The Phantom of the Opera
—Trailers, Photos
—About this Film
—Spiritual Connections
Andrew Lloyd Webber’s The Phantom of the Opera is a hard movie to review. I mean, what do you focus on? The acting? That’s been influenced by years of stage and film actors’ interpretations. The music? Again, this film version is very close to Webber’s original score, used for years in the stage production. The sets and costumes? Sorry. My wife informs me that they look exactly as they looked when she saw the show on Broadway. The casting? Yeah, I guess . . . but why talk about any of that, which was all just as good, yet predictable, as you’d expect given the success of the musical, when you can talk about what’s really important here—when you can talk about what transcends the acting, the production details, even the music—the story. No, I will not here explain the plot, which most people know anyway, but I would like to look more deeply at the significance of the story itself.
Phantom is, like so many tales, about human needs and desires, and what we’ll do to fulfill them. The main character of the film, really, is the titular Phantom. His desires can seem complex, but really boil down to the need to love and be loved—all stemming from his facial disfigurement and resulting childhood abuse. Christine, around whom centers most of the Phantom’s attempts at happiness, first needs to make peace with her father’s death, and later wants to be rid of her “Angel of Music� (the Phantom), so she can be with Raoul. And Raoul—the third point of this classic love-triangle—very simply loves Christine and wants her for himself.
The fulfillment of these needs/desires, or lack thereof, is all initially due to the actions of the Phantom himself. It is he who secretly tutors Christine, perhaps hoping to vicariously win the opera’s love through her gift, and falling in love with her in the process. It is his unveiling of himself to Christine that proves that he is not the ghost of her father, and that starts her on the path to peace with his absence. It is the Phantom’s jealous pursuit that sparks Christine and Raoul’s clinging to each other, and his violence that forces her to choose between them. And at the end, when she is dead, he is still there—like a Phantom should be—loving her, and undoubtedly still regretting that his love was not reciprocated.
As I watched the film, reveling in the music, but also trying to put my finger on the spiritual implications of such a tangle of requited and unrequited desire, I found that my ideas didn’t solidify easily. I mean, surely this film has to do with good and evil, and life and death, and love and hate, and all these big spiritual themes—but I couldn’t wrap it up in a nice box. I’ve decided that it’s because I was trying (for some reason) to make the story be a perfect Christian allegory, which it’s not. It’s close: Christine is the everyperson/Eve figure, trying to fill the void left by her father. She is lured underground by the Phantom, to his personal hell of confinement, where he tempts her like the devil. Raoul, the Christ figure, whom Christine fell in love with on the roof of the opera house—suggestive of heaven, as opposed to the underground lair of the Phantom—then comes and rescues her, and they live happily ever after. But there are holes here, mainly having to do with Raoul not being a very developed character, and with the sympathetic presentation of the Phantom. So, instead of trying to simplify the story in this way, I’d like to just lay out some random thoughts on two things that this film does, spiritually speaking.
First, Phantom makes us consider the nature of good and evil. Like other stories in this vein—Paradise Lost, Jekyll and Hyde, and Prometheus Unbound come to mind—the Phantom is “the bad guy,� but because of the complexity, sympathetic presentation, and motivations of the character, the audience is forced to consider what it really means to be “the bad guy.� Do we root for the heroic, questing Christ figure, Raoul? Or do we root for the Phantom, whose downfalls seem forgivable, given what we know about him? Or is the Phantom himself the hero, the “good guy?� Does he, in some way, save Christine more than Raoul does? Does Christine even need to be saved from him? Or is he saved by her, and somehow redeemed by the end? All good questions, and all questions that don’t come up in stories with simpler presentations of heroes and villains.
Second, Phantom gives insight into what we all know about ourselves: we’re always striving for something, and we’ll go through a lot to get it. Our strivings are often very deep in our nature, and often have to do with father/mother issues, and with love. But as C.S. Lewis once suggested, if we have a desire, there must be a way to fulfill it—so perhaps there is a way to fulfill that need we all seem to have for a perfect parent-child relationship. Perhaps there is a way to love perfectly and be loved perfectly, unmarred by ulterior motives, or misperceptions, or miscommunications, or our past. And, as with the Phantom, Christine, and Raoul, perhaps our choices play a role in how these needs are met.
This, at the risk of simplifying again, may be the real strength of the story: it makes us seriously consider desire, proper action, motivation, consequences—in short, morality. The Phantom of the Opera is a modern-day morality play, hidden inside a love story, with big visuals and good music. It makes us think about our part in this big morality play called “our lives.� And, upon reflection, it will hopefully also make us think about the possibility of all our evils being understood and remedied, of all our desires being fulfilled, of all our needs being met. As such, Phantom truly is an “Angel of Music.�
—Overview—Trailers, Photos
—About this Film
—Spiritual Connections
139 Comments:
I LOVE your definition! It is soo true and romantic! ^^
We Love the Phantom and believe you got him right
Kuda:
Dude, the Phantom has a name. It's Erik. I have totaly fallen in love with him (crazy adolesense *Sp?*) I wouldn't say Erik is like a devil but rather mislead. I've read the book like a million times so I probalby know more about his past than some people which is why I have more of a passion for him. Yeah, he's pretty odd in the book. He's mine! I'm sorry but you hit a sore spot for me by making a resemblence between him and the devil. And as for Raoul, you have him pretty straight forward except for the fact that they made him seem so perfect in the play and movie. In the book, he's kind of mean to Christine. I don't like him so maybe i'm being bias...and this comment is getting too big (huge devotion to www.phantomoftheopera.com) Yeah, if u wanna dis me or something e-mail me at mysticdemon17@yahoo.com
~kuda~
holy crap! It's a super Chistian site! My bad! Curse you google! Dude, Erik is a full out Christian. (unlike crazy Agnosic doesn't-give-a-damn about religion me) The book sir, the book. Damn spiritual connections.
~kuda~
Kuda--
I have no idea when you were posting, so you may never see this. Sorry you got turned-off by the "super-Christian" site, but it's cool with me if you're Agnostic--I was for a long time . . . still am on some things. I notice, though, that you weren't offended by the review until you gave it that "Christian" label. Hmmm.
