rights of women, the temperance movement (alcohol was seen as one of the chief causes of wife beating). Evangelicals and their teachings were influential in them all. Today Evangelicals long for the past days when we seemed to matter, before modernity "cast us down from our cultural heights". What was left of the evangelical mind was buried by the Fundamentalist movement. We can still seem to make great noises at the grass roots level, but we seem to be unable to touch the mind of our present age. It is only natural that we long for our age of past greatness. However, we seem to have forgotten that what was achieved back then was by being on the cutting edge of politics, social reform, scholarship, and culture. Wishing for the golden age and living in nostalgia will not bring it back.
Tim Balzer

MY TAKE ON TOLKIEN
Subject: Lord of the Rings
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001
From: A Friend

Hello. I would like to say that I love your website. I happened upon it as a link from a Tolkien site and I think it's fabulous! I have been a Christian and a "Lord of the Rings" fan for several years. Although his use of Christian images and themes aren't as glaringly obvious as in C.S. Lewis', "Narnia" books, they are there none the less. My favorite image is when Gandalf the Grey rejoins the party as Gandalf the White -- what a marvelous resurrection image! As much as I enjoy Tolkien's books, however, I don't think I will go see the film. I am afraid of how the secular film industry will treat the spiritual themes. I recently saw a TV special on Tolkien which suggested that since he and C.S. Lewis had such a close friendship, they must have been gay lovers together. How crazy can you be? At any rate, keep up the good work at your website.
A Friend in Christ from Ohio

ARTICLE RESPONSE
Subject: Newsletter_29
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001
From: Nancy

Thanks for the great article / thoughts. I can really relate to what you're saying, so much more than the doom and gloom and 'judgemental' tendency that can happen - and seems to have by the people you've quoted.. What a privilege to know and love a God who, above all, knows and loves us first.
Nancy

COMMENTS ON HARRY POTTER
and Newsletter_30

SMOKING POT
Subject: Newsletter_30_Harry_Potter_Is_Dangerous
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001
From: juliana diaz

In order to truly understand the dangers of advertising witchcraft in a positive light, I believe we need to look at those who have been involved in witchcraft and how they began. While it is true that we can learn Godly principles from almost any story, we must not negate the power of a whisper. Satan is not an idiot. He knows that most people do not change their lifestyle over night, but over time. People who are addicted to heavy drugs usually start out smoking pot. Not to say Harry Potter is like smoking pot, but how are we going to protect our children from opening the door to witchcraft to their lives. As adults, we can appreciate the value of Biblical principles in a worldly story because we have learned Biblical principles. Instead of leaving our children at the mercy of "I hope they see the value in this", why don't we take that time to teach them the principles we know so well. If you want to protect your children from a journey of deceit, you don't have to sign any petition or join any witch hunts, just make a decision not to open that door in their life. If parents can't even say no to peer pressure, how in the world are we going to teach our children to?

Response: And as parents why don't we enter into the world of fantasy with them? We don't need to protect ourselves from Harry Potter, but rather we parents need to protect ourselves from ourselves. -David

THEY WOULD THINK I WAS A HYPOCRITE
Subject: Harry Potter
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001
From: "John Howard"

I want to thank you for this website. My name is Esther and I teach at a Christian Elementary School. I teach with many people who have extremely conservative views and sometimes I feel that if I open my mouth and disagree with them concerning certain issues they think I'm a hypocrite or maybe not even a real Christian. The truth is is that I am a real Christian and I was raised in a Christian home and even went to Christian school my whole life, but I was also raised to think for myself and to not just follow the pack "blindly" as so many Christians are wont to do. My parents love books and taught me to love books. We often read the same books and then had big discussions about them. They were interested in what I was reading. At the same time they didn't put limits on what I could read. They just made sure they were aware of what I was reading. As a result if I started to read something that I didn't understand or that made me uncomfortable I didn't just continue to read it, I brought it to my parents and we discussed it. Books were not banned at our house - they were discussed. If we decided together that a certain book was not appropriate then I didn't read it (and I didn't have a problem with that). I applaud my parents for approaching books in this manner and I plan to do the same when I have kids.

