Reflections on "The Devil's Rejects" Part 2
—Overview
—Photos
—About this Film
So there you have it, in my previous post I gave a nearly 2,000-word response to one question: Why I chose to watch this film. The fact that I took so much time to justify my actions should tell you something about the world in which I live. It may also help explain why Rob Zombie had such a difficult time bringing his dark vision to the screen. After all, viewed on a symbolic level, the killers in The Devil’s Rejects could be taken to represent Rob Zombie, himself. Think about it: All the Fireflies want is to be free—free to kill, torture, and otherwise terrorize their community. Rob Zombie also wants to be free, free to terrorize people on screen, pushing the limits of good taste and cinematic decorum as far as they can go. In the case of the Fireflies though, obviously such absolute freedom cannot be tolerated. Thus, a character like Sheriff Wydell arises to stop them. What about Rob Zombie’s situation? Can any freedom—particularly artistic freedom—be absolute? That certainly hasn’t been his experience. In striving to get his first film released, Zombie had to overcome an army of people just like Sheriff Wydell; people who sought to stop him on moral, economic, religious, and artistic grounds.
As is often the case, though, Wydell’s pursuit of justice turns into a quest for revenge once he realizes the Fireflies are responsible for his brother’s death. Eventually, Wydell becomes a serial killer, himself, glorying in every blood-soaked minute as he hunts down, tortures, and kills members of the Firefly clan. Interestingly, Wydell starts out believing he is working in the service of the Lord. He prays on several occasions, calling himself the Lord’s “arm of justice,” and he continues to believe he is doing God’s work even as he is doing things like nailing Otis Firefly’s hands to a chair. Could Zombie be saying something here about the Religious Right’s desire to clamp down on artistic and religious freedoms? Could this movie be trying to warn us that mingling Church and State can easily turn a quest for justice into a vengeful witch-hunt? I certainly think so. The prognosis Zombie offers for such a situation isn’t good, seeing as Wydell not only becomes the very thing he hates, the transformation process also leads to his demise.
Despite his bold statement in favor of freedom, even Zombie seems to recognize that every freedom has its limits. Otherwise, like the Fireflies, our pursuit of freedom will lead inevitably to our own doom. Then again, he could be saying that that the inevitable fate of every artist or visionary is self-immolation in the face of an unyielding society. “Beware all ye who would fight the law, because the law will win.” But surely the mere existence of The Devil’s Rejects is a fitting rebuttal to such an argument. Obviously, Rob Zombie hasn’t given up, and he has certainly learned a thing or two since his last time out. I’m not just talking about the limits of artistic freedom, either. No matter how you feel about the subject matter of The Devil’s Rejects, you have to admit it isn’t a bad little film. The story is reasonably well structured, the acting is memorable, the characters are likeable (yes, even the Fireflies), and the dialogue is often clever. From a cinematic standpoint, the film isn’t too bad either, exuding a cool, retro feel.
However, it is what I would call “over-edited.” Just check out the opening scene where the police vehicles arrive on the Firefly farm, for example. After an ominous crane shot that shows the vehicles passing under a pig’s head nailed to the top of a ranch-style archway (nice symbolism, by the way), Zombie cuts to at least three other perspectives on the scene, all showing virtually the same thing, and the cuts don’t completely match, either. Zombie’s inexperience as a director shows through in these and other scenes, but they also give you the sense of someone who is still feeling out the medium, still experimenting rather than limiting himself to a rigid aesthetic. In this sense, I really appreciate Zombie and his work. Not only is he the poster boy for persistence, he also reminds me that sometimes enthusiasm can be just as powerful as perfection, if not more. That frees me up to pursue my own endeavors without worrying if I get it right the first time. Zombie certainly didn’t, but he has taken a giant leap forward with this film. His experience helps me believe that I can do the same with my own creative endeavors.
So you are probably beginning to see that my experience viewing The Devil’s Rejects was not completely negative. On one level, I actually found the film inspiring, at least in terms of how it came to be. But was there any negative fallout from watching it? Surely viewing 108 minutes of homicidal mayhem must have some sort of downside.
The most immediate effect I can think of is the sense of paranoia I felt walking out of the theatre. At that point, it was about 12:30 a.m. Most of the other movies had already let out. As soon as I opened the door to exit the theatre, three young guys ran toward me yelling. I jumped involuntarily, and then relaxed when they said they had been waiting for someone to come out so they could go in and use the bathroom (the theatre was already locked). Nevertheless, before I got into my car, I made sure nobody was crouching in the back seat.
Being a red-blooded male, the nudity in this film also posed somewhat of a challenge for me. I felt particularly conflicted, seeing as the nudity was always paired with violence. I didn’t want to be aroused by such scenes, but I have to admit that some of them stuck in my head all weekend. That made me wonder: Is it the fault of filmmakers like Rob Zombie that men in our society find nudity—even non-sexualized nudity—so titillating? Or is it merely a reflection of how much we have missed the boat in terms of appreciating the human body as one of the Creator’s finest works? Is it even possible for men in our society to view female nudity without resorting to lust? Is such a stance possible in any society?
