The Ten Commandments - Updated (2006)
The Ten Commandments. A film full of splendor, color, life, and excitement. It’s an epic telling of a classic tale that’s breath taking in its scope and spectacle…oh, wait, that was fifty years ago. This new version of The Ten Commandments that aired on ABC last night and again tonight is none of those things. In fact, I can think of exactly two words to describe this new made for TV version; drab and boring.
Now one of the major concerns a lot of people seemed to have about this new version of The Ten Commandments was how true to the Bible it would be. Well, it’s not any more or less faithful than the version made in 1956. Both versions take dramatic license with the story, just in different parts of the story. However, faithfulness to the scripture isn’t the primary concern here. I know that’s an odd statement to make, but there’s a bigger problem to worry about with this new version; is anyone going to want to watch it? The story of Moses is one of the most epic tales in all of history. It’s a story filled with amazing, astounding events that surround the compelling story of an ordinary man sent to do the impossible; take on one of the most powerful rulers in the world and get him to relinquish his power. Yet the version I watched last night didn’t even begin to compare to the true story of Moses; it was small, dull, underwhelming and boring. Here’s just a quick list of some of its shortcomings: The glory of Egypt wasn’t all that glorious. In fact, Egypt looked like a backwater desert village instead of one of the most powerful civilizations in the world (and is it just me, or did all the palace scenes with pharaoh look like they were filmed on the same set with rearranged furniture and slightly different camera angles to convince us they were in different rooms?) Moses moped about with hardly any emotion at all. Even his “Braveheart� speeches lacked any real power. Not that I’m suggesting that the portrayal of Moses needs to be one of a confident, heroic stud like the Charlton Heston version. I could buy a darker, more brooding version of Moses…if it was portrayed properly. Dark and brooding doesn’t mean lacking energy, intensity or emotion. Christian Bale perhaps demonstrated this best in the recent Batman Begins. The special effects were underwhelming at best, and the miraculous, devastating plagues that eventually brought Egypt to its knees were glossed over so quickly that one barely had any understanding of what was going on, or of why they were such a big deal. Pharaoh, for some reason, was a simpering weakling who wasn’t intimidating at all. I had a hard time buying that he was the imposing, powerful leader of one of the most glorious nations in the ancient world. Why Moses was worried about confronting him is a complete mystery. This list goes on, but I think you get the idea.
In every way possible, The Ten Commandments suffers from the Made-For-TV syndrome. It never feels epic. It never feels grand. It truly feels like a small budget, made for TV film. I find it incredible that a version of the same story that was made fifty years ago could be so superior, and yet it is. True the DeMille classic is overly-melodramatic and hammy at times, but it’s a bright, vibrant, engaging, epic full of pomp, splendor and spectacle that was most importantly, entertaining. Therein lays my main problem with this TV version. People already think the Bible is boring. Creating a movie version of one of the Bible’s most well-known stories that’s drab and boring only reinforces that which people already believe. It does a disservice to the Bible and to all whole believe in the Bible. A movie, any movie, needs to be entertaining if it is to succeed, but last night’s film was drudgery. If you can’t even entertain you target audience (which in this case I would assume would have to be Christians), you can’t expect anyone else to enjoy it either. The worst part is we still have whole two-hours to go tonight before we get to the end. If you want to learn about the story of Moses and the Exodus of Israel from Egypt, I suggest you actually read the Bible. Trust me; it’s much more exciting than what was on TV. However, if you truly want to see a version of The Ten Commandments, do yourself a favor; go rent the ’56 DeMille classic.
Well, last night The Ten Commandments came to an end on ABC, and I can’t say that the second half (or at least the hour of it that I actually watched) improved any on the first half. Things still plodded along as the Israelites trudged through the desert to the Promised Land. God still seemed to take the brunt of the blame for all the bad stuff that happened, and Moses seemed to get most of the credit for anything good that happened. Intense violence during a battle scene did little to up the emotion stakes, but probably seemed like a good idea to the producers, because hey, any time you include a battle scene with gratuitous violence and blood ala Braveheart, The Lord of the Rings, or Gladiator it’s obvious that your film is intense and takes itself seriously. Perhaps that’s the problem with this new version of The Ten Commandments; it’s takes itself so seriously that it never realizes just how boring it really is. The Bible says the word of God is living and active, but I failed to see any life in The Ten Commandments. It will forever be a mystery to me how the stories of the Bible, some of the most epic, amazing, intense, dramatic, funny, adventurous stories ever told could be so notoriously difficult to properly display on screen.