Anyway, if Erik is a Chistian in the book, so be it. It wouldn't surprise me. Given the context of the story, most people then probably were some type of Christian. But that doesn't mean he can't be used as a Satan symbol in the story. Seriously, you have to admit that a character like that--a phantom, with hidden face, who tempts, who lives underground--has *some* connection to a Satan type figure. That's all I'm saying. Besides, if you reread the review, I was dismissing the allegory anyway. I don't think the story is a perfect allegory--though it has allegorical aspects.
Wish you'd come back to the site . . .
Ahhh! It IS a crazy Christian site!
But I love Erik. Seriously. I've examined it and I admit to being in love with him that's all there is to it.
I've made up a new character that Erik truly loves. Her name is Carassa and I see her as me. It's complicated. I love him in real life as well.
I've fanlisted at least three times. I refused to fanlist for the one for just his physical appearence.
I LOVE him.
And Raoul is a sissy man!
Hey: If y'all are coming from some Phantom fan page, please feel free to post my review (or a link) there. Yes, this may be a "crazy Christian site," but fans of the story may still be interested in an HJ.com take . . . maybe? Just a thought. Keep going with that fan-fic--I love people who are passionate for their thing.
Hey, awesome! It is a crazy Christian site! I'm a crazy Christian (YES!!!), and I'm madly in love with the Phantom of the Opera. What a wonderful, wonderful union of the two! I love redeemable villains: my heart breaks for them. I myself am writing a fanfic of Erik's spirituality and Christine's saving love :) ...I see so, so many spiritual aspects in Phantom. An interview with Emmy Rossum quotes her as saying that the character she plays, Christine, is meant to be Christ-like, like her name. I agree. Christine was, in a way, the Phantom's salvation. She saved him with her love...once he was shown what love was, what real unconditional compassion was, Erik's soul was free from the Phantom. I too have read the book--didn't care for it as much as the movie--but it does give quite an interesting background. Matthew, I love what you do, and respect it a great deal. I actually typed in "Phantom Opera Christian" to find a review like this, and I'm impressed. I would add a bit, though. I think part of the great spirituality of this movie is in Christine's own torment. The director, Joel Shumacher, said in an interview (can't remember which) that he wanted to portray the Phantom and Christine as "deeply in love." I think that comes across clearly, painfully, in the movie, and that part of her inner battle was choosing between the two men she loved, and making the moral decision--it was between the light figure and the dark figure. Whereas the dark frightened her and suffered a dangerous obsession, the light offered safety and it was this imbalance that made her see clearly, logically. Her returning to the Phantom in the end to give him the ring was crucial to her character. She chose life with the Phantom to save Raoul, but even after he released them she came back, as a last act of compassion for him, and leaving him with a piece of her. I guess I could see the parallels with Raoul as Christ, but I think Christine herself is far more the Jesus-central in the movie. She was faced with temptation, and in the end she gave up her life and thus saved both the Phantom's and Raoul's, and she did it of her own free will in a selfless act. I would have loved if you'd gone a bit deeper into her character, because I think so many profound parallels can be drawn there as well--not entirely allegorical, but with shining similarities. I believe I owe a great deal of my passion to my own friendship with Christ, as I see Him in this tale so strongly.
Dear fellow crazy Christian: Yeah, Christine definitely has some allegorical aspects, which I noted very briefly in my review. I guess I focused more on the Phantom, since to me, he's really the main character. And as far as a perfect allegory goes--which I don't think can really be done with Phantom, because the seemingly simplistic love triangle is so subtly complex (whoa, nice alliteration)--it seems that Christine makes a better "everyperson" type than a Christ figure. Yes, she makes a moral choice as Christ does, but I don't see hers as that similar to Christ's, whereas it is similar to the kinds of good vs. evil moral choices that we all make. Like I said, though, this movie really can't be perfectly allegorized. In a sense, each of the three main characters saves the others. Each of them is sacrificial in a way, and each needs to be saved in a way at some point in the story . . . this is what makes it so interesting, yet so elusive when it comes to typing everything. That's why I didn't insist on the allegory in my review, but instead focused on the comments in my last several paragraphs.
But again, you're right: Christine does have those shades of a sacrificial figure. It just depends on what you choose to focus on, I guess. One thing's for sure, Christ *can* be seen strongly in this tale, as you so nicely put it.
The film has a place in my heart (along with Erik himself). you said your wife commented on how it is like the stage show when it is not. there are amny differences and the costumes are totally different, but i'm not going to condem you because i think you read in to it well and as long as you arent dragging it through the mud i dot mind what you say. and i agree with most of the others on this site... i love the phantom!
Becky
xxx
No, no, no . . I'm not dragging it through the mud. I liked the film version a lot. And having never seen *any* stage production--though I've listened to soundtracks of stage productions--I can't really talk at length about whether the costumes/scenery/etc. were very different or not. I was just saying that the film was influenced by the long history of stage productions, that's all.
Can I ask you something else? . . . How did you find this review? Is there a link to it on some other, perhaps Phantom-related, site? I ask because I seem to still get occasional traffic on this review, and I'm wondering if it's coming from a fan community somewhere. If so, I'd love to hear about it. If not, how'd you get here? (not that I mind, of course :) )
even though i didn't read the book or like resaerached him or something, after i watched him in the movie i totaly fell in love with him he is soooooo HOT!!!! i luv him he is like awesome! good actor,hot guy and smart >< a dream guy!!!!!
whoever wrote raoul is a sissy man thats not very true even though he kinda is >< but sissy man arn't hot.....and he's hot too but not as hot as erik*phantom*
but in colclustion(lol)
i would really marry erik if i had a choice, i dont really care bout his face......><
How are you all getting here? Someone please give me the link!!
I would totaly choose the phantom over ralue ,I mean there both hot but come on a sexy guy with a mask and you gives you roses and stuff. and you can play the organ ,sing woooo thats hot. I fell in love with the movie and I am even more in love with phantom.... grrrr yep the phantoms my lover.
