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All other considerations aside, how spiritual is a movie? The scale rates from profoundly spiritual (5) to not at all spiritual (1). Courtesy of HollywoodJesus.com.
 
On this page I post your e-mail and my response. A running dialogue about spirituality and popular culture.

Hollywood Jesus

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INDEX TO ALL COMMENTS AT BOTTOM OF PAGE


REINCARNATION IN "WHAT DREAMS":
David, I appreciate your movie reviews and desire to find points of contact. If God is truly Sovereign, then He is Sovereign over Hollywood. Certainly, the "imago dei" is not entirely dead--God does allow the unbeliever to recognize truths. And, of course, because men are fallen beings, we regularly misappropriate and corrupt truth. "What Dreams May Come" is a great example of how spiritual human beings naturally are and how we corrupt the truth at the same time. I applaud you  for finding the points of contact--many Xians wrongly assume that there are none and I think that speaks droves about bad theology within the church. However, I personally would have like to see you deal more with all the problems in this movie. I believe that Apostle Paul gives us that very model in Acts 17:16-34 where he makes points of contact with his pagan audience, points out the problems with their thinking and reinterprets their truths into true Truth. I am deeply concerned with the megadose of Eastern thought in this film, especially as it relates to both Buddhism and Hinduism. At one point in the movie, Albert (Cuba Gooding, Jr.) tells Chris that "thought is real and  the physical is illusion." Having studied world religions, that caught my attention, recognizing that metaphysic to be right from the pages of both  of these Eastern religions. For them, this world is an illusion to be   escaped--what is real is what is to come in Nirvana, Enlightenment, etc. and, as you pointed out, reincarnation is all over this film. I have since learned that the producers (Metafilmics) designed a film group to tackle metaphysics with an obviously Eastern stance. I do not think this film will do well for the same reason that "Grand Canyon" didn't do well despite an awesome cast: too deep, too philosophical. Most people want something light and this film makes you think too much. But, thanks again for finding points of contact. Those that do see it will talk and that's a great opportunity for evangelism. By the way, in this article I was reading on the film (before I went to see it), the producers said they were making a "new heaven" where marriages continue; the producers complained about Jesus' insistence in Matthew that earthly marriages are dissolved. I couldn't help but see the tremendous irony since the wedding--the greatest wedding-- between the Lamb and His Bride will be consummated at this time! The producers said they were restoring human dignity by bringing marriage into the afterlife but I found it quite degrading that heaven could not transcend anything more than earthly relationships.
Adios in Christ,
Scott M. Armstrong
Atlanta

MY RESPONSE:
Scott, did you go to seminary? Wow, I am impressed with your insight and terminology. You are right, my reviews tend toward the positive connections and that I have very little negative response. I imagine that the film maker is a friend of mine and we are discussing the film's spiritual connections over a cup of coffee. I keep the conversation on a positive note.  I am always mindful of other Christian reviewers that will be tearing my friend apart. But, since I love my friend, my approach is different.
     You are very right, Jesus said there is no marriage in heaven, except for the big one, in which we will all be apart of. I can't wait. Cosmic unity, wow, think of it.
     And reincarnation? Let's see. Hmmm. There are more people alive today than has ever lived. Hence, if there is reincarnation it is reserved for only a select few, unless, of course, we were cud chewing cows or something like that in the past. Not appealing to me, and it certainly wouldn't have worked in the film. Most of my friends who strongly believe in reincarnation believe that they have had several lifetimes and where always persons of note -like queens, kings, or other famous personalities of the past. None of these friends have ever mentioned being a reincarnated peasant or cow. The potential danger in reincarnation is to live life looking backwards. Resting in what one was, rather than advancing into all the wonderful potential of who we are.
SUPERMAN AND JESUS
Oct. 12, 1998. David, I was both fascinated and pleased to find your web site. It is certainly worthy of the name "Jesus," and it is by far the most creative, original, and graphically pleasing site that I have ever been able to enjoy, anywhere on the net. Your site has been added to my browser's personal toolbar and I intend to be a regular visitor.
     I was especially pleased to jump off to the "Superman 60/20 Celebration Site." There, I contributed my 2 cents' worth, and took some of your observations with me. Without being preachy, I tried to introduce Superman fans to a comparison/contrast exercise between Superman and Jesus Christ, the God/man. I've attached the piece as a Corel Envoy file for your perusal. If you are so inclined, get back to me and tell me what you think Thanks again for the Super site!
Keep the faith, brother! In Jesus' name, a Superman fan forever,
Paul

To see Paul's comments go to Superman page.
THANK YOU HJ
Oct 12, 1998. Dear David, Finally someone who truly is obeying Philippians 4:8, looking for the honorable, right, pure, true, lovely, excellence, and praisworthiness in all things! Instead of focusing on thinking of so-called "Christian things" you are focused on thinking Christianly about all things! Thank you.
     Finally someone who understands the dignity of mankind as well as his depravity. You show how humankind, as an image-bearer of God, truly can't help but live in accordance with this image--that in the midst of corruption and rebellion, all desires for good find their ultimate fulness in Christ.
Thank you.
I will visit your site often and promote it from my own site!
Your brother in Christ,
Rich Vincent
     Webmaster of TheoCentric Website
     http://www.theocentric.com
     Associate Pastor of College Park Baptist Church
     http://www.yourchurch.com
EXCEPTING ANTI-CHRISTIAN SITE
Oct. 11, 1998. I must admit, when I first saw the name "Hollywood Jesus" I was expecting some kind of anti-Christian site. What a pleasant surprise! It sure is refreshing to see film reviews from a Christian perspective, without dwelling on all the negative aspects of Hollywood film-making. I am so sick and tired of self-righteous legalistic Christians telling me what movies I should or shouldn't watch. (Some even say that we shouldn't watch movies at all!) I'm a 46-year-old Christian who has had it up to here with legalism in the Body of Christ. I applaud what you are doing with your ministry.
     One question: how do you spot the intricate details in these films? For example, I saw Mimic, but I missed the guardian angels in the stained glass windows.
Thank you - great job!
Jim David
Peoria, IL
HJ THOUGHT PROVOKING
Oct 8, 1998.This site is terrific..good, balanced and thought provoking. Keep up the great work..it is needed and appreciated..
-R Cecil
HJ NUTS
Are you nuts!!!! Come on, man!!!
-Sebastián Pablo Martinez
HJ INTERESTING
Looked at the Web page. Very interesting. Thanks.
-Julie Innes
PLEASANT HOURS & SIMON BIRCH
Oct. 9, 1998. Dear David,  My name's Jon, and I'm extremely impressed with Hollywood Jesus. It took me back to when I saw Christian symbolism in everywhere and in everything, which was an approach I gradually left. After spending a few pleasant hours reading and enjoying your pages, I'm reconsidering that Christian interpretation doesn't have to stop with the objective storyline. While I might disagree with your interpretation of a movie here or there, the mass effect of your reviews is convincing: The stories coming at us, are stories of love and redemption, and good triumphing over evil, stories of Christ.
     I noticed that so far, you haven't done a review of Simon Birch yet. Please see it. You won't be disappointed, it's an excellent movie about being an unrespected prophet who has little control over what happens to him and his friend. (And most critics just don't get it.)
      I too, have a Christian Website with movie reviews; Please stop by and visit. I'd appreciate your feedback.
My URL is: http://surf.to/frimmin/
Shalom v'Tovah,

MY RESPONSE
     Wow! I like you! I went through your site. Incredible! I mean wow! I love your spirituality. I enjoyed reading of your Journey.
You like film! You write reviews! Could you write one on Simon Birch? If you do I'll post it. I trust you because of what you wrote in your site. You are my kind of guy. I did see the movie. It's great -He's a Christ type for sure. In the original book he believes he is virgin born! Actually I hope you do. It is rare moment to meet someone like you. I would very much like to remain in touch with you.
     I feel honored by your good words regarding HJ.
Warmly your in Christ, David Bruce