I know this is supposed to be about Harry Potter, and I really am about to get to the point. My dad is a big fan of fantasy and science fiction (even though my mom is not) and because I him, I am also a big fan of fantasy and science fiction. The earliest fantasy I remember were fairy tales. Then I started reading the Oz books. The Chronicles of Narnia were other early favorites. By the time I was in middle school, I was reading all of my dad's fantasy books and discussing them with him. (Oh by the way - my dad is the one who got me interested in the Harry Potter books. He bought them and read them and then gave them to me to read) I always knew that the things that happened in these stories were fantasy and make-believe and could not happen in real life. I never once thought I could actually walk into my wardrobe and enter Narnia or that there really was a big magical book that could tell me what was happening everywhere all the time (like Glinda's book in the Oz stories). I also was never interested in becoming a witch. I read stories full of witches, wizards, and magical spells, but they never made me interested in the occult. I knew that the things in these books were make-believe and not real!!!!!! And that is exactly what Harry Potter is. The things in this book are make-believe and not real. I don't believe that there are kids out there who really think that if they point their finger at someone and say a few select words that that person is going to turn into a frog!! I also don't think that there are kids who believe that they can actually fly on a broom and play quidditch. The whole idea of kids thinking this stuff is real is ridiculous - even to a kid. The kind of magic practiced by the characters in the Harry Potter books is the flashy and fun make-believe magic that even little kids know is not real.

Now there are some people who have expressed concern that certain practices such as astrology and crystal balls and fortune telling that are examples of "real magic" that are practiced by people today are mentioned and condoned in the Harry Potter books. It is true that these practices are mentioned in the books. In Book 1, the centaurs Harry meets in the forbidden forest are astrologers - they study the planets and stars in order to foretell the future. In Book 3, Harry takes a divination class where he learns about crystal ball gazing and reading tea leaves and other kinds of fortune telling tricks. True these practices are mentioned - but they are not condoned!!!! They are actually made fun of and not accepted as serious magic. The centaurs are depicted as scared creatures who read the heavens to find out the future but are too scared to do anything about it or help people in trouble. The first two centaurs Harry meets are unwilling to tell him anything or help it at all. The third centaur, however, does decide to buck the system and help Harry despite incurring the wrath of his fellow centaurs. Astrology is not depicted in the books as serious magic and none of the other characters is even shown to use it. Therefore, astrology is not condoned in the Harry Potter books. Divination is also made fun of in the books. All of the other professors consider the divination class to be a joke and the divination professor to be an even bigger joke. Professor McGonagall tells Harry not to be concerned that his professor saw Harry's imminent death in the tea leavers, because divination is inconsistent and imprecise at best. Because the other professors don't take divination seriously one cannot say it is condoned in the books. I think children who read these books are also going to not take fortune telling and astrology seriously.

Some people are concerned that Harry Potter is immoral because he often breaks rules and sneaks out at night in order to solve the various mysteries that are always going on. These people also say that Harry never gets punished for doing this. But if you have read the books you know that he does get punished. He is always getting caught and getting into trouble. He constantly loses points for his house because of his little escapades and in the context of these books losing points is a very big deal!!! Sometimes Harry and his friends get hurt because of decisions he makes. And while things always work out for good in the end, Harry does have to deal with mistakes he has made. I think that the books are very moral and that there is a clear sense of right and wrong in these books. Harry does have to deal with the consequences of his actions and I think that is a major theme of these books.

These books are not evil. If the bad characters won in the end or succeeded in getting Harry to come over to their side, then yes these books would be evil. But evil never wins in the Harry Potter books - good always does. Evil does exist in our world and we are in a constant struggle against it. I think that is one reason I like fantasy so much. I also think that is why so many well known Christian authors (such as C.S. Lewis, Tolkien, and George MacDonald) wrote fantasy stories. Good fantasy always depicts strong opposing lines of good and evil and evil always loses in the end. Also, there are no blurred distinctions between right and wrong in good fantasy. Harry Potter is good fantasy. Many books, and tv shows, and movies for children and young adults have very blurred lines of right and wrong and good and evil. Things that are good and right don't always win in these stories. In many stories for kids that are written and produced today the characters go against society and established rules and make up their own rules. Many stories for kids today are also not very moral. Divorce, sex outside of marriage, and breaking established rules are condoned in many books that kids read and in many shows they see. I think that I would much rather have my kids read Harry Potter and other good fantasy books than have them read many of the other books that are out there.

In conclusion I want to say that the Harry Potter books are not evil and do not condone evil practices or anything connected to the occult or to Wicca. I think that people should actually read the books (and read with an open mind - not a mind narrowed by naysayers) before they say how awful and evil it is. I apologize for writing such a long message. When I feel strongly about something I tend to go on and on about it. Thank you for a Christian website that doesn't squash people for having differing opinions about certain subjects.
God bless you.

Response: I agree! -David

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