Okay, I am not a Christain, but I do love this movie. So here is the comment from a Wiccan! The movie was cool! I liked the Music and the cast was pretty good. Our Raoul was indeed a sissy! The Phantom was by far the best... masked evil guy! wh00t!
My kingdom for a link to where you're all coming from. Yes, my kingdom consists of only about a buck-twenty-five (or so), but still . . . I so appreciate the comments . . . I just want to know how so many people are still finding this review.
OMG! i luv the phantom of the opera! i also luv Erik. he is sooo hot. Rouol i guess is cute, but still a sissy. phantoms lips jus memorize me. Gerard Butler plays an awsome phantom. i also have so many fantasys about him. i luv this crazy Christian site!:*
Matthew--
I found your review by Image Googling "Phantom of the Opera" and clicking an image. This review came up underneath and so I read it because I always love to see what other people think about my favorite movies, series, etc. I'll pass on the offer of your kingdom.
And I'll just go ahead and say I'm a huge Phantom fan, apparently like everyone else. And it's nice to see that someone can actually recognize the Christian parallels this movie contains-- it wasn't just entertaining, it was meant to make you think. So there's what I wanted to say, and now that I've said it I'll be off.
~Victoria
Yes, I came to this site through Google too, I was searching for POTO fan fic though.
I'm really just replying to the person who said Erik was Christian... wrong, wrong, wrong! He was an atheist; he hated God for giving him his face and he believed that if there was a God, He would not have let him be born. Christine, who was strongly religious, became his salvation and made him believe that she was an angel because she began to accept him. In the original novel he ‘dies’ (no one is truly sure if he is indeed dead) not long after Christine finally shows him that he can be accepted into the world and that people can be kind to him.
Other than that, great site! You really got the spirit of the story right, it’s nice to see.
Hi i was searcing for pics of Gerard Butler and i stumbled upon this site. i first saw the play when i was realy little, so when the movie came out, i imediatly rented it. i was really amazzed at all the music,color, and culture in this film. After reading Mr. Hill's comments, i sorta saw the movie in a comlpetely new dimension. Also, my Aunt Jane was killed in a car accident just days before i saw the movie, so i could relate to Christine's loss of her father. neways, to make a long story short, (i mean, who wants to read an essay?) the story was a romantic, touching movie that was an adventure to watch.
Oh yeah I'm just gonna state the obvious and say that GERARD BUTLER IS TOTALLY HOT!!! thank you.
p.s i loved the movie
P.P.s this is a great kingdom to!
p.p.p.s can some one make a list of other movies GB is in?
Oh and one mor thing and i'll leave you all alone... when i clicked on trailers, photos at the top of this page, it sent me to a finding Neverland site. What's with that?
i just remembered. Matthew-
go to google images
click on the picture where Gerard has his hands on his hips and he is wearing a white shirt.
it will connect to your site.
7th grader from NM
Wow . . thanks for all the traffic and nice comments--even if most of them are about how cute some actor is lately :)
Anyone have some comment that would dig us a little deeper into this story? I'm used to asking this kind of question to 7th graders, actually, so . . . have at it . . .
I agree. So, i thought of this:
Does Erik's anger and loathing start because he is ashamed of his face or because of the teasing? i personally think it was the teasing because a lot of people looked deformed at the time...just a thought. i think it'd be interesting to hear other people's opinions on the matter.
7th grader from NM
Is this the only place to talk about a movie?
7th grader from NM
i just had another thought...
Personally, i dont think of Erik as being a bad guy so, anyone heard of Archangel Sandlephon? he is the Tallest of all the angels and he dresses entirely in black. (he's a good guy though)
When i think of the Phantom, the first color that comes to mind is black. so maybe the phantom is a sort of "sandlphon" good at heart but people's first impressions view him as bad because of who he is.
7th grader from NM
Come on people! i need someone to talk to! Matthew Hill,where are you?
7th grader from NM
Yeah, the Phantom definitely has to do with appearances vs. the reality underneath. Even the metaphor of the Phantom living underground, under the mask, etc., underlines this.
As for the teasing or the disfigurement itself question, with the movie version at least, it seemed like the complex arose out of the teasing--people's reaction to and exploitation of the disfigurement, rather than the disfigurement itself. This might give rise to some interesting insights about nature and nurture, and whether things like being disfigured (in lots of senses?) cause issues in and of themselves, or because of how they're reacted to/perceived by others . . . does a tree falling in the forest make noise if no one's there to hear it? . . .
Whoa, I know Kung Fu . . .
Matthew.
I also found this page thru a link in Google, I'm writting from Mexico, and I just want to say that I'm also a big fan of the Phantom. Even when I'm a christian, If he is christian or not is something that I don't really care about. I enjoy the character, the music, the colors, and I guess people sometimes just think to much, and live to little.
The movie make me fall in love with Erick. With his passion for love and hate. My guess is that all of us love him because we are a little like him. Even when our face is not desfigured, we all need something, we all love something, and we all wish to love and be love with that kind of passion.
Matthew I deaply respect how you have been conducting you site. Congratulations
Gaby
Gaby, Thanks for the nice comments, and I think you're right: we can all identify with the Phantom in some way. And we all long for that kind of passion for *some*thing (I know I do). Great ideas . . .
Thanks for responding, Matthew!
While i read your respose to my letter, i thought of the tree falling in the forest. trees are a symbol of life, and no one hears them when they fall (unless,of course, they are actually there). Erik could be a tree, suffering within the confines of his lair.no one hears him, no one heard as the outcast hears until Cristine comes along and "saves" him. the phantom is an extremely complex character and is easy to compare to things in our world.
-7th grader in NM
Ok... i know this is kind of off subject, but why do i connect to a finding Neverland site when i clik on Trailers, Photos at the top of this page? i would really like to know why this is!
whoa... i know jujitsu...
:P 7th grader from NM
Just a mix-up . . that's all . . anyone else want to chime in?
I got here looking for photos (off of google). I may not be crazy but I am a christian. After watching the film I fell in love with the Phantom. I'm listening to Michael Crawford singing some of the songs. I hate Raoul, Vicomte de Chagny.
I think Christine should have given the ring to the Vicomte and go with the Phantom.