BRAVEHEART
My favorite movie is "Braveheart." There's a sequence in it where Robert the Bruce is confronting his father. In it his father is trying to persuade him to take the easy way to fame and power.  Interestingly, the son ties in belief in his rebuke. He leaves his father and later takes a stand. The metaphors to the Bible are flying right and left everywhere! It is a powerful example of denying the world to accept Christ. There are so many wonderful allusions to spiritual things, muttled at times by worldliness, but the picture at the ending is so striking! "The Shadowlands" is a more perfect film about spiritual things. It affected me a lot, in my understanding of relationships.
-Smith
From Asociación Tropical de Radiodifusión
Hello David, this is a great site! Thank God for IFC newsletter which introduced me to it. I just finished reading the Amistad review; great insights on a great movie. I will watch it again and gain more after reading your review. I am recommending your site to my Christian friends. Keep up the good work.
I LIKED HJ
David, I love your site. I've been trying to find just such sites on the Web, but it's very difficult. I found you through Bob West's Theophilus site, which is another great place. Keep up the good work. I've been telling people (even unbelievers) about Hollywood Jesus and I've linked to you (I stole your banner) on my site. If you get a chance, visit and let me know what you think about it. It's a continuing story of a Christian who struggles to know God in a deeper way through his everyday experiences, such as grocery shopping and covering stories for the newspaper.
The site is: "http://members.aol.com/Owentew/index.html"   Et Tu? by Owen Tew. God bless you and your ministry!
Greg Richter (aka Owen Tew)
ELMER GANTRY
Oct 5, 1998. Really enjoyred your site -- good insights, and really helpful, since I like to refer to movies in my preaching... However, I can hardly believe that Elmer Gantry isn't on anyone's list --- what a fantastic movie, in which the matter of "who's the good guys and who's the bad guys" is really not an easy one to decide.
Thanks again, Kevin Tully
Pastor, Church of the Good Shepherd (United Methodist)
VIRTUAL FAITH
Dear David,
Oct, 5,1998. Have you had a chance to read and evaluate Tom Beaudoin's "Virtual Faith" in which he analyzes how Generation X's music videos reveal their irreverent spirituality? Is there any one book on analyzing modern movies to see Jesus in them that you would recommend? Thanks, John
CAN'T HIDE ASTEROID FILM.
CAN ANYONE HELP?

David,
Oct. 5, 1998. A relative recently tried to tell me about a film which was recommended to her. It was about asteroids heading for earth but it isn't "Deep Impact", "Armageddon" or "Asteroids". She couldn't remember the name of the film and hasn't actually seen it herself but wants to hire it if it's available at the video store. Not much to go on but I thought you may have some ideas.
Alan. asharpham@tsn.cc

MY RESPONSE
Can anyone help him? I have posted his e-mail address.

Oct 9. More on the saga. Apparently the film is called "Fire FROM the Sky". Sorry about that! The local video shop has it listed but is not available from any of their suppliers according to their lists. Can you find out anything about it for me? It doesn't rate a mention in Leonard Maltin's 1998 Movie & Video Guide either.
God bless, Alan.

DOES HJ ACCEPT REVIEWS?
Dear David, Great site! I am interested in posting some reviews - from a Christian perspective - that I am doing on several films. Can I send them to you for consideration?
     Your site is close to what I am looking for. Is there a site that
specifically reviews films to give Christians talking points on using the films for evangelism? (yours seems close, but it appears a little more general).
     Some classic films that could use reviews (didn't see them):
Franco Zeffereli's Jesus of Nazareth, The Mission, Awakenings, The Dead Poet's Society, Chariots of Fire, Sophie's Choice, Defending Your Life, The English Patient, Grand Canyon, Crimes and Misdemeanors,
God Bless your work here!
Kris Childress

MY RESPONSE.
Yes, I do accept reviews. If I Iike 'em, I post 'em.
Most Christian review sites are moralistic centered and not Christ centered. It is so sad. I don't know of any such site that you are looking for except for HJ.
I like your list. They are important films.

TRUMAN IS THE JESUS FIGURE
     Oct. 4,1998. Interesting site, and interesting movie. Truman as a pro-Christian allegory may or may not be what its creators intended. However, I agree with David's comments to the young lady who left the repressive pseudo- Christian organization. Unfortunately many self- proclaimed Christof believe they have all the answers for their followers. Truman can be viewed as a Christ figure in that he is tempted, crucified (on the boat), walks on water, and is reborn and "ascends",showing us all the way. I initially understood the film as an existential tale, this is better.
Dan Williams
ROBERT SWEENY'S BEST FILMS LIST
     BEN HUR --In looking through the various lists already posted I couldn't help but wonder,  hasn't ANYONE seen BEN HUR? One of the best films about Christ ever made. One of the most moving as well. Excellent depiction of God working in the life of one man.
     Steve Martin's LEAP OF FAITH amazed me with it's overtly Christian themes that it never put down or made light of. The ending is astonishingly deep (but read some of the secular reviews, even the ones that liked the film overall didn't understand the ending. How sad.).
     John Boorman's EXCALIBER is filled with spiritual concepts which can provide hours of interesting discussion.
     Woody Allen gives a wonderful example of loving the sinner without condoning the sin in MIGHTY APHRODITE. The sacred bonds of marriage are tested and found true in this film as well. (The language used by the title character will totally offend most "Christian" viewers, but hey folks, Jesus came to recapture the lost, not just hang out with the good and pure. Whoever THEY are!)
     GROUNDHOG DAY has Bill Murray learning a hard lesson: Fullfillment comes from loving others more than yourself.
     In TRAPPED IN PARADISE three dopey bank robbers spend Christmas Eve trying to escape a small town with the loot they've just stolen, but are won over by the overwhelming love and kindness of their victims. This film depicts the love of Christ as it SHOULD be lived, and has more real Christmas Spirit than any holiday movie since Miracle on 34th St. (1947 version)
     SCHINDLER'S LIST vividly depicted how God can even use a non-believer to do His will (Schindler is shown to be a Catholic, but apparently a lapsed Catholic, if he ever really believed at all). Also, the list itself is fascinating. Many people helped Jews survive during the war, but Schindler is the only one to my knowledge who made a specific list of people he really didn't know or have any personal connection with (other than having worked in his factory). Could descendents of Schindler's Jews be part of the 144,000 mentioned in Revelation?
     And I would be very much remiss if I failed to mention LILIES OF THE FIELD. A great statement about simple faith.? One of the best films about Christ ever made. One of the most moving as well. Excellent depiction of God working in the life of one man.
     Your website is most interesting, thoughtful rather than judgemental. I am enjoying the exploration of it very much. Please keep at it.
CITY OF ANGELS IN THE UK
-WONDERFUL FILM WE HAD SEEN

Hi! I was in the cinema with a lot of friends. After we left the cinema everybody was as silent as they are if something terrible has happened. All feelings and impressions go round and round in our heads. We dreamt and we didn´t say anything for a long time. Then after several minutes, somebody tries to express his feelings. Everybody thought the same thing: "City of Angels" had been a wonderful - probably the most wonderful - film we had ever seen. We talked about it and everybody agreed when I decided to buy the CD. After having bought it, everybody wanted to listen to it, to remember the pictures and the feelings. All of my friends wished that there might be something like angels and we learned something with the help of the film: Just hope, there would be help - somewhere… In fact it was very interesting that these angels didn´t wear white dresses or sth. like that. I think it´s a good decision to dress them in black colours. I think it´s a well-made film, thanks for that…
Bye, Elke
SUPERMAN
Hi David! I dropped in for a quick visit to Hollywood Jesus, and  am impressed with what you have done. I only took time to read your  review of Superman and found that very interesting. Even though I had  been a fan of Superman from the days of the early comic books and I enjoyed that movie immensely, the things mentioned in the review never occured to me. I'll return later when I have more time to browse.
--Bob
PLEASANTVILLE REVIEW COSTS MONEY
     9-24-98. I understand that recently this film was reviewed in the Boston Globe. Would you by any chance have a copy of this review, or know where I could get it (online)? Obviously, the Globe has a web page, but they want a credit card number to do the search and I don't wann risk that for probably just a couple of paragraphs . . . can you help? Love your page, and your ideas. Have a great day!
-Yaqui

MY RESPONSE
     Susan,  I wish I could help you. It seems Hollywood Jesus is about the only review out there that is free! I wish newspapers didn't charge. Oh well! So sorry. Thank you for the kind words about HJ
Warmly, David Bruce

THE APOSTLE -DIFFERENT VIEWS
     This is a wonderful web project--creative, fun and so informative. I'm Chair of Education at a small Christian college and will definitely link to your site from my departmental home page. I haven't gotten too far into your reviews as yet, but I was eager to see your reports on "The Apostle." I agree that it is a wonderful movie, both in its content and its acting/production. Interestingly, as my wife and I debriefed following the film, we found we had very opposite reactions. I was very moved by Sonny and his humanness. She had experienced early in her childhood some overbearing Pentacostal evangelists, so she watched the entire movie with tenseness and negative feelings. Your review is "right on" in showing wildly varied views and opinions. Thanks for your efforts. I know the effort involved in even small web-based projects (I maintain several sites), and you are doing a terrific job. I'm proud of the ability and insight of so many ... to bridge gaps between our faith in Christ and living in our late 20th Century culture. It's no small task, and it takes flexible, creative thinking, along with mature, secure faith.
-Dan
POWDER BY SALVA

David, (My favorite film is) Powder by Victor Salva.