One thing I noticed about my viewing experience in this regard was that the audience was composed exclusively of men in their early twenties, some accompanied by their girlfriends. I think this is a good reflection of those who are drawn to the horror genre as a whole. Seeing as so many recent horror films make such a strong connection between sex and violence—featuring beautiful women victimized by violent men—I couldn’t help but wonder if this reflects some sort of latent misogyny in our society, particularly in this age group. Perhaps young men are drawn to these types of films, because they fear women—especially beautiful women—and they get a vicarious thrill out of watching other men subdue them. Then again, perhaps it isn’t wise to write down every stray thought that happens to pass through my brain, either…
Moving on to other spiritual connections, I have already reflected somewhat one what this film says about God in my discussion of Sheriff Wydell. But I wanted to add something more here: At one point in the film, Otis challenges one of his victims to cry out to God for help, to ask him to send a bolt of lightning down from the sky to destroy him. As the victim prays, Otis begins ranting about having been filled by the Holy Spirit, about how he’s been saved. In the end, however, it is all a ruse, and he kills his victim anyway. As I watched this scene, I couldn’t help but wonder why God tends not to intervene at such moments. Is he too weak to respond? Or is he just plain unwilling? Where is he in such situations, anyways? As I thought about it, I began to suspect that perhaps the answer was right in front of me.
In the parable of the sheep and the goats (Matthew 25:31–46), Jesus describes a terrifying scene in which the righteous are separated from the unrighteous at the end of time. The determining factor was how they had treated Jesus during their lifetime.
"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'” (Matthew 25:34–36)
Following this discourse, the righteous are stunned. They don’t remember ever doing anything like this for Jesus. That’s when he delivers the clincher: “Whatever you did for the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.” In other words, every time the righteous helped someone in need, they were actually helping Jesus. As I reflected on this story, I thought, couldn’t the opposite be true—every time we harm someone in need, we are also harming Jesus? If so, could the answer to, “Where is God in such situations?” be “In the victim, begging and pleading for the killer to stop”?
Perhaps, but that still doesn’t answer the question of the missing lightning bolt. We have established that God cares, but why doesn’t he take more drastic action to end the situation? To answer that question, we have to go back to the crucifixion. When Jesus first came to public attention, his fellow Jews assumed he would be just the sort of messiah or savior they wanted: someone who would unite them in their struggle to drive out the Roman oppressors. But Jesus proved to be a much different kind of savior, one who overcame his enemies not by killing them, but by dying on their behalf. Even while up on the cross, Christ, the ultimate murder victim, asked not for a lightning bolt to fry his executioners, but for mercy. “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing” (Luke 23:34). So what gives? Is God just too weak to stop evil men at work, or is something else going on here?
If you think about it, Jesus was up on the cross for one reason: free will. By giving human beings free will, God created truly autonomous creatures, capable of accepting or rejecting him as they wished. But in granting humans free will, he also created the potential for evil; a life lived apart from the wisdom, beauty, and power of God. While the potential for disaster in such a situation is great, if God were to contravene our free will, he would commit an even greater evil by violating the very quality that makes us human. So, even in the most extreme situations where we are using our will to do the terrible things the Fireflies do in this film, God may not intervene by striking the killers down. But that doesn’t mean he isn’t present in the situation, seeking to woo, cajole, and otherwise convince the erring individual to reconsider his or her decision. It also doesn’t mean there won’t be eternal consequences for both the victim and the victimizer as a result.
With freedom as the highest value in The Devil's Rejects, we should probably ask what the Bible has to say about the topic. On this level at lest, I think Scripture pretty much agrees with Rob Zombie. (I’ll bet even Rob would be amazed to hear that.) The Apostle Paul puts it best when he says, “Everything is permissible for me—but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible for me—but I will not be mastered by anything” (1 Corinthians 6:12). As Zombie has had to learn, every freedom has its limit. But even while such limits may look like enemies in the beginning, often, they wind up looking more like a friend.
Let us turn now to the topic of fear: Most people assume that serial killer/slasher films like The Devil’s Rejects play on our fear of death. However, these films actually play on our fear of a particular kind of death, namely, a violent, painful death at the hands of another human being. As West Point professor Daniel Grossman sees it, our greatest fear is not death itself but “intentional, overt human hostility and aggression that assaults the self-image, sense of control and ultimately, the mental and physical health of human beings.”[1] Where does this fear come from? According to Grossman’s study of soldiers in combat situations, it isn’t like other phobias, such as a fear of snakes, which vary according to each individual. Fear of a violent death at the hands of another human is an automatic, universal human response. It seems to be hard-wired into our psyche.
How do we deal with such fears when we aren’t watching horror films? Generally, we don’t have to, because rarely are our lives threatened to this degree. But on some level, we must sense this fear at work. Otherwise we wouldn’t have any interest in films like The Devil’s Rejects. When we do watch such films, we are metaphorically brought to the brink of death and then yanked back again, with all the euphoria such an experience entails. When we walk out of the theatre, we feel like survivors, not victims. Perhaps we even gain a measure of bravery rather than fear, confident that no matter what happens in our lives, it couldn’t be nearly as bad as what we just witnessed on film.
But is viewing grisly, violent, and terrifying films necessarily the best therapy for helping us deal with our fears? Isn’t that sort of like the now laughable "Primal Scream Therapy," which encouraged people to scream or punch a pillow when they felt angry as a way of getting the feelings out? The theory seemed to hold water until researchers discovered that such responses to anger merely compounded and intensified an individual’s angry feelings rather than reducing them. Could the same thing be true with fear? Could watching horror films actually make us more fearful rather than less? I’m still not sure. As I recounted, my immediate response after viewing The Devil’s Rejects was one of elevated fear. But that feeling had dissipated by the time I reached home. Then again, my fear of deep, dark water curtailed my swimming activities for years after viewing Jaws, and it still gets to me from time to time. In that case, confronting my fear of the unknown made it worse, not better.