I am curious as to why everyone hates Raoul so Much. i thought he was a great character in the story. he balanced Cristine's and Erik's love and made it,if anything, more passionate. He is a vital character in the story. Raoul protects and cares for Christine, and comforts her when she is in need. and he has a great voice! ;)
-7th grader from NM
Well i found this through google too.I am christian,but i don't care if Erik is.I just want to say that I'm huge"phan".I read the book,saw it in brodway,have the soud track and the movie.I do not hate Raoul,what i do think is that Erik,in some way,loved more Christine than Raoul did.And Raoul knew that part of Christine's heart belonged to the Ghost.If not,why did Raoul left the music box on Christine's grave?Why did he let her go whit Raoul when he loved her?He sacrificed his love,because when some one loves,he thinks first of the loved person.
Great site,God bless you!
Hey, O totally agree with everyones posts, the phantom is really hot. I love this movie so, much but its soo depressing. Couldn't they have made an alternate ending? Lots of people who beleive in the traditional story, don't get me wrong, im not against it, i just hate the fact that the Phantom is left, deserted, alone, with not a single love, and only one true friend, the Madame lady. Does anyone agree with me? Hey, I've got a site in the making, a truly devoted Phantom fan: (i just started) http://i-luv-phantom.piczo.com
As far as to what Phan 12 and 7th grader said, Its not that I don't like Raoul the character, (its really nice how u put the balancing thing, nicely said) its just that I think the phantom should have been together with Christine, that there was some big scene and they realised that the phantom needed her more or somthing, but Raoul has a nice voice, but he doesn't really need her. The phantom has never been loved inhis life!! I just feel so strongly about that. I think that Raoul and Christine might even have been just caught up in the moment of meeting each other again.
o, and i hate the name Erik. It seems so, unphantomy. It sounds too much like a Viking name. It makes me think of that little kids book, Erik the Bighorn Viking Sheep. no offense to whomever likes the name
sry, me again. I just went over wat 7th grader last said again, and the only time Ralph really protects her is in the swordfight. And who said she needs protecting?? The phantom doesn't mean her any harm?? ANd comforting her, well, i guess. I dont particularly like christines character. Somehow,i think shes sort of backstabbing Phantom when she gets engaged to Raoul. its heartbreaking when their on the roof,and thePhantom crushes the rose. I cried.
i agree with anonymous. above 7th grader. im liking these comments form evereyone
How did Raoul loving Christine balance it? It messed everthing up!!!! From that point on the Phantom was out to kill him, get christine, and he was heartbroken. Some balance.
As to what seventh grader said further up (sry, im reading over each one when i feel like it,i skipped al ot of them.) about disfigurement, behind the mask, etc. how his loathing started from teasing... Well, sry if im being blunt but not that many people were disfigured back then. If you were, you were considered a freak of nature, and you were considered an animal, not a human. Like at the beginning, he was beaten, and improperly treated, and it was all because he was different.
I question as to wether the Phantom is christian. does it matter? No. Do i care? no. Does it say in the movie? no. i think its irrelevant.
Raouls not a sissy. He went after christine, didn't he? Dont like his role anyway. I dont care what they say, hes not that hot.
chanae
well that is true he did go after Eric, but as you said his role isn't that great.
somebody write back im bored too!!!!
gerard butler is soooo hot. people say that he did a horrible job as the phantom, but I strongly disagree. How old are you guys neways. im 13.:)
lalalalalalalalalalalalala.In sleep he sang to me, in dreams he came. i have that song stuck in my head!luv it though!!!
what is your guys favorite song from The Phantom of the Opera?
Leandra-
I really appreciate the nice comments! Now About all those questions...
1. Raoul makes Cristine's and the Phantom's Relationship more, for lack of a better word, Big. (sorry if that doesn't make any sense. this is hard to explain!)
2.In those times, the church taught people that god made everyone in an image of himself. when Erik was born, people thought he was a demon sent from hell, so they treated like one.
3. I agree with that religion statement. Religion is not a major thing in the movie.
4. i think Christine went with raoul instead of erik because she was afraid of a life in darkness. She needed the light to thrive.
5. My Favoite song is "the Phantom of the opera" i Know it by heart.
-7th grader from NM
Hey all:
Quite the discussion going (and quite the number of posts) . . . anyway, keep at it--I just wanted to chime in on one thing: whether "religion is a major thing in the movie" is exactly the topic of the movie review above (which is what all these comments are posted about). Now, I don't know if I'd say exactly that "religion is a major thing in the movie," and I certainly agree that it's irrelevant to the story (though not irrelevant to an everyday person's everyday life . .), as such, whether or not the Phantom is a Christian (a question I never brought up), but I do think that this story can easily be read from a Christian perspective--which is what I tried to do with the review. Does anyone have any thoughts about the points made in the actual review?
Matthew,
I love your interpretation of the story it opened my eyes to a whole different side of POTO!!! The review was great.
Human desire. this movie, like Matthew said, is about a human being's needs and desires. the phantom needs Christine throughout the movie. in a sense, Christine needs the Phantom. he has an influence on her, a positive one, and shee needs that to grow and develop like she did.
What other characters grew and developed durning the film? Christine started as a simple choir girl, but developed into a beautiful lead singer. Raoul only developed a love for christine. The Phantom hardly showed any develping, except a love for christine. who else?
-7th grader from NM
Is anyone out there? TALK TO ME!!!!!!
Great review.. although you didn't seem to know too much about the book, I really thought you had it straight with the thoughts on his past. Very acurate, except for some things on Raoul. Conclusion was good, straight to the point. The book is amazing. It concentrated very much on pity of the reader. your comparissons, while not all of them accurate, were very interesting. Keep up the good work, and thankyou for commenting on my favourite movie!
Thanks for the vote of confidence . . . anyone else with a specific thought on the review? This one in particular is getting just packed with comments (which is great)--anyone have a thought on one of the other reviews?
other reviews as in other movies? i havn't really had a good look in other reviews... brb, i'll go look at the others...
they're ok... not as great as this one, tho. i'm bored cuz no one else is talking to meeeee!!!!! helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! i neeed ccconnnversationnnnnn!