MY RESPONSE:
     Thank you Mary. I appreciate your response. Why do you like Powder? Do you like a few others?  God bless you, David Bruce.

REPLY:
     Thank you for your acknowledgement. This movie touched me with it's message and  it's artful direction. Normally, I am not that moved by a movie, however, the basic philosophical message coincided so much with my beliefs in the interconnection of all via energy that I looked for the writer and noticed that the writer and director were the same. This heightened my interest. I wanted to know more about Victor Salva and so I searched his name on the net and that's how I found you. I also found several negative comments about Mr. Salva, which were concerning. I had to ask myself how could someone so insightful to the universal principles have written this sensitive story with such talented direction and have such a black mark himself as a child molester. When I found your sight and your comments on the movie your visions added further support to my original impressions. I am an avid reader of spiritual materials and in a metaphysical way the movie theme reinforced my beliefs concerning energy and the unity of all.  I am not a big movie buff, but regardless of Salva's personal worldly issues his portrayal of logical spiritual/scientific principles sends an informative message. It is sad that his social dark mark has served to blacken the important message that this movie represents. I compliment you on your insightful review and agree with your observance that spiritual messages are surfacing at a much needed time. There are only two other movies that have touched me and I am not sure of the titles. I think one was "Far and Away" were in the end ( Tom Crews??) dies and the camera pans to the sky showing the spirit rising, and the camera pans back down showing the spirit choosing to return to the body. I also thought the "Preacher's Wife" had value.
Thanks! GBY

MY RESPONSE:
     It is sad about Salva. Sometimes in darkness light can shine. Saint Paul was the spiritual genius who said "the evil I don't want to do, I do, and the good I would do, I don't." He, too, was perplexed over his own personal evil and called himself "the chiefest of sinners." But he also knew that no one is beyond the grace and redemptive power of God. This is the message of Powder. The film is the cry of Salva from the depths of his soul for all the world to see and hear. There is light even in the darkest night of soul.

VICTIM OF LARGE SCALE DECEPTION
     David, I am a 41 year old 1st year Philosophy student (a late bloomer) and my first assignment in over 25 years is 'Could I be the victim of a large scale deception about the world which
seems to be the source of my experience? Set out skeptical arguments which raise this alleged possibility and consider skeptical arguments of Descartes or others..such as the systematic doubt or deception in movies like “Total Recall or Dark City”. What do you think is the best way of addressing these skeptical arguments?'
     Truman has not yet been released here but it was movies like "It's a Wonderful Life" that led to my life long interest in Philosophy that I have only now had the opportunity to pursue in earnest.
     As I have said in my assignment I believe that "Cinema Fiction has become a means for contemporary, non-academic writers such as King and Niccol to explore traditionally Philosophical questions. This provides an opportunity to stimulate thought and discussion of these ideas in the public arena."
     While, as I said, Truman has not been released we have seen extensive advertising for the show so I was seeking information from the net when I found your Page. I found it most helpful as it was so thoroughly informative.
     Of course my essay is only now in the research stage but my working hypothesis is that (as Truman and other movies show) the problem with sustaining any deception (or self deception) is continuity. The way therefore to approach this question may lie in examining the "holes-in the-plot" of our lives. A starting point for these is the various questions (moral right, existence of god, identity etc) that Philosophers are concerned with.
      In other words our "reality" is not seamless. I simply ask could these inconsistencies represent the flaws that may later become clues.
     I have to agree with one of your respondents who argues that Christof could as easily be a description of your god as of commercialism but I'm not prepared to debate our contrary religious convictions.
     Thanks again for the information and if you like I'll send you a copy of the end result.
-Peter G

MY RESPONSE.
     Yes, I would like a copy. I am intrigued by your current study. And yes, we are victims of our own culture. A study of the third world reveals this. "How many colors are there in a rainbow?" Most in our culture would say six (red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple). However, some third world cultures see only two colors: warm and cool. In fact there are millions of colors. Our language and cultural conditioning limits our perception of reality. There is a line in Truman, "we accept the world as it is presented to us." How true this is. How few people do what you are doing: Question the reality of the world as it has been presented to us. Go for it my man. Because you are indeed a "victim of a large scale deception about the world which seems to be the source of (your) experience."
     Check out this biblical passage: 1 Cor. 1:27-28 (NLT) "Instead, God deliberately chose things the world considers foolish in order to shame those who think they are wise. And he chose those who are powerless to shame those who are powerful. God chose things despised by the world, things counted as nothing at all, and used them to bring to nothing what the world considers important." This is Truman. And it is you. Keep in touch. I like your direction! Thank you for your kind words regarding Hollywood Jesus,
Warmly, David Bruce.


COLIN'S NEW LIFE
     Colin e-mailed in his top ten films. I was impressed. I asked him to tell me a little more about  himself. And, he did:

David: OK, Now you've asked, I will elaborate, but I will need to give you some  relevant background that will help to put things into perspective.
     Up until the age of 28 (between 3-4 yrs ago) I was your typical fun  loving, hard working successful business professional, that enjoyed a   close set of fun loving friends.
     We regularly "kicked the arse" (UK Saying) out of life and competed  with each other for encouragement and possibly because of high levels   of testosterone. Eventually after a peak 2-3 yrs, we all met "live in"   partners and thereafter things became more complicated. You can choose  your friends, but not their partners.
     So, in summary things were pretty good; no money worries (classed as  yuppies), plenty of parties, great and stable relationships, families  OK. We never discussed life too much only how we may improve ourselves, and sometimes quoted Earl Nightingale and Anthony Robbins  on each others answer phone - "Success is the progressive realization  of a WORTHY goal" & "there is no such thing as luck. Luck is when  preparedness meets opportunity and opportunity is there all the time!"
     So I guess you could say that we were looking to improve and develop,  but this ran in the background. We mostly came from working to middle class up bringing.
     However, things were about to change incredibly. I introduced most of  these guys and I was about to be the one singled out and socially   separated. I can tell you this is not so great, I love them as close  friends very much.
     I personally had always been fairly philosophical and had periods   where I could not stop thinking about what life was about, the single  most valuable factor in life that to me seemed to be Love. The fact  that we all believe in Love even though we cannot see it etc..  But I never looked to a God or to God for an answer. Only as a last  resort when things got tough, would I half heartedly call out to God  for help, more in frustration.
     I never really new the importance of Jesus, and truly thought that he  was no different to Moses, Isaiah, Noah or any of the other great   prophets. I had no idea that his identity was God, and what I am  trying to say is, that if I was looking for God, I would not have looked to Jesus or Moses or the others, but God himself.
     OK, that was an elaboration if ever I wrote one.
     However, during this time I was looking for nothing, things were   great, as I explained earlier. One night however, I was falling asleep, just sat content in a chair and "suddenly" my head and (it  felt like) my body was gripped by the brightest light and
indescribable sensation. The light was brighter than the Sun and was  white and pure - full of life. The feelings where at least 1,000 times  happier than my most happy time in my life. The strangest thing was,  however, even "if" I had been looking for GOD, I new immediately that  this was Jesus Christ and no one else. (Feel those goose bumps yet - I  just did as I wrote this!) In his presence I felt a joy that I cannot  ever explain in words, It seemed as though I could have stayed there   forever! And I normally cannot stand still for two minutes. He said to  me "You are Good" & "Tell Them" followed by what seemed to be a 10   minute period of non-verbal communication. The other amazing feeling I  had whilst experiencing this, was that I felt that I had always known Him.
     I did not know what this meant, but after 18 months or so, I think  I  realize what was being said. "You're good" I think meant for me, your  OK, your valuable, don't worry what others say, be confident - Why?   Because I had (privately) always doubted myself and my ability. The   "Tell Them" I believe was simply this - to tell people what happened   to me, and under what circumstances it happened - I wasn't looking for  Jesus, and in fact didn't know a thing about him apart from the fact  that he died on a cross, and that if I was looking for anything (which  I was not) it would have been God!
     Any way (bored yet), over time I let this experience become just   something that happened to me, and I had soon just got back into the  normal routine. Work went downhill, my Grandma got Cancer for the  third time and said she would be dead in 6 months, my mother became  very ill and my father became an absolute nightmare. Anyway, despite  all this turmoil, I had a great partner and I felt as though I was  coping very well.
     I gradually became tired; physically, mentally and spiritually. I   began to see how people really are, whereas I think before I had often  been naive. It was like a blindness had gone, a new window had been  opened and for the 1st time I clearly understood in others,  insincerity, bitterness, masquerades, hidden agendas, selfishness,  gossip and so on.. I was devastated at the real state of affairs, how  could I have missed this for so long? I became quiet, reclusive and   very uncomfortable with myself and others I didn't trust. My spirit
was dying and eventually felt as though it had left me completely.
     I began praying (out of desperation, but now because of what happened  18 months previously) and prayed for my Grandmother and my mother.   Three months later after my Grandma refused treatment she came to my  house and declared "I have just been for my check up, which we thought  would be the last one, and to the Doctors amazement, the Cancer has  gone. They are now scratching their heads in wonder." My mother came  out of hospital and my parents actually get on very well now, they  even respect each others opinion - wow!
     However, I still and more then ever felt dead inside and remained   desperate. I contacted an old Manager of mine who was a Christian, and  asked him for advice and help. He gave me several books on faith and  one such book explained who Christ was (Questions of Life - Nicky  Gumbel - Kingsway Publications - UK). I now new how important my  experience was, based on facts I could not dispute about who He was.  The more I read (looking for the reason I shouldn't believe) the more
I was convinced. During my reading several amazing coincidences  occurred, they never happened before and merely added to this  realization. A few weeks later I came to John (my previous manager)  and said that I "think" I was ready to give my life to Christ. I  realized that I can achieve nothing with no life spirit inside me, and  if he is the "Life" then maybe he will give me some back. My stance   was "I will give it a try and see if it works" - what a skeptic eh!
     Anyway, I have never looked back and grow strong, as well as more   amazed every day. I am more alive than I have ever been, even though  most of my previous friends have abandoned me (they are beginning to  come back). They thought I was going crazy and "losing it", but I am  now proving to be far from that. Instead of "losing it" I feel very  much as though I have "gained it".
     As you mentioned on the web site Hollywood Jesus, "something's going  on". I see it every day and your film just convinces me more. More  coincidences happen to me every day and I seem to get placed in front   of so many key people that are influencing society and faith. I also  realize that this also has a lot to do with my preoccupation's, I'm  not totally "out there".
     You asked how I discovered the site, I don't remember exactly, but I  was looking through a Christian web site, or "searching" on Jesus or   Christian faith. I was amazed when I saw the site and mailed it to my   un-approving non-Christian friends. One of them spent the weekend with  me this week and your site was the main stimulus to our conversations.  He called me Monday in fits of laughter to tell me that he has just  discovered, the associate he hired 2 weeks ago is an active Christian.  He thinks that he maybe under attack!
     I hope this was what you were looking for, but if it isn't then at
least "I told" someone else what happened, Jesus Christ will do the rest.

MY RESPONSE:
     Wow, what a story you have. Thank you for sharing it. May I post part of it? God has started you on an incredible journey. Things are really happening to you that go beyond the norm. Please stay in touch. I would like to keep current on your adventure in Jesus. It seems there is something powerful a foot in your life. I thought about you all day. You are now in my prayers.
Warmly in Christ, David Bruce

    David, Thank you very much for your encouraging response, sometimes I can  tell you I feel quite isolated. It's great to receive fellowship from  anywhere and by any means.
     However, please feel free to post whatever you wish, being Christian I  am sure that the Lord is guiding you. I will pray for you also and for   Hollywood Jesus, it seems to have the power to reach into the   "secular" zone.
     I am also of the opinion that the Church needs to show people that  Christianity is not "boring", irrelevant, or untrue. The film industry  and popular music etc.. is an effective way to reach people. Too many   churches stay inside the building.

Blessings in Christ
Colin Bosher

Feel free to e-mail Colin at
COLIN_BOSHER@HP-Italy-om1.om.hp.com


FROM RON WHEELER, CARTOONIST
     I very much enjoyed your web site. I enjoyed reading your review of Spielburg's Private Ryan. Sometimes I'm amazed that he and others like Michael Medved are not Christians. I heard a rumor that his mom is a Messianic Jew. Perhaps he will some day create their way right into the kingdom. It was my creative pursuits that eventually led me to Christ, and eventually to my calling, "to create cartoons to be a communication vehicle for spreading God's truths." After reading your review, I bet you understand what I am trying to do with the gift God has given me, don't you?
     I like your approach to relaying the Gospel. I think it will be very effective. You remind me of a book written about 30 years ago called, "The Parable of Peanuts" which was written about drawing a spiritual parallel from Charles Schultz's comic strip. His premise was, which I still adhere to today, "Whatever your work is, if you put your heart in it, it will reflect your heart." For me, and someday perhaps for Steven Spielberg and others in Hollywood, it is my hope that our work would reflect a heart devoted to Jesus.
FILM STUDENT FROM MEXICO
     My name is Humberto B., International Student from Mexico at Regent University School of Film. I am currently writing a paper about this movie, and your review really helped me a lot. If you want a copy of my final work, please let me know...I was very desapointed about other groups reviews; they are totally blind about the spiritual content.

HOLLYWOOD'S GROWING INTEREST
     Hi there! My name is Antracia Merrill and I am working on a story for a magazine called Gospel Today regarding Hollywood's growing interest in movies and TV shows with a Christian theme. I'd like to speak with you to get a little insight from you on the piece. If you can, please give me a call at (555) 555-5555. Hopefully, you can give me a call before my story must be filed.

MY RESPONSE:
     Not a problem!

ABOUT AMERICAN REMAKES
     Hello David Bruce, My name is Emmanuelle and I live in Belgium (near Bruxelles) I don't speak very well English but I'm going to explain why I write to you. I have to make a work for university about the remakes and your site interest me. My work is based on two films : Point of no return/Nikita, and: Three man and a baby/ trois hommes et un couffin. I'm looking for documents about the remakes in general and in my two films in particular. If you have documents or title of books of what ever else about these films please, Write me back.
Thank You Emmanuelle.