So if watching horror movies isn’t the best way to deal with our fears, is there alternate solution? Last year, I edited a book by my pastor Brad Jersak called Fear No Evil: Overcoming the Culture of Fear. In that book, Brad argues that fear is simply not an option if we truly understand who God is. Brad begins his argument by stating that behind every fear is a lie. In this sense, our true source of fear is not the pain or death someone like the Firefly family might inflict but the lies we believe about that pain or death. What lies might be ruling us in such a situation? Something along the lines of how we are beyond God’s help, that if we die, we will cease to exist, that there is no afterlife where wrongs will be made right.
The second stage of Brad’s argument is this: Fear is not your friend… Ever!
"Contrary to popular belief, 'healthy fear' is an oxymoron. Fear should never be confused with wisdom. While wisdom tells you to step back from a precarious cliff, fear gives you vertigo. Thus, fear of heights actually increases the danger of falling. Wisdom guides someone who is lost in the woods or avoiding a predator into safety. Fear just paralyzes them or causes them to panic. They may run deeper into the wilderness or begin to act like prey. People who are terrified of predators—including human predators—are more vulnerable to becoming victims."[2]
Brad goes on to argue that our primal fears or phobias stem from our core needs, which may have been threatened at a young age. Thus, if our need to be known and loved was threatened by the fact that we were abandoned or neglected as children, we may grow up with a fear of rejection or isolation. We come to believe that nobody cares about us, that we are unlovable and worthless. These lies are so powerful that we cling to them even in the face of people who clearly love and value us. They also tend to establish a pattern for our life decisions that lead us away from God. In this way, the lies about other people “I am unlovable” or “no one cares about me” become lies about God “God does not love me” and “God does not care about me.”
If every fear is based on a lie, Brad sees only one way out of the situation: through an encounter with the Living Truth, a.k.a. God. “To know him—not as you know a historical figure like Winston Churchill but as you know your best friend or spouse—is to be alive to truth and dead to fear.”[3] Therefore, if we struggle with fears similar to the ones that lurk at the heart of The Devil’s Rejects, Brad is saying the best solution is not to confront them through such films but to bring those fears before God instead, to ask him to reveal the lies behind them, to replace those lies with the truth.
So where does that leave me, a Christian screenwriter with a horror film about to hit theaters sometime in 2006? Does Brad’s book render much of what Scott Derrickson and others have said about the redeeming qualities of horror movies into nothing more than a puddle of self-justifying spiritual gobbledy gook? Should I start repenting now? And what about my own fascination with the genre? Am I really violating a spiritual taboo every time I watch such a film, even a fairly tame horror flick like the 1932 classic White Zombie, from which Rob Zombie takes his name? Or could there still be a place for such movies, even ones as graphic as The Devil’s Rejects?
All I can say in response is this: The older I get, the less confidence I have in any sort of hard and fast moral prescriptions. The minute you say horror movies are bad, ten people will pop up with ten reasons why horror movies are actually good for you, and vice versa. In addition, horror films exist on a spectrum. On one end are those that are merely frightening (like my film). On the other end are those that are little more than immoral exploitations of blood, sex, and gore. (The Devil’s Rejects teeters on the brink of such a definition.) Consequently, what may be true for one type of horror film may not be true for another.
So I’m going to stick with the Apostle Paul and ride the fence on this one. All things—even horror movies—are permissible, but are they beneficial? That is a matter best left between you and God. I think it all comes down to the type of horror films you choose to watch and why you choose to watch them. Are you merely looking for a thrill, much like people seek from riding a roller coaster or skydiving? Are you looking for a diversion that feeds your spiritual impulses as well as your desire to be entertained? Are you, like me, seeking to understand what our fascination with such films says about us as a culture or yourself as an individual? Or is your attraction to the dark side a symptom of something more ominous, an appetite or desire that is eating away at your soul rather than building it up? Only you can answer such questions, and only you and God will know if you are telling the truth when you do.
As for me, despite some of its more gruesome moments, I am very thankful to have seen The Devil’s Rejects, if only for the opportunity it afforded me to work through these issues. I hope my own attempt at honest self-evaluation will help you work through these issues as well.
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[1]http://www.killology.com/art_psych_trauma.htm.
[2] Brad Jersak. Fear No Evil: Overcoming the Culture of Fear (Abbotsford: Fresh Wind Press, 2005), p. 70.
[3] Ibid, p. 74.
—Overview
—Photos
—About this Film
—Photos
—About this Film
As is often the case, though, Wydell’s pursuit of justice turns into a quest for revenge once he realizes the Fireflies are responsible for his brother’s death. Eventually, Wydell becomes a serial killer, himself, glorying in every blood-soaked minute as he hunts down, tortures, and kills members of the Firefly clan. Interestingly, Wydell starts out believing he is working in the service of the Lord. He prays on several occasions, calling himself the Lord’s “arm of justice,” and he continues to believe he is doing God’s work even as he is doing things like nailing Otis Firefly’s hands to a chair. Could Zombie be saying something here about the Religious Right’s desire to clamp down on artistic and religious freedoms? Could this movie be trying to warn us that mingling Church and State can easily turn a quest for justice into a vengeful witch-hunt? I certainly think so. The prognosis Zombie offers for such a situation isn’t good, seeing as Wydell not only becomes the very thing he hates, the transformation process also leads to his demise.
Despite his bold statement in favor of freedom, even Zombie seems to recognize that every freedom has its limits. Otherwise, like the Fireflies, our pursuit of freedom will lead inevitably to our own doom. Then again, he could be saying that that the inevitable fate of every artist or visionary is self-immolation in the face of an unyielding society. “Beware all ye who would fight the law, because the law will win.” But surely the mere existence of The Devil’s Rejects is a fitting rebuttal to such an argument. Obviously, Rob Zombie hasn’t given up, and he has certainly learned a thing or two since his last time out. I’m not just talking about the limits of artistic freedom, either. No matter how you feel about the subject matter of The Devil’s Rejects, you have to admit it isn’t a bad little film. The story is reasonably well structured, the acting is memorable, the characters are likeable (yes, even the Fireflies), and the dialogue is often clever. From a cinematic standpoint, the film isn’t too bad either, exuding a cool, retro feel.