Now one of the major concerns a lot of people seemed to have about this new version of The Ten Commandments was how true to the Bible it would be. Well, it’s not any more or less faithful than the version made in 1956. Both versions take dramatic license with the story, just in different parts of the story. However, faithfulness to the scripture isn’t the primary concern here. I know that’s an odd statement to make, but there’s a bigger problem to worry about with this new version; is anyone going to want to watch it? The story of Moses is one of the most epic tales in all of history. It’s a story filled with amazing, astounding events that surround the compelling story of an ordinary man sent to do the impossible; take on one of the most powerful rulers in the world and get him to relinquish his power. Yet the version I watched last night didn’t even begin to compare to the true story of Moses; it was small, dull, underwhelming and boring. Here’s just a quick list of some of its shortcomings: The glory of Egypt wasn’t all that glorious. In fact, Egypt looked like a backwater desert village instead of one of the most powerful civilizations in the world (and is it just me, or did all the palace scenes with pharaoh look like they were filmed on the same set with rearranged furniture and slightly different camera angles to convince us they were in different rooms?) Moses moped about with hardly any emotion at all. Even his “Braveheart� speeches lacked any real power. Not that I’m suggesting that the portrayal of Moses needs to be one of a confident, heroic stud like the Charlton Heston version. I could buy a darker, more brooding version of Moses…if it was portrayed properly. Dark and brooding doesn’t mean lacking energy, intensity or emotion. Christian Bale perhaps demonstrated this best in the recent Batman Begins. The special effects were underwhelming at best, and the miraculous, devastating plagues that eventually brought Egypt to its knees were glossed over so quickly that one barely had any understanding of what was going on, or of why they were such a big deal. Pharaoh, for some reason, was a simpering weakling who wasn’t intimidating at all. I had a hard time buying that he was the imposing, powerful leader of one of the most glorious nations in the ancient world. Why Moses was worried about confronting him is a complete mystery. This list goes on, but I think you get the idea.
In every way possible, The Ten Commandments suffers from the Made-For-TV syndrome. It never feels epic. It never feels grand. It truly feels like a small budget, made for TV film. I find it incredible that a version of the same story that was made fifty years ago could be so superior, and yet it is. True the DeMille classic is overly-melodramatic and hammy at times, but it’s a bright, vibrant, engaging, epic full of pomp, splendor and spectacle that was most importantly, entertaining. Therein lays my main problem with this TV version. People already think the Bible is boring. Creating a movie version of one of the Bible’s most well-known stories that’s drab and boring only reinforces that which people already believe. It does a disservice to the Bible and to all whole believe in the Bible. A movie, any movie, needs to be entertaining if it is to succeed, but last night’s film was drudgery. If you can’t even entertain you target audience (which in this case I would assume would have to be Christians), you can’t expect anyone else to enjoy it either. The worst part is we still have whole two-hours to go tonight before we get to the end. If you want to learn about the story of Moses and the Exodus of Israel from Egypt, I suggest you actually read the Bible. Trust me; it’s much more exciting than what was on TV. However, if you truly want to see a version of The Ten Commandments, do yourself a favor; go rent the ’56 DeMille classic.
Well, last night The Ten Commandments came to an end on ABC, and I can’t say that the second half (or at least the hour of it that I actually watched) improved any on the first half. Things still plodded along as the Israelites trudged through the desert to the Promised Land. God still seemed to take the brunt of the blame for all the bad stuff that happened, and Moses seemed to get most of the credit for anything good that happened. Intense violence during a battle scene did little to up the emotion stakes, but probably seemed like a good idea to the producers, because hey, any time you include a battle scene with gratuitous violence and blood ala Braveheart, The Lord of the Rings, or Gladiator it’s obvious that your film is intense and takes itself seriously. Perhaps that’s the problem with this new version of The Ten Commandments; it’s takes itself so seriously that it never realizes just how boring it really is. The Bible says the word of God is living and active, but I failed to see any life in The Ten Commandments. It will forever be a mystery to me how the stories of the Bible, some of the most epic, amazing, intense, dramatic, funny, adventurous stories ever told could be so notoriously difficult to properly display on screen.