MY RESPONSE:
     I don't have any documents on the two films that you are doing. When is your paper due? Maybe I could look around and find something for you. Let me know how much time you have.
Sincerely, David Bruce

THE TERMINATOR
     I was fascinated by your "Hollywood Jesus" website. Examining movies from a religious perspective -- what a concept! I didn't know any sites like this existed. Keep up the good work.
     One film you might want to explore: "The Terminator." (The original one from 1984, that is, not the sequel.) Amazingly enough, it tells a story similar to the birth of Christ. It features a woman who has an infant child that will one day be the savior of his people. The child's name: John Connor. Those initials should ring a bell. I can't explain it very well, but give it a look.
     And I agree with your review of "The Apostle." I saw it when it was at the end of its theatrical run. It was an intelligent, poignant film.  How it missed winning any Oscars, I don't know.
     If you ever get the chance, take a look at the "coming
attractions" trailer for the movie "Superman." It describes Superman in very Christ-like terms and goes right along with what you said in your review. I saw the trailer on a program called "Trailer Park."
-Joe

MY RESPONSE
     Joe, Thanks for your gracious words. Yes I do know that about Terminator. Also, according to Time magazine T2 is about Gabriel telling Virgin Mary to flee into Egypt with the savior of the world. I did not know that about the Superman trailer, thanks for the tip. I'll try to get a copy of it. BTW the Apostle hits video stores Aug. 18th.  You seem to be a very insightful person.
Warmly, David Bruce

YER IDIOTS
     Yer all just a bunch of idiots with pretensions of spirituality!
-Edmund

MY RESPONSE.
     Dear Edmund: Thank you for expressing yourself. I too think of myself as an idiot at times. You confirm what I sometimes think of myself. "Pretensions" yes! I'm working on them. "Spirituality"? Well, I try, but it isn't easy. "Yer all a bunch..."? No, its just me, one person, one human being. I am glad there is only one idiot like me and not a "bunch of idiots". God help the planet if there were more of me. I am a pretty worthless piece of trash, at times, filled with flaws and undeserving of even the least kindness from you. Thank you for your reminder of the worthless sinner I am. Do you have any insights into overcoming human flaws? Do you know how I can be more spiritual? Do you think that the fact that someone, like me, exists means anything? You exist! And, I think that is pretty special!
Warmly, David Bruce

EDMUND'S RESPONSE:
     My previous e-mail mentioned (albeit rather bluntly) that you are all a bunch of idiots. This reaction is understandable (though probably not excusable) from someone who, as of now, am a self-confessed agnostic. I appreciate your reply though. The very fact that you bother to reply to such a derogatory statement by me shows that you are probably not entirely "pretending to be spiritual".
     You see, I was once a truly committed Christian who hold dearly to all the orthodox Christian doctrines. As time passed, I got absolutely disappointed with the pseudo-spirituality all around me. To be honest, I too have also been guilty of pseudo-spirituality - the kind which looks for a devil under every pew and practice to "see eternity in a blade of grass". The kind that goes around mouthing "Alleluias" and "Praise the Lord", who believes that "all things work for the good of those who love the Lord ..."(Rom.8:28). In my years as a Christian I have met some who were truly spiritual. Example, Michael Card the singer-songwriter who basically sing his way through the Bible. A.W. Tozer, that great preacher with the Alliance Witness whose books alone (Root of the Righteous, Knowledge of the Holy, Divine Conquest, Pursuit of God, Paths to Power,etc.) are a veritable "cloud of witnesses". I go on to appreciate men like Dave Hunt, C.S. Lewis, Leonard Ravenhill and the like. If there were more of such men (at least in my local church), I would probably still be a believer.
     Alas, this is a doomed generation. Doomed to follow teachings such as the health-and-wealth doctrines, Name-It-And-Claim-It, King-James-Onlyism, angel-worship, Matthew Fox's New Spirituality, undiscerning ecumenism, etc. Others hardly even believe anything at all, they merely follow the latest trend and put on a facade of spirituality by criticizing certain Hollywood movies, exposing the apparent "Satanic" influences of certain rock songs with backward-masking, and promoting undiscerningly certain songs (believed to be Christian in origin); such as Debbie Boone's "You Light Up My Life" with the hedonistic line (How can it be wrong when it feels so right) apparently ignored because the song has a certain Christian "flavor" in its tune!
     All right now, enough rambling. Here's one idiot writing to another idiot - we exist, we can still choose to live. Existence precedes essence? A somewhat liberating thought ain't it?

MY RESPONSE:
     Edmund, thank you for writing again. I am amazed by your story. I can relate. There must be thousands of people, like you, who have grown disenchanted with all that pre-packaged churchianity stuff. I really like your list of authors. It's a good one. Your statement, "If there were more of such men (at least in my local church), I would probably still be a believer" indicates, to me, a lack of appreciation of your own inner spiritual depth. Edmund, your letter, otherwise, indicates to me that you have a lot of spiritual depth. For years you have pursued the inner and outward journey. And, you are still on it. Just in a different way. Keep on, my man. It's worth every pain and joy. Here is an interesting verse for you: Matthew 28:17. It's you. And it's the mark of a true disciple. Also: Genesis 32:28, "Your name will no longer be Jacob," the man told him. "It is now Israel, because you have struggled with both God and men and have won."
Just imagine that,
          ISRAEL = those who struggle with God!
          And, DISCIPLE = some doubted!
     Edmund, keep on struggling with God. Keep on believing and doubting at the same time. I pray you will win in your fight against and with God just as Jacob did.
     Keep in touch, you are unique in that most people haven't even started doing the hard work as you have. I was deeply moved by your letter and haven't been able to get it out of my mind for 4 days now. Powerful!
Kindest regards, David Bruce

HOW CAN I CONQUER PAIN AND TALK TO GOD?
     Dear sir, please tell me how to conquer the pain and the pills and to speak to God!!!!   I'm close to the edge and I'm not sure how to step back. I lost my soul mate on March 28, 1997. It was good Friday, not for me and my family. We had been married for 33 yr. He was my white knight and a sudden stroke/heart attack took him before I could say good-bye and this happened in front of our 16 yr. old daughter and 2 yr. old grandson. He made a promise to him the night before that he would never be hurt or alone again. And, he made me promise not to keep our wedding pac-- if he died first, I could come too. 2 months later I had major back surgery that has left me in extreme pain and partially disabled. 9 months later I lost my mom and sister. I have to work to support the 3 of us and the pills allow me to do that. Tell me how to keep B---'s promise??? I do believe in GOD, but???   Thanks, E------
P.S. I'm glad you made it !!!!

MY RESPONSE:
     Dear E-----: My heart goes out to you. I have not been able to stop thinking about your letter. You have been through so much pain and hurt. I met with a group of friends last night to discuss a children's program we are going to do and I told them of your situation (with out giving your name or e-mail address, of course) and we all prayed for you. It was a powerful moment. My friends were moved by your story. Prayer is simply talking to God in your head or with your mouth. Easy. We all go through so much in life. My father died. Then my sister died. Life isn't always easy. But, God does go with us through every pain and situation. E----, do you have a contemporary English Bible? If you would like one I'll send on to you, free of course, and I will mark some key passages that I think might help you. The Bible says you are free to remarry, you would have God's blessing and the blessing of B----. But, you are probably not in a good emotional place right now for this. And then, there are your conflicting thoughts. I think there maybe some other things I can do for you. If you would like to dialogue some more just reply to this letter.
Warmly, David Bruce

E's RESPONSE:
     THANK YOU ,so very much for your kind reply. I do have a very used Bible and I would be very interested in sharing the words of GOD. This is a time of great loneliness and despair. My childhood was not one of great happiness, but finding my soul mate at a very young age, saved me!!! B--- was a perfect gift from GOD, he had a heart of gold and held a joy for life that I have not seen in anyone else in my life. It's very hard to face the next day knowing he isn't going to pull up into the drive -so that I could run out to say I've missed you and get a kiss and laugh and ask how his day way, he always made people laugh. He always had a smile and could make you laugh, even if you thought or knew you were dying. He was a simple man and was LOVED by ALL who knew him. He was the foundation of our family and without him the family has skattered to the wind. This is a fact!! He was my only friend! My best friend and life was complete with just 1 like him. Tears of loneliness are streaming down my face and my grandson is saying that I shouldn't cry for grandpa and it's making him sad, as he wipes them away. The harder I try to pull myself out of this black hole the deeper I sink.--tomorrow I go to the hosp for tests, I'm very afraid of the answer. as B---, lay dying in my arms all I could say was that he had been a perfect husband, father, grandpa(52 yrs young) and that it was alright for him to go. I couldn't ask, any more of him, and I knew living on machines would have killed his beautiful soul. not one time did I say please don't leave me alone, I can't go on alone?? I pray I said these things knowing that I didn't have the right to ask him to stay on this earth when GOD was calling. I lived inside a perfect little world and never wanted it to change. B--- knew the real me and he loved me!! I don't think I can ever expect that again and it's hell. I don't know why I've been able to type these words to you, but for some reason it seems like the right thing to do, thanks for caring and all your prayers. they truly do mean a lot.
-Sincerely, E

MY RESPONSE
     Dear E, thank you for writing back. I am so deeply moved by your pain. I keep thinking of you.  B--- was really a good man for you! A real God-send! I continue to have the people in my  church pray for "E." Such emotional pain keeps some people from moving forward. This  is not good. But, at least you are moving forward, slowly, but moving! And, this is good.  Do you know of a good local church? Perhaps, the minister or priest could pray with you  and give you some additional emotional support. We all need each other. Let me know  where to send you the Bible and helps, if you want me to. Life is amazing. We never  know what's around the next turn. I am praying that God will surprise you with something  good! May God continue to be with you E.