However, it is what I would call “over-edited.” Just check out the opening scene where the police vehicles arrive on the Firefly farm, for example. After an ominous crane shot that shows the vehicles passing under a pig’s head nailed to the top of a ranch-style archway (nice symbolism, by the way), Zombie cuts to at least three other perspectives on the scene, all showing virtually the same thing, and the cuts don’t completely match, either. Zombie’s inexperience as a director shows through in these and other scenes, but they also give you the sense of someone who is still feeling out the medium, still experimenting rather than limiting himself to a rigid aesthetic. In this sense, I really appreciate Zombie and his work. Not only is he the poster boy for persistence, he also reminds me that sometimes enthusiasm can be just as powerful as perfection, if not more. That frees me up to pursue my own endeavors without worrying if I get it right the first time. Zombie certainly didn’t, but he has taken a giant leap forward with this film. His experience helps me believe that I can do the same with my own creative endeavors.
So you are probably beginning to see that my experience viewing The Devil’s Rejects was not completely negative. On one level, I actually found the film inspiring, at least in terms of how it came to be. But was there any negative fallout from watching it? Surely viewing 108 minutes of homicidal mayhem must have some sort of downside.
The most immediate effect I can think of is the sense of paranoia I felt walking out of the theatre. At that point, it was about 12:30 a.m. Most of the other movies had already let out. As soon as I opened the door to exit the theatre, three young guys ran toward me yelling. I jumped involuntarily, and then relaxed when they said they had been waiting for someone to come out so they could go in and use the bathroom (the theatre was already locked). Nevertheless, before I got into my car, I made sure nobody was crouching in the back seat.
Being a red-blooded male, the nudity in this film also posed somewhat of a challenge for me. I felt particularly conflicted, seeing as the nudity was always paired with violence. I didn’t want to be aroused by such scenes, but I have to admit that some of them stuck in my head all weekend. That made me wonder: Is it the fault of filmmakers like Rob Zombie that men in our society find nudity—even non-sexualized nudity—so titillating? Or is it merely a reflection of how much we have missed the boat in terms of appreciating the human body as one of the Creator’s finest works? Is it even possible for men in our society to view female nudity without resorting to lust? Is such a stance possible in any society?
One thing I noticed about my viewing experience in this regard was that the audience was composed exclusively of men in their early twenties, some accompanied by their girlfriends. I think this is a good reflection of those who are drawn to the horror genre as a whole. Seeing as so many recent horror films make such a strong connection between sex and violence—featuring beautiful women victimized by violent men—I couldn’t help but wonder if this reflects some sort of latent misogyny in our society, particularly in this age group. Perhaps young men are drawn to these types of films, because they fear women—especially beautiful women—and they get a vicarious thrill out of watching other men subdue them. Then again, perhaps it isn’t wise to write down every stray thought that happens to pass through my brain, either…
Moving on to other spiritual connections, I have already reflected somewhat one what this film says about God in my discussion of Sheriff Wydell. But I wanted to add something more here: At one point in the film, Otis challenges one of his victims to cry out to God for help, to ask him to send a bolt of lightning down from the sky to destroy him. As the victim prays, Otis begins ranting about having been filled by the Holy Spirit, about how he’s been saved. In the end, however, it is all a ruse, and he kills his victim anyway. As I watched this scene, I couldn’t help but wonder why God tends not to intervene at such moments. Is he too weak to respond? Or is he just plain unwilling? Where is he in such situations, anyways? As I thought about it, I began to suspect that perhaps the answer was right in front of me.
In the parable of the sheep and the goats (Matthew 25:31–46), Jesus describes a terrifying scene in which the righteous are separated from the unrighteous at the end of time. The determining factor was how they had treated Jesus during their lifetime.
"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'” (Matthew 25:34–36)
Following this discourse, the righteous are stunned. They don’t remember ever doing anything like this for Jesus. That’s when he delivers the clincher: “Whatever you did for the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.” In other words, every time the righteous helped someone in need, they were actually helping Jesus. As I reflected on this story, I thought, couldn’t the opposite be true—every time we harm someone in need, we are also harming Jesus? If so, could the answer to, “Where is God in such situations?” be “In the victim, begging and pleading for the killer to stop”?
Perhaps, but that still doesn’t answer the question of the missing lightning bolt. We have established that God cares, but why doesn’t he take more drastic action to end the situation? To answer that question, we have to go back to the crucifixion. When Jesus first came to public attention, his fellow Jews assumed he would be just the sort of messiah or savior they wanted: someone who would unite them in their struggle to drive out the Roman oppressors. But Jesus proved to be a much different kind of savior, one who overcame his enemies not by killing them, but by dying on their behalf. Even while up on the cross, Christ, the ultimate murder victim, asked not for a lightning bolt to fry his executioners, but for mercy. “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing” (Luke 23:34). So what gives? Is God just too weak to stop evil men at work, or is something else going on here?