='( im all alone... there's no one here besiiiides meee.
Phan12
Ask me something.I like know everithing you need to know!...About my favourite song is the point of no return.I think is a very sexy song,and Gerry looks extremely hot!
Phan12
Taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalk people!
The point of no return is a great somg but it makes me nervous. in a good way. sort of apprehensive... i said this before, my fave song is "the phantom of the opera" ("in sleep he sang to me...")
Hey guys!!! I got a question for you. Who do you think you sing like? Christine, Carlotta, or Meg?My friends always say that I sound like Carlotta b/c I can hit those high notes.
I think I sound like Christine. Not bragging or making anything up, but I can hit those high notes pretty easily, and without sounding like an angry cat (or worse, Carlotta). My friends think I sound like Christine, too. My friend, Stevii, sounds a lot like Meg, except she needs to work a little on technique (she sounds a little too airy and she doesn't use proper support). My favorite song is "Wandering Child." It's just so...angelic. Haunting. Elusive. And I would totally choose Erik because he is uber hot. Raoul is sweet and all, but a leetle bit pansy-ish(well, I guess they were all a bit foppish in that time, but still). And he's too perfect. It's annoying.
Hiya, I also got here through a google picture (raoul and phantom in graveyard swordfighting)
I think the best phrase about carlotta came from another version of POTO called "Phantom"
Phantom: My God, I think her voice is worse than my face!"
I was cracking up there for a few minutes at that one.
i think i sound like christine the most, bt if i want to, i can sound like Carlotta. (frooom our sa-a-a-a-viors...) i have really gottn into the whole singing business ever since i saw the movie. m sister and i sawit atthe same time, so we both drove each other crazy singing the lyrics...
hey.. where is every one posting from? im from the states... any one else?
Hey, my name is Danielle and I am in 7th grade.
Thank you so much for writing a legit Phantom overveiw. As far as the movie goes at least. These are a lot of things most critics glaze over, such as the fight of good and evil, and the actual meaning of the story. I have heard plain old "The lyrics were bad and it was boring" so it is refreshing to know that not only musical fans can enjoy this movie.Once again I thank you!
Your most humble and obidient sevant,
Mlle. Danielle
Oh, and one more thing(this is still Danielle): I know that most of these people posting are movie fans and Gerard Butler fans, but lighten up people. For one thing, he's 36. So get over it. Another, compared to Michael Crawford, John Owen-Jones, and possibly even Paul Stanley(who played Erik once upon a time) were much better singers.Im not bashing, him, but the 'omg hes so HOT!!!!11!!!" is kind of sickening.You know, considering that this was not the purpose of the book. If all you can see is that, then you are sadly mistaken. Why not comment on the lavish sets, or the stunningly excellent performance of up and coming Emmy Rossum?
Anyways.Bye!
Thanks for the very nice post, Danielle. I think you're right to focus on thematic/story/production elements and not worry about who's "hot" and all that. It's funny, but I took my 7th-8th graders to see *Narnia* the other week, and even though we'd read the book, and had all sorts of insight into themes, etc., I still had tons of the girls gushing over Peter (ooooh, he's so hot), and even some boys gushing over Susan, in particular, but both girls once they were older at the end (man, Susan's a dime). And while all this is perfectly normal, it's much better and more worthwhile in the long run to focus, like you're doing, on the story. Hot people come and go, but stories are forever . . .
Yes!!!!!!Very well put!(again it is me, Danielle)
Something I wanted to say...I was reading more of these comments today.There are two aspects of the story I thought might be important to discuss.
#1. The fact that Erik chose to let Christine go with Raoul is such a beautiful thing because it shows how much he cared for her all around well being.
#2. There is a difference between love and obsession. Raoul loved Christine. Erik, I think, was touched by her. He loves her gift and her innocence, but he does not love her as a person.He obsesses over her, which makes it a little easier for him to let her go in the sake of her happiness.
well...i am a huge fan of the Phantom of the Opera and am a christian...which was probably why i was so excited to find this site...well...i have read the book and seen the play(as of yesterday) and watched the movie like azillian times! i read alot of the blogs and noticed all the many comments about how people love the phantom/erik...i did like him, but the more i learned about him the less i pitied him and the more i hated him...because of his evilness and cruelty! in the movie they make you feel much more pity for him and pake you feel like he is some sexy creature deserving christines love or atleast her pity. but really he doesn't show much promise. he is simply evil. of course it is so sad and heart renching how he is born into this disfigurment, but wat he really is is evil, yes he loves her but even evil can love. well...i do still like the phantom but no, he is not anything i believe to be excited about, especially with what he did to christmine and the numberoud people in his opera house. thanks
Dear Matthew--
Your review was very helpful on this. I saw 'The Phantom of the Opera', with Mr. Butler, just last night, even though its been out more than a year. I saw it twice--I was searching for it again today, that how much it had a ffected me.
When I first started listening to The Phantom, I was around at age 8 or so... This was the movie with Mr. Crawford. I think it was made back in 87'... Anyway, the combination with Michael Crawford and Sarah Brightman was a brilliant chemisty. I fell in love with what I didn't know, I only remember the song 'Music of the Night' which has been in my memories for years and years.
Well, living in Las Vegas (not such a great town as you think) Michael Crawford was a huge hit during the 90's. I even saw of his shows at the MGM Grand, I have always loved his voice and music. Sadly, I think he's retired now due a back injury... now we have con-artist that fill his place--about 2-3 times it has been.
Being the hard-nosed fan that I was, I refused to see the "newest addition" of The Phantom, thinking that no one could've been better than Michael and that, I suppose, I didn't like the thought of 'change'. I felt terrible for thinking that, considering on how hard the actors worked on perfecting this wonderful musical. They pretty much got Andrew Llyod Webber's music right on the dot--with a few added additions, which was fine.
I myself have never read the book, until I saw this site, I never knew there was one! I'll go find it right away!