-David Bruce

THE HOLLYWOOD CROSS
     Hi, nice site....thanks !
Would you by any chance know how to get to the top of the Hollywood cross ? If you do, will you pals let me know ? I can't find anyone that knows or anyway to find out how to get there ... Thanks so much...
Carmen A. Queral

MY RESPONSE:
     I don't know. If anyone out there knows please E-mail Carmen at
CQueral128@aol.com

PRINCE OF EGYPT
     I am pleased that care is being taken with this film to be as sensitive as possible to the Jewish and Christian communities however I am concerned that the era of Ramesses II is yet again being portrayed as the era of the Jewish stay in Egypt. It would seem that not as much care is being taken to put the story into proper historic context. The communicating of world faiths is crucial to developing a harmonious world community but we must also get our history into perspective to understand the evolution of society. The influence of dynastic Egyptian culture on the modern world should not be belittled or demonized.
Kind regards, Morag

MY RESPONSE:
     True we don't know when the Children of Israel were in Egypt. Some scholars, however, think it was during Ramesses ll.  Will we ever really know?  I think the point of the film is that slavery of any people is wrong and Egypt did enslave people, as did America. America is nonetheless important as is dynastic Egypt. I don't believe demonizing Egypt is the point of the film. The Prince of Egypt doesn't demonize ancient Egypt any more than Amastad demonizes America, or Schindler's List demonizes Germany.

A WALK IN THE CLOUDS
Hi, it's me again. Kent in Houston.
Your site is really hummin' and looking great! Thought you might like a tip on a movie I think is truly great. It stars Keannu Reeves and is a sleeper. The title is "A Walk in the Clouds". An American GI comes home after WWII only to find his war bride has been less than faithful. He determines to make a go of it anyway and hits the road as a candy salesman. He befriends a young woman who is returning home "in the family way" from her college professor. She is sure her strict Italian family will disown her. He offers to return with her as her "husband" who will then abandon her at least allowing her to live with some respectability in her family's eyes. They ultimately fall in love. He refuses to consummate their love because he is already married. He learns the true meaning of family. Her Father learns the true meaning of love. The climax is powerful. You must see it! It available on video.
EDITED FEATURES
Hello David, Thanks for your great websites, and reflectively thoughtful content about movies as a believer, and pastor. I'm glad we can look into culture and know that many are useful parables to convey spiritual truths. My wife is from a more legalistic upbringing, and just more sensitive to offensive content of movies. we were wondering (don't know where to begin asking) if anyone puts out the movie videos that are shown on airplanes, with offensive/suggestive words and scenes edited out? Is there a potential market for this "edited version" of movies? Who might I ask to find out? Thanks!
DJ Chuang, executive pastor
Ambassador Bible Church
Falls Church, VA

My response: Thank you for your kind thoughts. I appreciate it. Like your wife, I used to preach against Hollywood. Then one day it occurred to be that I was going about it all wrong. We are a media saturated culture. Everyone rents videos and watches television etc. Everyone! Nothing will change that so I thought of using the culture to communicate spiritual ideas and dialog. A teenage girl came up to me the other day and said Pastor David ever since you told me how movies use the Bible stories I always look for that when I go to the movies. WOW! Bingo!  Also tell your wife that Hollywood is changing. Less nudity, sex and violence these days.
Item 2: No, the studios would have to do that. And they won't. No money in it. However there are 2 options. Record off network television "edited for television." Or get the new device that connects to your TV. There is the V chip coming and a new product that removes all bad words. Check this product out at http://www.dove.org
Yours in Christ
David Bruce

THE TRUMAN SHOW
I was a born again Christian for 25 years, spirit filled for 15, and heavy into apologetics. I saw myself in the Truman show, and it's interesting because I saw the opposite of what you saw. I felt like God treated me just like Christoff (Christophany) treated Truman: He says he loves Truman, and he gives Truman the "perfect life", but at the same time, he does everything he can to keep Truman from the things he really wants, not that they are evil, they just aren't in God's "perfect plan". When Truman started questioning based on the reality that he was seeing, everybody told him he was crazy. The more I prayed and cooperated with God and the church, the more exploited and abused I became. When I questioned it or got counseling, they told me it was just demons. All my "friends" told me the words of the Holy Spirit, just like Truman's "friend" did, designed to keep him there. It was so scary to leave, I would go to hell and God's wrath would be on me. But if to stay would be unbearable sadness in Jesus' "abundant life". Everything I ever wanted he destroyed in my life. Like a loving husband and a home. I am glad that I have walked away from God and Jesus's saving blood. Now I have peace. Now I have control over my destiny. I am no longer plagued by guilt and fear. I thought the film was in reality anti-religous. I think you are twisting it to say that Christoff was "anti-Christ". He was the perfect image of Christ. He gave Truman life, and he would take it away in an instant to keep him in line. Just like Jehovah who practices genocide, germ warfare, chemical warfare, and regualry kills babies to punish the sins of their fathers (which means he's a liar - an imperfect sinner). And Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever. -Kizu

MyResponse:
Dear Kizu:  What "Christian" group were you in? Yes, the Truman Show was your experience. No  one can deny you your experience. It is hard for me to imagine a good Christian group that would side track honest questions with dismissals like "you'll go to hell" or "that's  demonic." This is unholy and demonic and very much anti-Christ. I am glad you left that  repressive group. May God sent their narrow minded repressive ideas to hell!

You say you are free and yet your comments exhibit a lot of anger -perhaps, even towards God. I saw the film Rapture the other day. Your comments bring it back to mind. It is   about a young woman (Mimi Rodgers) who tells God she does not want to go to his   heaven because of all the suffering he allowed in the world. Is this you? If it is good!  Jacob in the Bible was renamed Israel because he wrestled with God! The name of  God's people in Hebrew scriptures is "Israel" and it means "those who wrestle with  God."

Please continue in your spiritual struggle with God. Don't give up. It's important. Keep   asking the tough question. And, for your own sake, stay away from repressive cultist  groups that paint God's world like the Truman show. I am glad you got out. Now explore  what God will do now! You are Truman at heaven's door about to enter the real world.

Your comment was to long for the guest book so I moved it to the Truman page. Please   e-mail me your additional thoughts. I would love to continue this dialog. And maybe post it as we go along. Your life and thoughts are very, very important
Yours in the struggle,
David Bruce

DISNEY'S TRON  -THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE
Hello. I really enjoyed your site. I didn't know there was anyone else "out there" who enjoyed finding references to the gospel in films. I guess the film that got me started on this was "Tron," that Disney film made many years ago that used a lot of computer animation. I saw tons of references to Jesus in the film -- so much so that I was wondering if the authors were Christians and had tried to tell the gospel in a new and refreshing way... or if it was just coincidence.  Well, I just wanted to let you know how much I enjoyed the insights I found at your site. I plan to return often.
Steve

MY RESPONSE: The writers of Tron are Bonnie MacBird and Steven Lisberger.  MacBird was the second assistant director for The First Nudie Musical (1976). She has written nothing else that I know of.  Lisberger wrote and directed Slipstream (1989), Hot Pursuit (1987) and Animalympics (1979). Slipsteam and Hot Pursuit have plot lines similar to Tron.  The Biblical connections in Tron are probably not by design.  But, they are there.  Coincidence? I don't think so.  It's impossible to be a part of western culture and not be influenced by biblical story lines, themes and characters. Indeed, the truth is out there!  I have always thought of Tron as an important film because it  was one the first to use CGI.  Thank you for your kind thoughts and encouragement.  I really appreciate it.