If you think about it, Jesus was up on the cross for one reason: free will. By giving human beings free will, God created truly autonomous creatures, capable of accepting or rejecting him as they wished. But in granting humans free will, he also created the potential for evil; a life lived apart from the wisdom, beauty, and power of God. While the potential for disaster in such a situation is great, if God were to contravene our free will, he would commit an even greater evil by violating the very quality that makes us human. So, even in the most extreme situations where we are using our will to do the terrible things the Fireflies do in this film, God may not intervene by striking the killers down. But that doesn’t mean he isn’t present in the situation, seeking to woo, cajole, and otherwise convince the erring individual to reconsider his or her decision. It also doesn’t mean there won’t be eternal consequences for both the victim and the victimizer as a result.
With freedom as the highest value in The Devil's Rejects, we should probably ask what the Bible has to say about the topic. On this level at lest, I think Scripture pretty much agrees with Rob Zombie. (I’ll bet even Rob would be amazed to hear that.) The Apostle Paul puts it best when he says, “Everything is permissible for me—but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible for me—but I will not be mastered by anything” (1 Corinthians 6:12). As Zombie has had to learn, every freedom has its limit. But even while such limits may look like enemies in the beginning, often, they wind up looking more like a friend.
How do we deal with such fears when we aren’t watching horror films? Generally, we don’t have to, because rarely are our lives threatened to this degree. But on some level, we must sense this fear at work. Otherwise we wouldn’t have any interest in films like The Devil’s Rejects. When we do watch such films, we are metaphorically brought to the brink of death and then yanked back again, with all the euphoria such an experience entails. When we walk out of the theatre, we feel like survivors, not victims. Perhaps we even gain a measure of bravery rather than fear, confident that no matter what happens in our lives, it couldn’t be nearly as bad as what we just witnessed on film.
But is viewing grisly, violent, and terrifying films necessarily the best therapy for helping us deal with our fears? Isn’t that sort of like the now laughable "Primal Scream Therapy," which encouraged people to scream or punch a pillow when they felt angry as a way of getting the feelings out? The theory seemed to hold water until researchers discovered that such responses to anger merely compounded and intensified an individual’s angry feelings rather than reducing them. Could the same thing be true with fear? Could watching horror films actually make us more fearful rather than less? I’m still not sure. As I recounted, my immediate response after viewing The Devil’s Rejects was one of elevated fear. But that feeling had dissipated by the time I reached home. Then again, my fear of deep, dark water curtailed my swimming activities for years after viewing Jaws, and it still gets to me from time to time. In that case, confronting my fear of the unknown made it worse, not better.
So if watching horror movies isn’t the best way to deal with our fears, is there alternate solution? Last year, I edited a book by my pastor Brad Jersak called Fear No Evil: Overcoming the Culture of Fear. In that book, Brad argues that fear is simply not an option if we truly understand who God is. Brad begins his argument by stating that behind every fear is a lie. In this sense, our true source of fear is not the pain or death someone like the Firefly family might inflict but the lies we believe about that pain or death. What lies might be ruling us in such a situation? Something along the lines of how we are beyond God’s help, that if we die, we will cease to exist, that there is no afterlife where wrongs will be made right.
The second stage of Brad’s argument is this: Fear is not your friend… Ever!
"Contrary to popular belief, 'healthy fear' is an oxymoron. Fear should never be confused with wisdom. While wisdom tells you to step back from a precarious cliff, fear gives you vertigo. Thus, fear of heights actually increases the danger of falling. Wisdom guides someone who is lost in the woods or avoiding a predator into safety. Fear just paralyzes them or causes them to panic. They may run deeper into the wilderness or begin to act like prey. People who are terrified of predators—including human predators—are more vulnerable to becoming victims."[2]
Brad goes on to argue that our primal fears or phobias stem from our core needs, which may have been threatened at a young age. Thus, if our need to be known and loved was threatened by the fact that we were abandoned or neglected as children, we may grow up with a fear of rejection or isolation. We come to believe that nobody cares about us, that we are unlovable and worthless. These lies are so powerful that we cling to them even in the face of people who clearly love and value us. They also tend to establish a pattern for our life decisions that lead us away from God. In this way, the lies about other people “I am unlovable” or “no one cares about me” become lies about God “God does not love me” and “God does not care about me.”
If every fear is based on a lie, Brad sees only one way out of the situation: through an encounter with the Living Truth, a.k.a. God. “To know him—not as you know a historical figure like Winston Churchill but as you know your best friend or spouse—is to be alive to truth and dead to fear.”[3] Therefore, if we struggle with fears similar to the ones that lurk at the heart of The Devil’s Rejects, Brad is saying the best solution is not to confront them through such films but to bring those fears before God instead, to ask him to reveal the lies behind them, to replace those lies with the truth.
So where does that leave me, a Christian screenwriter with a horror film about to hit theaters sometime in 2006? Does Brad’s book render much of what Scott Derrickson and others have said about the redeeming qualities of horror movies into nothing more than a puddle of self-justifying spiritual gobbledy gook? Should I start repenting now? And what about my own fascination with the genre? Am I really violating a spiritual taboo every time I watch such a film, even a fairly tame horror flick like the 1932 classic White Zombie, from which Rob Zombie takes his name? Or could there still be a place for such movies, even ones as graphic as The Devil’s Rejects?
All I can say in response is this: The older I get, the less confidence I have in any sort of hard and fast moral prescriptions. The minute you say horror movies are bad, ten people will pop up with ten reasons why horror movies are actually good for you, and vice versa. In addition, horror films exist on a spectrum. On one end are those that are merely frightening (like my film). On the other end are those that are little more than immoral exploitations of blood, sex, and gore. (The Devil’s Rejects teeters on the brink of such a definition.) Consequently, what may be true for one type of horror film may not be true for another.