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Well, Yo's review hits the nail on the head.
I am a Synagogue Cantor and clergyman and a believer too ... aside from all of the commercials every 10 minutes ... watching this version was basically painful. I won't add to Yo's review ... he says it all and the New York Times review a few days ago was about the same. Nevertheless, I'll give you my two shekels worth, especially one day before Pesach (Passover). Moishe (Moses) is a complex person who is transformed by his experience of God, notwithstanding the miraculous events which transpire. In watching the film we also need to be effected, inspired and overwhelmed by God. Does this happen? That is the question one needs to ask oneself... because our reaction to these events also determines our reaction, later, to the very One Who spoke from the burning bush, who is that very One, the Messiah who came suddenly into His temple in Jerusalem to teach and cleanse it. Jewish tradition teaches that the burning bush represents Israel, burning, persecuted, tried, tested ... yet not consumed. So then, the Messiah speaks out of and through that bush.
Once we are transformed by a good film, it speaks through us when we relate it to others. Does this film inspire us to allow God to speak through us about Himself?
Such is its test. Yo feels that it does not ... perhaps he is correct for this film. The Cecil B. DeMille epic is the one which inspires us to ask on the Passover at the Seder,"Why is this night different from all other nights?" When we meet our Messiah Yeshua as Moses met Him at the burning bush, and accept Him as Moses did, we will have the Answer to that question and ultimately be prepared for the greatest Exodus to come ... THE RAPTURE, WHICH is imminent. Isaiah 7:14 says that an 'almah' will bear a son and call His Name Immanuel. Remember, Mose's sister Miriam - the one who pushed him onto the Nile river in his little 'tevah' (ark) is called an 'almah' in Hebrew. I'm pretty sure, she was a virgin, and so then, fulfilled Jewish prophecy points to the Messiah as ultimately being the one who parted that Red Sea. Moses at the Burning Bush met the One who would later say:"Before Abraham was, I AM." He too will be watching Part two (tonight) ... although He already knows the outcome. Better though .... He is watching and beckoning us to accept Him as our Adonai (Lord) and Moshia (Saviour), before He shouts with a loud voice to take us up. Enjoy part two tonight. Shalom and Happy Passover!
God bless you Yo, and all of the brothers at Hollywood Yeshua.com
the chazzan
Well, I certainly appreciate the insight and feedback. There is so much in the story of Moses that is relevant and that resonates with all those who follow Christ today. To make a film that depicts those events as so underwhelming and drab just seems like such an injustice. We've been studying this very story in our church, and it's so amazing. Perhaps some day the story will be done properly on the big or small screen, but this wasn't that day
Let Speilberg take a crack at it with the realism of 'Saving Private Ryan'. (He only took on 'Prince of Egypt' so far). If he would have tackled the 10 Commandments instead of Munich (which was NOT received well in Israel) we might have an interesting film. He better get cracking if he wants to beat Mel Gibson to the Red Sea (hint, hint).
Let me begin by saying I am a Sr. Citizen and a devoted born-again "practicing" Christian. I have seen the Charlton Heston Moses a number of times and thoroughly enjoy the movie very much. However, it was while watching part 1 of the 2006 TV version of The Ten Commandments last night that the story came "alive" for me. Suddenly, I could equate with the reluctance of Moses to be God's messenger, with his plea that he was not capable of speaking before Pharoh or of leading his people out of Egypt. In retrospect, Charlton Heston always came across as a bit "overqualified" for those positions. Also, the slight alteration of God's declared name as "I AM WHO I AM" (heretofore in my experience being "I AM THAT I AM") brought a sudden deeper revelation of God to me. This version is simpler, yes. Less "hype", yes. Lacking some of the drama of the earlier version, yes. But don't sell the merits of its simplicity short. To me, it was far more realistic portrayal of the person Moses probably was, and allowed me to put myself in his shoes, instead of merely being a spectator to those awesome events. -- SGP - Texas
I agree that the concept of a more relatable and "human" portrayl of Moses is a great idea, however I have to respectfully disagree that this 2006 version accomplished that. While there were a few moments when I found this version of Moses more relatable, for the most part it seemed like he was just going through the motions. Perhaps this was due to the quick, short edits of the film. The Moses of the Bible is a fascinating, flawed, intense and emotional character. I didn't really see any of those traits in this versions portrayal. Thank you so much for you comments SGP. I do appreciate your insight and feedback.