About the ending though... It was rather disappointing. I was hoping Christien would go with Erik. Considering that 'Prince Charming' (how I looked at it which I was biting my fingers in temptation) would win. I suppose 'Good' always wins over 'Evil'. *sigh*
To sum it up, it was a loving musical that I shall cling to for year to come. Never will I let ignorence come between me and a great--or would be--movie!
~Morganna S. 14 from Las Vegas, NV.
Matthew-
I appreciate the review form a Christian point of veiw. I was trying to think of a connection between Christianity and Phantom of the opera. And as I to am a Die hard Christian and Phantom lover (but not in love with Erik in reality), I still love the Move.
_hannah_
I am the hannah on the last comment. I have a question. Is there any relation between Meg and Chtristianity, I 've always wondered?
Good question . . something about friendship, maybe? Anyone out there who's more informed than I am have a thought? (I had to have my wife refresh me as to who Meg was . . . sorry)
Matthew,
You had a great review and like a lot of people on this site I found it through Google Image Search. I'm a Christian, and I loved how you tried to draw connections between Christanity and this wonderful love story.
I have a few comments on this current discussion.I'm a psychology major and I will be taking this view point throughout this comment. I'm a Phantom Fan, and Butler is attractive so is everyone else in the movie business. Anyway, before I go soap box here my comments.
1. God gave us enegry. How we choose to channel and express is enegry is our choice. For most people, they gain energy through being by themselves or with other people. My point is in any relationships if someone doesn't express their love correctly and be too intense to early they will scare away who they are trying to love. (i.e., Phantom, Gerard, hot mask dude, please people!)
2. I don't see what you mean about the Phantom being some archangel. To me this story plays a big part in my Christian life and other aspects of life. In a way, Christian is Christ-like to the Phantom, but the phantom is not Satan he is simply misunderstood, wasn't Christ misuderstood. Couldn't the Phantom be seen as Christ? Raoul can be seen as Christ, but can't he be seen as the world distracting from our relationship with Christ? Yet, he saved Christ, but didn't he kinda have to talk her out of her relatiohship with the Phantom? Do you see what I mean? What about theh other characters like Carolotta?
3. As I said, I'm a psy major, Phantom/Erik is a product of an unwanted pregency from what I know. His mother got rid of me and sent him to a freak show where he was abused and humilated. When Madame Giry tells her story, one can see that the Phantom/Erik is a genius he holds in his hand the music box monkey. He is constructing.
1. His is highly intelligent even at an early age this contributes to this emtotional intentsity and obesssion with Christine. Often the highly intelligent have more intense emotions and are sensitivity to their surroundings. This contributes to the object of this obession Christine. He focus soley on her, and even creates a model of her in his cave. He was a self-taught musican and an archtect, a genius. He was born genius
2. Erik/Phantom was never parented. He was abandoned. He never had a healthy introduction into society. He was conditioned to behave in the socially appropriate manner (i.e., he always had to have his way, he maniuplated the managers, tried tp seduce Christine, killed a few people, hurt people, destoryed proptery etc..) He displays antisocial behavior due to his abandonment and abuse and his bitterness. He has avoidant personality disorder.Once again, he doesn't channel his enegry appropariately.
3. Repression is when someone pushes something into their unconscious and tries to stop thinking about it. Erik/Phantom never displays his feeling appropriately because of repression. He nevers tells Christine how feels about her until the end. He doesn't repressions his anger, which is released when he tries to kill Raoul. His anger and sadness as well as his sexuality are bottled up inside him. (i.e.,betrayal scene, Maquarade scene)
4. Phantom/Erik has a fear of abandonment. He is afraid that Christine will leave him so he takes her down again to his lair.
5. At the end, Phantom/Erik realizes his problems and that is why he lets Christine go. He can't live with the issues that he hasn't worked out. He lets Christine go because through her kiss he realizes that love can be found. He must express this love in an appropriate manner to win it. He has unresolved conflicts with his anger, sadness, fear of abandonment, and repression/expression of his emtoions. (i.e., breaking manners at the end, tears, looking longingly at Christine, and leaving the opera house)
I hope that I have shed light on this story through a psychology as well as a spiritual stand point. I hope this spurs discussion
Hey anonymous:
Thanks so much for the long post. I'm going to basically open it up for everyone else to respond to most of your specific points, but I did want to say: I agree that this story can be a part of your Christian life. I tried to give a Christian take in my review. I don't think the Phantom is an "archangel," nor do I think he needs to be seen as a Satan-figure. I do think, that read in an imperfectly allegorical way, that the Phantom could be seen as a Satan-figure, but I also said that he could be seen as heroic, as you mention. That's part of the fun of this story: the characters can mean various things, be connected to in various ways, and so on.
Have at it everyone else . . .
I apologize in advance for this.
Why do we have to analyze the Phantom this much? Why can't we just make our own decisions about him? You people are sucking the life out of an amazing story! Just leave it alone, dammit!
Matthew,
Great point that people can see the characters in various ways. I never meant to say that Erik/Phantom was any means an archangel I was referring to an earlier comment found on this page. Sorry to anyone for my long anaylsis, but I tend to think about things for a longtime. I wanted to mention also that in this story there are many liberation themes.
For example, Christine is given a voice and is liberated by the Phantom/Erik by given a voice I mean literally and figuratively. She is given a voice to sing with and a voice to speak for herself.
Another example of liberation is that the Phantom/Erik is liberated through Christine's love and kiss at the end of the story.
Another example is that Raoul is liberated from the grasp of death after the Phantom/Erik lets Christne and Raoul go. They are both liberated.
How can this theme apply to our Christian lives.