THE BEST FILMS
David, What did you think of the "100 Best List" that came out today? As everybody else, I have quarrels with much of it. "I can't believe they included ..." "What about ... ?" I suppose the real question is compiling a list at all. What do you think of putting together a similar list of say 50 (probably couldn't come up with a hundred), greatest faith-based films that ask life's essential questions with integrity? That might be a interesting and stimulating project. Perhaps you could ask your visitors (17K already in June!) to make some nominations. For starters I suggest: Chariots of Fire, Tender Mercies, Dead Man Walking, The Ten Commandments, Sling Blade, Shawshank Redemption, Black Robe, The Mission, Places in the Heart, A Wonderful Life, The Apostle, Shadowlands, The Crucible.  I really appreciate your inclusion of the ancient creeds into your site. That is quite remarkable (and courageous). So much of American Evangelical faith is all "me and my personal relationship with Jesus" and is completely negligent -- or scornful -- of the doctrine of the church. In truth, ours is a received faith, both from the Holy Spirit enlightened Word, and from the great cloud of witnesses who have gone before and handed on to us a rich legacy of theology and faith and song that we build on. We stand on great shoulders all the better to be able to see the challenges of our new day. -John Schuurman

MY RESPONSE: Yes let's do it. A top 50 or 100 list of great faith films.  In fact I have stated a "Top Great Films" page that lists all the suggestions of our viewers.   So here it is, dear viewers, e-mail me with your top films and we'll put the list together.

SOME HUMOR
Dear David, We received the following in an e-mail recently and I thought you would appreciate the humor of it. "Dear Lord, So far today, God, I've done all right. I haven't gossiped, haven't lost my temper, haven't been greedy, grumpy, nasty, selfish, or over indulgent. I'm really glad about that. But in a few minutes, God, I'm going to get out of bed, and from then on I'm probably going to need a lot more help."
Have a great Week! Love and prayers, Sister Anne Marie, DHS
WHAT ABOUT LANGUAGE AND NUDITY?
David,  I haven't had a chance to scope Hollywood Jesus all out yet, but I did notice that you accurately pointed out that when people die, according to the Bible, they do not become angels as Hollywood is so often presenting in their films. In looking over a few of the reviews, I thought it would be nice to have a little more information on the level of "language" and the like in the films. Some of the movies in the reviews we've seen and been a little disappointed to have some naked woman on the screen before you know it. Say, what is your impression about that kind of stuff and the Bible? It seems that there are some parallels between movie scripts and Bible themes, but what about all of the language violence and nudity? Just curious to see what you think about that. It seems that a lot of producers are anxious to get that kind of stuff in their movies for a rating instead of develop a cool story line. That would be some good info to include in your reviews :) I'll keep scoping your site out. Thanks for letting me know about it. Later bro. Chuck

MY RESPONSE: I do NOT like foul language and nudity for shock sake.  There are several "Christian" movie review sites on the web that point such things out.  Most seem to have a preoccupation with the exact number of profanities and bare female breasts.  Perhaps this is necessary to keep the heat on Hollywood to clean up its act, but this is not the purpose of Hollywood Jesus.  "We would see Jesus."  In my second line I put "Christian" in quotes because I don't believe being moralistic is the same as being Christian. These moralistic reviews seem to have a obsession with the female anatomy and describe such scenes in graphic detail.  It makes me wonder where these obviously male reviewers are coming from.  If there are any Bible parallels in the movies they are generally blind to them.  I have a few of these moralistic sites listed in my links page.  Check them out and you will see what I mean.  It's really sad.  The truth is the film industry is not Christian and it is not moral by Church standards.  But then it never claimed to be, or even wanted to be. And everyone knows this!  If you watch Hollywood films you will see the glorification of violence and immorality.  Hollywood Jesus is not judgmental, its about Jesus.  Hollywood Jesus looks at our culture and points to those areas that intersect with God's story. I have put together a page on moralistic vs. Christian, check it out.

GOT PICTURES?
Dear Bruce, I entered in your Homepage and I enjoyed it really because I shared your thoughts. I think like you and I liked your comments about films. Since I was child I enjoy Superman-the movie and I love its history and the History (the Jesus' history). Sometimes I thought like you about the Bible and the movie. It is interesting that comparison that you made.  The pictures that you put in your site were very good for the explanation and improve your comments. Congratulations! I ask you that send me those pictures or say me where I can get them. I need those pictures really! I am waiting for your reply. Since now I thank you in advance!
Carlos

MY RESPONSE: Sorry Carlos, there is no place that I know of to get the pictures I use.  I rarely use promotional pictures.   Most of the film images used in Hollywood Jesus come directly from the films being reviewed.  My only copies are in my computer as low resolution files and are unsuitable for hard copy.  Feel free to download my images from my reviews for your own personal use. Simply right click the image with your mouse and select "Save Image As."

HOLLYWOOD JESUS IS SACRILEGIOUS
Hollywood Jesus, I think it is sacrilegious, and depicts Jesus the way he didn't intend to be depicted. Granted I'm sure you didn't intend it to be like that. Drawing is nice, but why can't you draw him as he was actually seen, and depicted?

MY RESPONSE: I don't know what picture of Jesus you are referring to and how would we know what Jesus looked like?

Hollywood Jesus, The picture's that were actual seen of him. i.e. the Shroud of Turin, or Veronica's Vail.

MY RESPONSE: Oh, I see!  I don't know how to respond to you.  I am an artist and a preacher, therefore, I am glad for all the many and  various literary, musical and pictorial impressions of Jesus that we have.  The Shroud of Turin has an amazing history.  But, I am glad it is not the only impression of Jesus we have.

CITY OF ANGELS
Hello David, Well I was with Gayle Logan yesterday we spent all day together and we saw the movie CITY OF ANGELS!! I noticed it also that the angels was dress in black which was very interesting! I love the movie It was very Good and it tells that angels do exists!!! Gayle told me that she wants to see the movie again she thought it was wonderful!! I love the part where Seth dies for Maggie to become human kinda like what Jesus did for us on earth and on the cross! Well I do love romantic movies!! Well I am sending you my thoughts!! May God Bless you David! Carrie

MY RESPONSE: There are so many things in that film and yet it is simple.  There was a scene in the film on how prayers are heard.   And you are right about Seth, there is a small parallel to Jesus here. There is an ancient saying that says, "He became what we are so we can become what He is."

Been checking out your website today, and really enjoying it. You've struck a good balance in the "in the world, not of it" arena, by holding on to truth without knee-jerk condemnation of everything that doesn't come from Christian origins.

    Attached below are some thoughts I offered on City of Angels out on Usenet a few weeks ago. Thought they might interest you.
EDITOR: Click here to go to City of Angels page to read Brendt's review. It is very good.

GRAPES OF WRATH
David, The Grapes of Wrath is just full of Biblical allusions, we are doing a project on Allusions in the book for school, thanks for your input.

MY RESPONSE: Your welcome. Other visitors may want to check out the allusions in the famous Grapes novel.   Look for a Movie review on the film version soon.

DEEP IMPACT
David, Be sure to check out DEEP IMPACT a lot of biblical references. great message and its an awesome film in general.  Hey by the way you still want to do a story on independent Christian filmmakers? I'm definitely willing to help out.
Danial Panzella

MY RESPONSE: Danial: Thanks for writing!
Item 1. Yes, I just saw Deep Impact! The Messiah-ship, Noah's Ark and the President   giving a biblical blessing to all of America! Incredible.  Wow! Look for a review on Deep Impact in Current Films later today. Check it out and tell me what you think.
Item 2. Yes, do it. The sooner the better. I appreciate your offer.
In Him,
David Bruce

Just saw it tonight with our kids. BIG mistake to take our kids. The language was not suitable for kids under 13 or any age, in my opinion. It was very emotionally moving for me, since my mom just died on May 11,1998. It was too scary for our kids. Teens and adults are the best audience for this movie. I was glad to hear the president talking about God and praying to Him. No mention of "Jesus Christ" and His SAVING grace & mercy though. That would be a GREAT touch. But, for those of us Christians, Deep Impact would be a good evangelizing the unsaved and backsliden. I must admit though it did cause me to examine my walk with Jesus. I'd like to see a movie where profanity, sex, etc. was down played more.
-The Warriners

DEATH IN FILMS
David: I'm writing a paper for a sociology. My topic is how death is portrayed in Hollywood. That is, how top movie studios are "scared" to make a serious movie about death. How they like to make everything a "happy" ending. The seem to feel that the public cannot deal with aspects of death. Although foreign films seem to take the chance and make for thought provoking films. For example there were two versions of the movie The Vanishing, in the original Dutch version the killer gets his way and kills everyone, even the '"good guys", however in the American production, the "good guy" gets away and kills the "bad guys." The funny thing about this is that both versions were done by the same director!