So I’m going to stick with the Apostle Paul and ride the fence on this one. All things—even horror movies—are permissible, but are they beneficial? That is a matter best left between you and God. I think it all comes down to the type of horror films you choose to watch and why you choose to watch them. Are you merely looking for a thrill, much like people seek from riding a roller coaster or skydiving? Are you looking for a diversion that feeds your spiritual impulses as well as your desire to be entertained? Are you, like me, seeking to understand what our fascination with such films says about us as a culture or yourself as an individual? Or is your attraction to the dark side a symptom of something more ominous, an appetite or desire that is eating away at your soul rather than building it up? Only you can answer such questions, and only you and God will know if you are telling the truth when you do.
As for me, despite some of its more gruesome moments, I am very thankful to have seen The Devil’s Rejects, if only for the opportunity it afforded me to work through these issues. I hope my own attempt at honest self-evaluation will help you work through these issues as well.
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[1]http://www.killology.com/art_psych_trauma.htm.
[2] Brad Jersak. Fear No Evil: Overcoming the Culture of Fear (Abbotsford: Fresh Wind Press, 2005), p. 70.
[3] Ibid, p. 74.
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Wow. Your reflection on this movie, horror films, cultural motivations, the nature of fear, etc., etc. . . . wow. I'm honestly not sure I've read something this comprehensive on the site before. It really is great and insightful--particularly your personal connections, past history with horror films, current and past writing projects.
At one point, you say that maybe you shouldn't put in every stray thought that enters your head. No, man. That's why this turned out so good. It's encyclopedic, it's stream-of-consciousness, yet it's very organized. I love that it reads like someone who's answering one question, gets sidetracked with that question for pages, and then moves on, only to be sidetracked more later.
The "where is God during those horrible moments" discussion was excellent as well. Yes, perhaps God is in the victims at those times. This discussion, though, is also the only place where I'd quibble with *anything* you had to say. The "free will theodicy" (which you invoke), doesn't totally get us out of the woods when it comes to evil--even really bad evil, seemingly perpetrated solely by people. To me, people are free, but they're free in the sense of being able to do what they want. The fact is, some people--to some degree innately, but with environmental help--*really want* to do the kind of evil portrayed in this type of movie. They are making the choice to do it, and they are responsible, but they're also, at some level, slaves to their natures. Jesus put it (basically) like this: "good trees bear good fruit, bad trees bear bad fruit." So while it's convenient to chalk all evil up to free will, we also have to explain why our wills are twisted to begin with.
All of this will come down to an in-house debate about original sin, predestination, etc., which I think is important, and life-affecting, though perhaps not vital. There are, of course, *many* resources available to look into this kind of thing. Since you're a screenwriter, Brian Godawa--another Christian screenwriter--comes to mind as someone who has some very well-done things on this issue (godawa.com, I think).
Anyway, what a great piece. I look forward to seeing your movie. Great to be a part of this with you, brother.
Matt: Thanks for the vote of confidence. It means a lot. I had no idea how this article would be received. So far though, the response has been positive. I also appreciate you taking me one step further back in my attempt to answer the question of God's seemingly passive response to evil. Obviously, we aren't going to solve it here. But that doesn't mean we can't make some progress.
Hello,
I haven't seen this movie and I probably won't. *I was talked into renting the House of 1000 Corpses and I was revolted by it for a number of reasons:
1.It was a movie about what seems to be the ultimate triumph of the subhuman element, the true monsters among humanity.
2. The movie illustrates the physical and mental weakness, cowardice and stupidity of the masses. They are drawn to their own destruction at the hands of the subhumans, and their mediocrity makes them inadequate in fighting against them.
3. There were no exceptional humans who are able to destroy them.
I won't watch The Devil's Rejects for this reason. *What is clear in horror movies, besides what I just stated above, is that there is no God who will come and save the day. If you aren't the hero in a situation like this then you are going to be food for the sharks. Its as simple as that. Horror movies are existentialist in that potential victims are stupid if they think praying to God or looking for Him to throw a lightning bolt at subhuman monsters is ever going to happen.
Serial Killing Horror genres also point out that the common man is common, weak, stupid, and an embarassment. In these films common people can't even justify their own right to be alive. *Frankly, I prefer movies about exceptional people who fight back against the subhumans and destroy them
You mention the parallels between superheroes and serial killers, you are on the right track, but just slightly on the wrong highway. Superheroes and Supervillains/Super serial killers are Supermen.***If you research literature on the idea of the Superman you will find the polarities. The Superman who is heroic is the example of the Greek Arete, the Beautiful and the Good, the Demigods, the Hero etc. The Superman has the diabolical aspect too as the demonically-possessed killer, the sadist killer who believes he/she is beyond law and order. Gogol and Dostostovesky wrote about the Superman as the Devil Incarnate. The Superman of the "Good" and the Superman of "Evil" are always in opposition to each other.
***In conclusion I won't see this new movie because there are no Heroes(exceptional men and women) to oppose the serial killers. American society is dying for the lack of promotion of real exceptional people.
Sincerely,
Sam
Sam:
I respect your choice not to see this movie. However, I did want to interact with you in regard to a couple of points:
1. I'm intrigued by your talk of "subhumans." Can you explain what you mean by that term? Do you actually think there are people who are less than human, or are you merely talking about their sub-human actions and ideologies?