"Disappointing" is an understatement.
Robert Halmi Sr. the producer is quoted as saying that he consulted with a Muslim, a Christian and a Jewish Rabbi.
He said "My characters are real. The location is real.As far as being true to the Bible, I had three different religions advising me. There was a Muslim, a Christian and a rabbi going through every word of the script.I wanted to be true to the story."
It seems that these people haven't read the Bible recently.
The biblical impetus for killing the Jewish boys was not some flakey prophet. Pharaoh was afraid the israelites were becoming too numerous.
Ex.1:8 and following.
The Bible tells us that Miriam volunteered to find a nurse for the princess Ex.2:7
The soldiers seemed to be indiscriminate in taking the Jewish childre, No checking whether they were boys.
Moses fled because he killed an Egyptian beating a Hebrew, not because he was defending a woman about to be ravaged by an Egyptian. Ex. 2.11,12
Further examples of how this story missed the biblical story is endless.
The biggest goof, however, is no clear explanation of the Passover, it's meaning and the reasons for the blood on the doorposts and lintels.
How could a rabbi have missed that? The biggest Jewish celebration?
So sad!
Those comments about the lack of scriptural accuracy are excellent. Also, it is quite possible that the Rabbi who was consulted was a Reform/Liberal Rabbi and certainly not an Orthodox one such as Rabbi Lapin or Rabbi Shmueli Boteach. Exodus 2 verses 7,8 & 9 show that Moses amazingly ended up back in the arms of his mother Yochebed via his sister Miriam's machinations. What goes around comes around in God's plan.
Those biblical inconsistencies really should be inexcusable considering the scrutiny given to other movies for accuracy such as Titanic or Saving Private Ryan ... should not a Biblical movie receive the same consideration by the director? ... yet they seem to 'get away with it'. Remember the movie Noah's Ark with John Voight, F.W.Murray etc? It too was a travesty of scriptural inaccuracies ... nevertheless I just watch them with tongue-in-cheek ... and that includes the Passion of the Christ which (let's be honest) was full of the same, not to mention it's definite pro-catholic imagery throughout. It is all fun just the same ... but very serious for the unbelieving who mock the Bible stories just the same. The Holy Spirit is there, in any event, to convict of sin, righteousness and judgement regardless of whether it is a movie being viewed or a tract being read or the life of a believer being scrutinized.
God bless, nevertheless!
I was amazed that Moses looked so similar to the image of Jesus that we are used to in films. For a guy who grew up in the Palace, I thought he looked a little too shabby. But maybe that was to identify with the Hebrew slaves. They looked a little too clean.
Christian game: good word, or bad idea?
By Hillary Rhodes, AP writer
The rapture has come, and the believers have been gathered up and taken to heaven. As for everybody else: They've been left behind to duke it out in a smoldering, apocalyptic New York City.
That's the scenario in a soon-to-be-released Christian-themed video game. Meanwhile, in the real world, the Christian community is engaged in its own skirmish over the virtues or vices of the concept of a Christian video game that involves killing.
"Left Behind: Eternal Forces," which is made for PCs and will be unveiled at the E3 show next month, is a classic struggle of good vs. evil.
Here, the angelic Tribulation Forces and the demonic Global Community Peacekeepers, led by the Antichrist, battle it out to convert secular, neutral units to their respective sides.
Players participate in "battles raging in the streets of New York," according to the game's fact sheet. They engage in "physical and spiritual warfare: using the power of prayer to strengthen your troops in combat and wield modern military weaponry throughout the game world."
The scenes and challenges that unfold -- as players control more than 30 unit types from Prayer Warrior to Hellraiser to Spies, Special Forces and Battle Tanks -- are based on the prophecies from the Book of Revelation as interpreted by the popular "Left Behind" book series, authored by Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins.
On the one hand, it's perfect content for a video game -- set in a fictional, futuristic world with a black-and-white view of what's good and what's bad. Take those elements and tie them directly to the Bible, and now you can market an exciting, conflict-ridden game to the Christian community, enticing them with something that, if packaged differently, might come across as potentially harmful to wholesome Christian youth.