Well what I need is some help in gathering information on how death is portrayed in American and foreign films. Can you help me? I really haven't seen many foreign films to use as comparisons. Thank you.
-Lisban

MY RESPONSE: Dear Lisban, There is no difference between foreign and American films in terms of death. There is a difference between Big Budget American film and low budget foreign films. Big studios need their investment back and a profit. So, happy endings are common. However, Titanic is a big budget death film that worked, even though all the critics said it would fail. Perhaps, there will be a new approach to death in big budget films. Deep Impact also has significant people dying in each others arms at the end of the film. In Armageddon this may be true, too. In Twister (pre-Titanic), aside from the dad at the start and the woman in the middle of the film, only the bad guys die at the end of the film. Usually death in big budget films, especially at the end of the film, has to do with a justice issue. Note: death at the beginning of a film has to do with injustice. Big budget films are designed to make money, not lose it. That is the difference.
One of the best foreign films on death is Ingmar Bergman's "The Seventh Seal" (also, Bergman's "Through A Glass Darkly"). Go rent them. Most Blockbuster and Hollywood Video stores have them. Go to the public library and check out a couple of books on Bergman you'll get some great quotes from them. He was the first to deal with death and afterlife in a new and significant way.
David Bruce

THE JUDAS PROJECT
Hey David,  There is a movie that I would like to see reviewed: The Judas Project.   I thought it was very good!   It tells the story of Jesus in contemporary time!  It is so amazing nowadays that more movies are about Christ!  WOW!!!!  Also, please do a review on Jesus Christ superstar! I saw it with a friend of mine it was good also!
God Bless! Carrie Kritcher

MY RESPONSE:  At some future date there will be a page on all the films that tell the story of Jesus.  This will include the two you mentioned.  Thanks for the suggestion. David.

FILMMAKER IN NYC
David,Your site was awesome. I am an independent filmmaker from NYC. I produce Christian films. Your site was great. I look forward to future reviews. Its one of my fave sites.
I was in shock when I saw the Hollywood Jesus sign in the top left corner. Check out this page and you'll see why, read the article. I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
http://members.aol.com/anglprod/thevision.html
I would like to put a link to your site on mine, if that's alright with you.
Great work. God Bless
Danial A. Panzella

MY RESPONSE: Please tell me more about independant Christian film makers. I would love to do a section in HollywoodJesus on them. And, yes I do understand why you were shocked. May God bless you in all your efforts.

GREAT JOB
Great job David! Enjoyed your site. The graphics are lavish and well structured. I'll bet you have a tiger by the tail to maintain it, but if it reaches people I suspect such upkeep costs are well worth it. The attempt to load my comments and sign your guest book failed several times so I am sending email instead.
Blessings friend. Max

MY RESPONSE: The guest book doesn't work? I'll have to check into that. Thanks for the good words. It is a lot of work. But, it's fun and I enjoy it. I also consider it part of my ministry. As you know I have thought about Christ in culture for years.

P.S. Max, I just signed the guest book for you and it worked. I copied/pasted your comments, entered your name and pressed the button and then the submit button. Perhaps the site was down when you tried? No matter, it works now. Thanks for sharing the problem with me. I appreciate all corrections and comments.

WHO DOES YOUR WEB SITE?
Hey you guys---I just found your website..surprised to see David's picture, and realized it was really David.. very well done.. who did your site??? -Berrenda.

MY RESPONSE: I have done everything. Believe it or not, it was this past January that I sent my first e-mail message! Then, at the end of February I am on the web with this website. I'm a fast learner. Books by Laura Lemay helped. My artistic talent, computer background and commercial graphics experience has made doing web pages very natural for me. Also, see the copyright page for a list of all the programs I use to construct Hollywood Jesus.

RATE THE MOVIES
Hi, it would be good for you to include movie ratings on your reviews. Our family does not go to "R" rated movies at all. We have an obligation  as Christians, to participate in the viewing of all entertainment as though Christ was sitting in that movie seat or couch right next to us. If a story line includes language or behavior or situations which we would not want Christ to see or be a part of, then we believe that it is not right for our family to be a part of!! We have never viewed the portrayal of sin for entertainment purposes as a healthy alternative for boredom! Thank you, Mrs. C

MY RESPONSE: Ouch! What a zinger! That hurt! But, good for you. Family is always first next to Christ. I thank God for your wonderful commitment. There is a lot of garbage out there. Why bring it into our homes? I agree to some extent with you. My purpose, however, is not to be family guide. There are web sites for that. I am surprised you evaluated all my hard work and study by that criteria. My purpose is to use the popular media to help people know the Lord. And, I do watch R rated movies with Christ sitting right there! Praise God. A real sinner, wine bibber and publican outreach opportunity! Jesus is pleased and smiles on me. Just as Jesus smiles on you in your excellent commitment as a loving and caring mother. May God bless you, my dear sister in Christ. David (by God's grace).

REPLY: Hi David, I did not mean to evaluate your hard work in any light, other than the fact that I spent a moment this morning on your website! When I noticed the lack of movie ratings, I wanted to bring it up to you- I CERTAINLY DID NOT MEAN TO ZING YOU OR TO OFFEND!! I apologize to you if I gave that impression!  My husband and I do feel very strongly however, about the entertainment we participate in (he works in the industry) and we do share our views with others on a regular basis. I do appreciate the obvious hard work that you put forth on this website. Best of luck to you!

HOLLYWOOD JESUS -BEST OF THE NET
From: Roger Scott filmbuffs.guide@miningco.com
Organization: Film Buffs / The Mining Company
Hi there, I found your site, courtesy of CovNet.(Brad Boydston) I've adding a link on my site for you (on the Film Buffs community page and the 'Reviews' link library. You've done a very very nice job. I'll be sending you a Best Of The Net button from my site for March (as soon as the art department releases them).--Roger Scott http://filmbuffs.miningco.com

RESPONSE: Thanks for your kindness Roger. I am really honored.  I really like your filmbuff site. We have a lot of mutual interest -radio, film, humor. Yes, I have linked back ;-) In fact, you gave me good reason to start a links page.

MOVIES ARE MORE SPIRITUAL
Dear David, It is so amazing to me David how you can connect Hollywood with Jesus.  More and more movies that are coming out that are spiritual! I think its great that more movies are connected with God and Jesus.  Amazing, really amazing! Thanks for opening my eyes to see! Your doing a outstanding job Keep it up! Blessings to you! Carrie Kritcher
DAVID W.  SENDS THIS FROM
Christianity Online COnnection

February 27, 1998
http://www.christianityonline.net
AOL keyword: CO 
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Vol. 3, Issue 9
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OPEN LINE
"...they are not of the world any more than I am of the world. My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. They are not of the world, even as I am not of it. Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth," John 17:14-17 (NIV).

After reading the article, "Two Vegetables with Big Ideas" in the current issue of Computing Today (see "What's New," below), something that stands out to me is VeggieTales creator Phil Vischer's vision for his animations. He quotes Roaring Lambs author Bob Briner in his assessment of Hollywood and the media, and says, "Churches focus on sending missionaries overseas, but never to Hollywood." Vischer is doing his part to reach the world, particularly children, for Christ through VeggieTales or various media.

There are newspaper columnists, politicians, writers, actors, athletes, and other public figures who are Christians. However, it seems to me that the number of Christians in mainstream media is still small.

I remember when the controversy over the TV show Ellen was in full-swing, and a Christian leader was quoted as saying he'd like to see a television show about a conservative Christian, instead of so many out there that portray characters with non-Christian values. The response he got was, "Why not?"

Indeed, why not? Who or what is to stop Christians from penetrating the mainstream, secular media with their thoughts, ideas, and opinions about life?

"We are reluctant to urge our children to be excellent photojournalists, film makers, TV reporters, computer game programmers, or writers -- but we love to send them on a missions trip," says the Computing Today article. Without diminishing the overwhelming need for missions in other countries around the world, let us not forget the need for a mission here in our own backyard --on our television sets, radios, and online.

In Christ,
- Tina Kirsh, editor
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