2. Do you think it always takes an exceptional human--a Superman--to defeat such"subhumans"? My experience in watching horror movies shows me that exactly the opposite is true, that it is usually one of the "normal" humans who saves the day, often the least likely person at that. (Think of Clarence Starling in "Silence of the Lambs, for example: a woman who defeated a killer who specialized in women.) I think this is a good reflection of reality, and that it is also in alignment with Scripture. Apart from someone like Samson, biblical heroes are almost always ordinary men and women who are able to achieve extraordinary things through the grace of God (think of Gideon, David, and Moses, for example). Even Samson's strength was a gift from God. He was not your archetypal, self-built Superman. If you want to take this argument even further, according to Isaiah's prophecies, Jesus was an ordinary man as well. There was nothing spectacular about him on the outside. It was his relationship to the Father than allowed him to triumph over evil, and he didn't have to use a lightning bolt to do it. His disciples, including the Apostle Paul, were also ordinary men who also achieved extraordinary feats through the grace of God. So, to counter your point, in most cases I think horror movies (even serial killer films like The Devil's Rejects) are a good reflection of reality in that they showcase God's grace in difficult situations, how he helps ordinary men and women triumph over evil. I realize that wasn't the case with the victim I described in my essay, but the Fireflies were stopped eventually, and by ordinary policemen at that. The one character that did rise up against them as a sort of self-styled Superman was Sheriff Wydell, and he eventually fell victim to his own hubris.
3. You said: "I won't watch The Devil's Rejects for this reason. *What is clear in horror movies, besides what I just stated above, is that there is no God who will come and save the day. If you aren't the hero in a situation like this then you are going to be food for the sharks. Its as simple as that. Horror movies are existentialist in that potential victims are stupid if they think praying to God or looking for Him to throw a lightning bolt at subhuman monsters is ever going to happen." I think I've pretty much addressed this above. However, I did want to say one more thing: In Rwanda, approximately 900,000 people were killed in much the same fashion as the victims in The Devil's Rejects--at the hands of vicious serial killers. In none of these 900,000 situations did God step in and take out the killers, even though I'm certain nearly every victim was crying and begging for him to do so. So once again, I think films like the Devil's Rejects reflects reality rather than distorts it. These sorts of situations do happen, and God does not intervene (at least not very often). The big question is, why? While the Devil's Rejects does not attempt to answer this question, it at least provides an opportunity for the rest of us to discuss it.
4. You also said, "Serial Killing Horror genres also point out that the common man is common, weak, stupid, and an embarassment. In these films common people can't even justify their own right to be alive." I have to agree with you there. But once again, does this represent a distortion or a reflection of reality? The way I see it, most of us are weak, stupid, and embarrassing at times. And, with a gun to our head or a knife to our throat, I doubt many of us would be able to articulate a very good argument for why we should be allowed to live. But rather than discourage us, it should prod us to ask, "What would I do in such a situation? Why am I alive anyway? Where am I weak? Where am I strong?
5. Superheroes and serial killers: I hear what you're saying here about both archtypes being different manifestations of the Superman. That is what I was trying to get at without mentioning Nietszche. However, this is a good prod to do some more research on the subject. What I put forward in my essay was merely my original thoughts on the matter Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. And thanks as always for your insightful comments!
Kevin
Hello,
I think you have asked me relevant questions and I appreciate this. Yes, I will explain what I mean by subhuman. I base this upon human action as the manifestation of what the individual does. We are what we do to ourselves and others which is literally a fact. The Devil's Rejects represent the most degenerate, vicious, and predatory behavior. They are walking and willing sacks of dis-ease, horror, and terror. A Subhuman in my view is a human who can be accurately described as a monster or bogey man. Serial killers, mass killers, serial rapists, etc. etc. etc. are Subhuman. Whatever excuse they come up with is no excuse as far as I'm concerned. Being a Subhuman has to do with a persons actions. And by the way some of the most diabolical Subhumans are not as obvious as the Devil's Rejects; in fact they can be some of the most successful, attractive, and intelligent people on the planet. I believe in calling it a Subhuman when it acts Subhuman. Subhuman has nothing to do with ethnicity, race, religion etc. It has to do with the lowest, most vile character and behavior.
2. To address what you have said about Samson and Jesus; I strongly disagree. Samson and Jesus, whether historical or mythical (anyones' choice) are Supermen. The idea of the Supermen from the benevolent side of the house is found in every culture. The Superman is a more modern term for people in ancient times who were said to be energized by deities: prophets, shamans, judges, kings and queens, lawgivers, shining knights, classical Greek heroes/demigods etc. etc. etc. are Supermen. Sherlock Holmes, Count of Monte Cristo, Rocambole etc. are Supermen. Supermen are also not always of the religious type like a Jesus. The types of Supermen discussed in literature are as varied as falling snowflakes, but they can be recognized by anyone who cares to look. P.D.Ouspensky in Chapter # 2 Superman, in his book New Model Of The Universe explains the history of the idea of the Superman. The Bible is filled with stories about Supermen. The American Superman of DC Comics is a direct heir to Moses,Samson, Hercules, and Jesus. The writers of Superman have made this quite clear. I wrote an article in a book about how DC's Superman is a retelling of the stories of Moses, Samson, Hercules, and Jesus.
You should also be aware that the Messiah as represented by Biblical characters like David and Jesus are the classical Supermen. Deborah and Gideon are Supermen. The Superman does not have to be male. There are myths and historical accounts on female -supermen too. Examples: Queen Nzingha of Africa, the Dahomey Amazons of Africa, Annie Oakley, and Yi Wing Chun (the Chinese woman who created the martial art Wing Chun Kung-fu). So Kevin, you didn't actually counter my point; you made my point. *I appreciate this discussion because it brings up my question? Since Christianity appears to promote the power of its God to create Supermen, where are they now when the Subhuman element rises? So far, from the historical standpoint there hasn't been any Supermen coming from the Christian circle since Dr. Martin Luther King.