But on the other hand you have ... something that's potentially harmful to wholesome Christian youth (or any youth for that matter).
A Newsweek article last month said the level of violence in "Left Behind" makes it "reminiscent" of "Grand Theft Auto" -- a game well-known for depicting shocking levels of brutality and accused of inspiring hooked teenagers to commit real-life copycat crimes.
The CEO of Left Behind Games -- a company started specifically to turn the book series into video games -- said the Newsweek article was uninformed. He said the game won't be rated any higher than a "T" for teenagers, and that it depicts nothing more menacing than what he calls "Star Wars violence."
"Our game has no blood, no decapitation, no vulgar language," Troy Lyndon said. "Our game does not have gratuitous violence for the sake of showing intestines on a doorknob."
He insists his company has produced an inspirational source of entertainment with a good message, without compromising on quality. The graphics are vivid and the combat action intense -- the kind of gripping content Lyndon says is essential to make a product viable in the gaming community.
"We believe parents need a substitute for the degrading moral values of 'Grand Theft Auto' or some of the top-selling titles," Lyndon said. And you can't get gamers to switch over from "Grand Theft Auto" if you only offer a conflict level of, say, Pong.
Christian attorney Jack Thompson, a fervent anti-video-game-violence activist in Miami, says the makers of "Left Behind" are compromising their values as they try to provide an effective substitute for mainstream games.
"It breaks my heart to realize that the culture has basically transformed the church rather than the church confronting the culture and trying to transform it," Thompson said.
Having litigated and been involved in many cases fighting against violent video game content, Thompson said studies show young people's brains are not developed enough to properly process simulated violence. He thinks the company is counting on a naivete within the Christian community to embrace the "Left Behind" game just because it is produced by self-proclaimed believers.
The negative effects of violence in video games should not be underestimated, he said, even if it's delivered in a box that is supposedly blessed.
"You've got a generation of boys in this country who are spending sometimes dozens of hours a week blowing away people," Thompson said. "Now they're going to have the opportunity to do it in a Christian setting and, you know, where does it stop?"
But it's not going to stop, some argue. Pop culture is there to stay, and maybe you can win out in promoting your ideology or theology by embracing pop culture and making it your own rather than spending your energy in a fight you might never win.
"Rather than forbid young people from viewing their favorite pastime, I prefer to give them something that's positive," said Tim LaHaye, an author of the "Left Behind" book series who is supporting the game developers.
The Christian community has long been leaving its mark on radio, television, music, movies and fashion. Perhaps it's only natural that video games would come next.
"This is just part of a long trend, part of the cultural DNA of evangelicalism, to make whatever it's doing relevant to pop culture," according to John Schmalzbauer, who is in a Protestant Studies chair in the Department of Religious Studies at Missouri State University.
However, enticing believers with movies, books or video games is only half the picture. Great sales or high numbers could mean people just like a good game.
"Whether it helps them actually live out their faith is a different question," said Lynn Schofield Clark, an assistant research professor at the School of Journalism and Mass Communication at the University of Colorado at Boulder, who wrote an upcoming book called "Religion, Media, and the Marketplace."
"To evaluate whether a game is a 'Christian' game you need to ask this: Does it make young people more compassionate? Does it make them more interested in human rights?" she said.
And of course, there's another question: Does it connect with players spiritually?
Lyndon, the Left Behind Games CEO, said parents who have seen the game are thrilled. They say it will instill good Christian values in their children -- and they're especially excited about the "pray" button.
But in the end, actions speak louder than virtual actions. "Left Behind: Eternal Forces" is entering an already embattled world of lawmakers, entertainers, parents, teachers, teenagers and spiritual leaders debating whether killing on screen leads to killing in real life.
Now they can discuss whether pressing the "pray" button makes young people feel closer to God.
"All the words which the LORD has spoken we will do."
Scripture: Exodus 24:1-18
1 And he said to Moses, "Come up to the LORD, you and Aaron, Nadab, and Abi'hu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, and worship afar off. 2 Moses alone shall come near to the LORD; but the others shall not come near, and the people shall not come up with him."
3 Moses came and told the people all the words of the LORD and all the ordinances; and all the people answered with one voice, and said, "All the words which the LORD has spoken we will do." 4 And Moses wrote all the words of the LORD.