P.S. Kiera, I know people can be anaylitcal too much, but to some of us this anaylsis adds more understanding to the story. what do you like about the story? Are you in college? Thanks for your comment.
this film was amazing and stunning.I loved it and i watched it over and over again.It was beautiful and romantic.I give it a ten out of ten.
i have seen the movie like 14 times i about 2 months I LOVE IT.... and the phantom(erik) bbut you are'nt giving raul enough credit you say he is a sissy but it kindof takes to for a sword and if i recall raul was going to kill him to win chritine don't really call that *sissy* like. i would choose phantom over raul anytime but come on that just no far to leave raul out like that
Matthew,
Both Christine and Erik are equally complex, however many years have changed their characters, which to me, is a shame. In Monsieur Leroux's version, details and facts seem sketchy, although he seems to have a decided opinion on the Phantom. M. Gaston finds the phantom to be much moremurderous and dark rather than something to be pitied. To those who did not already know, the Phantom of the Opera is not exactly a character. In the book written by Gaston Leroux in 1911, the monsieur took pains to carefully research all of his work and meant for the book to be rather a biography than a work of fiction. He cites several sources, most sketchy at best, but all the same, the Phantom could have lived in the opera house. There are records showing that Miss Daae was missing for some period and presumed kidnapped. However, to get back to the point at hand,the character has indeed changed over the years. The murderous villain has indeed stayed, but has become a multifaceted character capable of love and compassion, with the overwhelming need to be accepted and loved by those who would condemn him "Not for any mortal sin, but the wickedness of my abhorrent face!". This "new" Erik was indeed required. One could not expect Christine Daae to love a cold, unfeeling murderer. She is both frightened of, and compelled to love Erik for the complex feelings he has for her. She makes this war inside clear in her reply to the phantom when he asks her to choose between him and Raoul. She sings,"The tears I might have shed for your dark fate, grow cold, and turn to tears of hate...". Christine would have once pitied him but now his murderous decisions make her hate her "great tutor" So how did such a simple, dark figure become so maniacal, so pitiful, and so genius? Is this just an old wives' tale, embroidered after so many years of telling? Or did this Phantom once exist? If he did, was he as cruel as Leroux suggests? Or, at the other end of the spectrum, were he and Christine hiding a secret love? Or did the story unfold exactly as the play suggests? Christine dying young, leaving both men to mourn the loss of such a great love? I'm sorry if I'm getting to English paper-y, but this is truly an interesting discussion to me. I'm honestly just like you. I'm a sophomore at Milford HS in Ohiowho just happens to love literature. I can't remember a time when I wasn't toting around another book besides the required reading. Among other books I'm as passionate about are Pygmalion, Naughts and Crosses, and the Catcher in the Rye. Reading and learning are two beautiful things.
"Kiera said...
I apologize in advance for this.
Why do we have to analyze the Phantom this much? Why can't we just make our own decisions about him? You people are sucking the life out of an amazing story! Just leave it alone, dammit! "
I think this is why most humans will plummit to their inevitable fate of doom.
Forgive me, I'm about to analyze the heck out of this musical, but only because the messages are so BEAUTIFUL, and disturbingly true.
God is doing his best to try and give us messages through music, movies, and other mediums. Why not just say it to us you ask? Because Eve, Satan, and everday Sin have made the ability to HEAR him directly much more difficult.
If we don't ANALYZE so-called "entertainment" then we might as well sit back and open our mouths wide to the huge spoonfuls of sex, violence, drugs, and money that entertainment is trying so hard (in the billions) to shove down our throats every single day.
Now. My interpretation is NOT by any means the EXACT meaning of the Phantom, but as a person who is fascinated by the Spiritual World according to Christian Faith, so many things are just screaming at us in this work.
Call it coincidence, I call it Faith.
I don't want to paint the Phantom as "The Devil" but the fact of the matter is, the "ANGEL OF MUSIC" in Heaven was Lucifer! DING DING DING! Message people! Regardless of whether the Phantom's nature was good, evil, the bottom line is Satan too was once regarded as the Angel of Music.
That right there sets us up for so much.
Satan, just as in real life, seeks every possible opportunity to bring us to his side, for Christine, it was filling the emptiness left by the loss of her father as a child... if he didn't need the opportunity and it was something else, then why Christine, why not another Chorus Girl? Why not Carlotta?
People who worship and work for Satan will NOT always be whom you expect.. not always that Serial Killer or that person found torturing small children though those are blatant acts of Evil. Satanists are nurses, doctors, writers, musicians, politicians (that one might be easy), teachers, CHORUS GIRLS, etc... what? Do you expect Satan to be an idiot and just leave his plans out for all to see? He may be evil, but he's no Saddam.
Anywho, the scene where the Phantom finally reveals himself to Christine and lures her away reminds me of how God must have felt when the Angels were being seduced by Lucifer before they were cast out of Heaven... hence Raoul screaming, "Christine!!! Angel!!!"
Now the Phantom is explaining the whole deal... Christine KNOWS this is wrong, but MUSIC is a powerful, tempting tool for the Phantom, as is Satan. He has brought her to his throne, where he reigns below for a purpose! Did you really think that is was just to sing to her? To teach her music? PLEASE! lol.
"Your Spirit and MY voice, in one combined..."
YOUR SPIRIT?!?!?! HELLO!!! If things are so SIMPLE as people make this story out to be, WHY (or even HOW... since he had no apparent supernatural power, just smoke and mirrors) ON EARTH must the Phantom use HIS SPIRIT!
Again, many will call it coincidence, many will say Lloyd Webber and the Lyricists had no intention... but this is how God works people. He USES his people to carry the word... just like SATAN does.
He says "You have come here. For one purpose and one alone. Since the moment I first heard you sing,
I have needed you with me to serve me, to sing, For my music. My music." Notice the word 'Serve'. He could have easily said to be with me or to love me or something else, but nooooo. He said SERVE. As in someone SERVING a Master of sorts. Music, being Satan's most powerful weapons, could be interpreted as his message... I mean come on people, who KILLS and threatens just for people to sing their stupid Opera?!?! Deformed, abused or not, that's just outrageous.
And notice how everyone at the Opera Populaire just tries to brush him off, pay him no mind (like some of you are doing to the though of Satan this very second). They act as if he isn't there... they have a hope that if they don't PAY HIM ATTENTION, he'll just GO AWAY. BUT IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY! BEAUTIFUL MESSAGE IN THAT ONE.
On top of that, what Opera house especially in that century would cast A CHORUS GIRL for MAJOR roles? Read up on Opera and it just DOESN'T happen. BUT, if Satan wanted to use someone (think of the movie The Devil's Advocate) he is going to promote them to a point where everyone can hear his MESSAGE (Music). Things will just happen in their favor (The Diva quitting, or sounding like a frog) and people will be placed (Think of the movie the Omen, and Rosemary's Baby and countless other portrayals of the coming of an Anti-Christ/Evil figure) like Madame Giry to make sure that this Anti-entity gets ahead.
Then there's the "Point of No Return" which in the musical (didn't catch it in the movie) involves Christine eating... drum roll please... wait for it... an APPLE!!! Sample lyrics include: Phantom: "What raging fire shall flood the soul? What rich desire unlocks its door? What sweet seduction lies before us...? Past the point of no return, the final threshold -what warm,unspoken secrets will we learn? Beyond the point
of no return..." and Christine: "When will the blood begin to race the sleeping bud burst into bloom? When will the flames, at last, consume
us...?"
I'm not even gonna BOTHER with THAT song... if you're smart, but don't get it after that one people... I don't know if ANYONE can help you...
You know what... there's so many messages in this movie, intended or not, that could help a lot of people get closer to God if they would just open themselves up to receive His message. As I said before, Andrew and others may have had NO intention whatsoever to convey those messages, but that doesn't change the fact that they are there...
Not to scare anyone, but Satan is trying to get at us, plain and simple. He and his minions are lurking behind every corner... yet still he will give us things we regard as wonderful... fame, fortune and our heart's desire so long as we SERVE his purpose and carry out his deeds. It's a BRIBE. Christine's fame as an Opera star was a BRIBE. He too knows that we as Humans fall weak in the knees to the promise of Diamonds, Dollars, Stardom, Cars and Mansions... crap that we can't even carry on to the next life, where it wouldn't even matter if we could.
I don't expect you to run off to a convent or become Amish, I just expect you to take His message through mine.
You can choose to believe it or not, but let me tell ya, I would be so wrong to allow someone who absolutely can not see that very large brick wall on their path to walk into it. If they can't see it, how can they believe in it? Regardless, that doesn't change the fact that the brick wall STILL REMAINS.
I urge you all to open your eyes or allow others to guide you when you know that you simply can not see. Seek the Truth, and the Truth shall set you free.
the phantom of the opera was the best movie ive seen!!!!!!! The phantom is so gorgeous yet so distorted and deformed! Hes a genius in every way, yet crazy! He is so flattering and his voice is so beatiful that you cant help but want him!! Christine played such a good role! but it dissapoints me that it isnt her real voice!! But who0 ever it is its beautiful!! I just think it is a wonderful story..the actual song "phantom of the opera" was great!!! The phaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaantom of the opera is there!! inside my mind!!! i love it!! especially when he sings..."my power over you grows stronger yet" because she becomes like possesed when he sings! and point of no return is so beatiful!! i cou;d talk about it forever!! anyways i just wanted to let everyone know how much i love it!!
If you make a point of it to comment, it should be to analyze something. This is exactly what the original blog started by Mr. Hill started with. So saying, did anyone satch all of the light and dark symbolism in the film? It was amazing! Christine was always in some form of white (purity, innocence). The only exceptions being her outfit she wore to the graveyard (black being a mourning color)and her costume as Aminta in Don Juan Triumphant. The Phantom dressed almost except for his mask, a pure and unstained white. And then there was the FABULOUS symbolism when Raoul rode in on his white horse to save the day in the graveyard scene. We later see dead roses in Carlotta's dressing room which are symbolic as only half of them in the vase are dead. I should also mention the religious symbolism as that is where we started. Raoul seems to be a sort of disciple to Christine's Christ. Raoul will follow where Christine leads but also help her. Erik, the phantom, inappropriately was named "The Devil's Child". There was still so much good in him, however his passion and his love led him to make terrible choices. He was also a disciple figure in his willingness to follow Christine and further her career however his betrayal of her trust was more like that of Judas's nature. For those who do not appreciate the analyzation of this remarkable love story, I may remind you that it was written on a multidimensional level and that there are infinite ways to interpret it. Mr. Hill, will you back me up on this one?
Mr. Hill. I'll Have to watch it or I'll start calling you Harold.
hey guys!!!!!!!
got another question for you.
Who is your favorite character and why? answer please!!!!!
I have a comment that might get you all thinking hard. If you watch the movie again and pay attention to Meg Giry you kind of feel that she is very interested in the Phantom. I myself am a Phantom fan. Gerard Butler was very good at playing the Phantom. He was so romantic and you just wish that you were in her position. As you watch the movie you kind of develope feelings for the phantom. If you think about it if wasnt for the Phantom then Christine would have never got her big debut or raoul's Love. I mean If the Phantom never cared for her none of these events would have happened. Some people may think he was obsessed but he was only in love. I also love the Phantom because of his sensitivity. When the Phantom found out that Christine loved Raoul he cried. You can almost feel his pain. And at the end when she chose him over Raoul he realised that she loved Raoul so much to give up being with Raoul to save his life. And he cried because he knew why she chose him. It makes me extremely angry that she wanted this sissy boy Roaul over this Romantic dark dweller. I myself am a dark dweller. I feel more secure in the dark. The light reveals all your secrets and I undestand why the Phantom hid in the shadows.
The comment above was by me, Shavonne. My favorate song is The Music Of The Night.
Leah:
Sure, I'll back you up--you're making some good points. But why are you calling me Mr. Hill? I've got enough students calling me Mr. Hill all week, trust me . . . and who's Harold?
hello again! it's been ages since i posted last... i will catch up on the convo soon, but i just wanted to say hello...
-7th grader from nm
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I am very thankful forthe review from an allegorical veow(if that makes sense)....but its such a movie that if you over analyze it, there is no possible way to enjoy it anymore.ittakes allthe beauty out of it.
hey there
i reckon raoul and erik are hot...
id like to see a musical of the book-without messing up the storyline.
the storyline of the movie is good and i loved it but the book is better...more creepy and it tells of eriks talents as being the first ventriloquistand an amazing genious architect-not just musically talented.
Also, when christine sings "i am the mask u wear" in Phantom of the Opera i think that says alot about how the phantom is living through Christine and giving her the praise and success his face denied him.
Lemony