And he rose early in the morning, and built an altar at the foot of the mountain, and twelve pillars, according to the twelve tribes of Israel. 5 And he sent young men of the people of Israel, who offered burnt offerings and sacrificed peace offerings of oxen to the LORD. 6 And Moses took half of the blood and put it in basins, and half of the blood he threw against the altar. 7 Then he took the book of the covenant, and read it in the hearing of the people; and they said, "All that the LORD has spoken we will do, and we will be obedient."
8 And Moses took the blood and threw it upon the people, and said, "Behold the blood of the covenant which the LORD has made with you in accordance with all these words."
9 Then Moses and Aaron, Nadab, and Abi'hu, and seventy of the elders of Israel went up, 10 and they saw the God of Israel; and there was under his feet as it were a pavement of sapphire stone, like the very heaven for clearness. 11 And he did not lay his hand on the chief men of the people of Israel; they beheld God, and ate and drank.
12 The LORD said to Moses, "Come up to me on the mountain, and wait there; and I will give you the tables of stone, with the law and the commandment, which I have written for their instruction." 13 So Moses rose with his servant Joshua, and Moses went up into the mountain of God. 14 And he said to the elders, "Tarry here for us, until we come to you again; and, behold, Aaron and Hur are with you; whoever has a cause, let him go to them."
15 Then Moses went up on the mountain, and the cloud covered the mountain. 16 The glory of the LORD settled on Mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it six days; and on the seventh day he called to Moses out of the midst of the cloud. 17 Now the appearance of the glory of the LORD was like a devouring fire on the top of the mountain in the sight of the people of Israel. 18 And Moses entered the cloud, and went up on the mountain. And Moses was on the mountain forty days and forty nights.
Meditation: The covenant on Mount Sinai is completed by a sacrifice with a meal in which Moses and the seventy elders, representing the people, experience the communion with God that the covenant is intended to bring about. The communion sacrifice and meal expressed the union now between God and the people. The blood of the sacrifice was collected in basins. Moses poured half of the blood on the altar, thus binding the Lord to his side of the oontract. Moses sprinkled some of the blood on the people, declaring that it was the blood of the covenant which legally bound them to the Lord according to the laws of the covenant. The people solemnly declared: "All the words which the LORD has spoken we will do." Are you willing to do all that the Lord has spoken to you?
Moses went up alone to the top of the mountain, where as mediator, he would be given the tables of the law. Moses points to Christ, who alone has access to God, and through whom we all gain access through the blood of the new covenant sealed in his own blood for us (Hebrews 9:11-28; 1 Peter 3:18). Moses' sojourn on the Mount points to Jesus' ascension and glorification after he had sealed the new covenant in his own blood for us. On Mount Tabor (Luke 9:28-36), shortly before his sacrifice on the cross, Jesus was transfigured and spoke with Moses and Elijah in anticipation of his own glorification.. Through the gift of the Holy Spirit, the Lord reveals his glory to us. Through the blood of Jesus we now have bold access to the throne of grace and mercy. Do you allow the Lord's grace to transform you in his holiness?
"Lord Jesus Christ, you have opened the gates of heaven for us. May your word and the fire of your Holy Spirit always burn brightly in my heart that I may never stray from your commands.
While I agree scriptual inaccuracy is a problem, I think it's somewhat irrelevant if the movie isn't any good. If this is a film that no one's going to want to see because it isn't entertaining, the question of how faithful it is to scripture becomes moot. While the conservative Christian community may not always agree with this, the fact is that when it comes to mainstream entertainment, it first and foremost needs to be entertaining and interesting. You have to give the audience something that they'll actually want to watch before you worry about whether or not they'll understand any underlying message or theme. For all it's shortcomings, at least it seems that this made for TV movie has people talking about the Bible and perhaps even reading their Bible to discern what is true. You can't ask for much more than that.
As to the comment on the Christian video game based on Left Behind, I'll have to reserve any judgement until the game is actually released. However, the bottom line is they need to make a good game if they want gamers to play and in my experience, Christian video games are usually pretty laughable in how poorly they're made. It's sad and tragic, but true. Even more the movie goers, gamers are a pretty discerning lot and they won't waste too much time on a game that is sub-par. Right now I have my doubts about a Left Behind video game, but it could turn out to be ok. We'll see.
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