From a historical perspective there have been Supermen in the past 2oth century and further back, most of them are gone. Examples: Mahatma Gandhi, General Patton, General Mac Arthur, Emperor Haile Selassie, Paul Robeson, Josephine Baker etc.
***It is unfortunate that when the Superman is mentioned Nietzsche is the only figure associated with the idea. The Superman has been around since human existence. Actually Nietzsche used the terms Ubermensch and Oberman (Overman). It was George Bernard Shaw who made the term Superman popular. The idea of the Superhero/ine is a relatively contemporary branch or aspect of the ancient idea of the Superman.
3. My response to your third point is 2 questions:
a.Why do humans avoid this question about themselves?
b. Why aren't human beings doing the things that are necessary to bring themselves to a level of excellence so that they aren't victims and they can defeat the Subhuman element? This question has numerous implications that would make the average person uncomfortable. I will add a third question.
c. Why do the masses despise people who strive for excellence and hate those who achieve it?
***Let there be a real discussion on these questions when the issue of Superheroes vs. supervillains (Devil's Rejects) are being discussed.
***I think that your comments in number #4 of your reply are covered quite well in these questions here. The state of being common is like being told that you need to do such and such by your teacher to get an A or 100%, but because the Public Religion (you can fill in the blank here)and Popular Culture says: "Everyone is the same." "Don't strive to be the best. Don't try to be stronger, smarter, more creative, more courageous, or more beautiful than you have previously been because it makes us uncomfortable. We will only hate, envy, and be jealous of you if you choose the way of excellence. Stop! Go no further!"
So therefore, the student chooses to do the opposite of what the teacher told him/her; they reap the consequences of being totally inadequate to defend themselves against Subhumans.
I think Popular Culture and Public Religion with their calls to total obedience, stupidity, and mediocrity are crap!!! I'll take Chales Atlas, Albert Einstein, Du Bois, Booker T. Washington, and Michelangelo etc. over the common any day of the week.
I'll end this discussion with one last question. America, the nation that is so full of pride without realistic qualification. Americans should epitomize the pinnacle of intelligence, culture, creativity, beauty, character, strength, courage, excellence, wisdom, heroism, etc. Americans do not. Why, with all the resources America has is this not the case? Now we're really getting into a discussion.
Sincerely,
Sam
Ah, so here are all the comments! Yes, Matthew, Sam... you've certainly brought up things well worth discussing.
But first, a note as to the choice of the name "Firefly" for these serial killers. (The best authors, such as J K Rowling, Dickens and a whole pile of more serious ones I can't even remember, make a big thing of characters' names - so I don't see why I shouldn't)
Let's roll it around our tongue and consider its components. "Fire"... well, nothing too difficult to fathom here: it's obvious the writer's attempt to associate the family with "hellfire" and destruction. "Fly", though, on the other hand, suggests something light, especially as a verb... something that flies through the air! It also has a less positive association with dirty insects - therefore the subhuman, eh, Sam??
A "firefly" is in fact a particularly beautiful species of beetle, with a wonderful talent to light itself up like a little lamp during its mating rituals. So, on the whole, the name "Firefly" must be considered a positive, even a transcendental name, rather than not... I mean, if I had a tribe of serial killers, I'd far rather call them "the Spyders" (because I happen to hate these arthropods!), "the Worms" (a universal term of contempt), or "The Roaches", shall we say! If they were British and double-barrelled they could be called the Cockburn-Roaches; something like that. Just my whimsy!
But I wouldn't call them "Fireflies" - far too nice, even though the components of that word also have destructive and insect associations.
It's also quite a revelatory insight, I think, into the American moviemakers' take, their view of what I would call "the fire spirit" in humanity... They're always for dissing the fire spirit, as I've pointed out before... (Frank Idiot Miller.) Surely because of some deep "religious obscurantist" urge, as the Marxists might say. Well, as I've said, it's a case of Lucifer/Loki/lux/Enlightenment, all along! If you want to see the truth you have to look in the light. Even if it's a destructive light!
Anyway, I thought I could get away without seeing this rotten old movie: whatever the attempts by goodhearted types like Kevin to "redeem" its message for Christianity, I tend to concur more with Sam, in that I think it's far more likely to be about the subhuman: something which I can do without. What did you think of "Sin City", Sam: were you likewise disinclined to go and see that movie, seeing as most of what it was about were subhuman actions? (I agree with you - it's all in the action: though when you look at real-life serial killers, you must realise that in their mitigation, most are VERY lost creatures, and none have ever been loved, not a bit, I don't think. Or at least they (the more middle-class ones) haven't been loved for THEMSELVES. Ie, have been disparaged because of sexual identity etc.)
I thought I could get away without seeing rotten horror flicks by people named Zombie (who I've never heard of); I thought it was a limited-distribution job. But a couple of days ago I saw it advertised on British TV, so I know this not to be the case.
Oh, and on this note, a final comment as to my remarks above about derogatory-sounding names for (fictional) serial killers. I remember a man writing into a British tabloid newspaper some years ago. It was either the Daily Mail or the Mirror, something like that. In this letter on the letters page, he deplored the (police and media) practice of giving most undiscovered killers/rapists (serial or otherwise, as long as it was a big case - but it usually did concern the serial kind) GLAMOROUS "CODE NAMES". "The Ripper" would be the most famous example, which isn't so glamorous, apart from its connection to the most notorious unsolved case series of all time, but there was also a fad a few years ago, for giving multiple unidentified rapists animal names, eg. "The Fox", "The Wolf", and so on. In my country.
The British letter writer deplored this. He said, that if the police were going to use animal code names, they should call them: "The Slimy Toad", "The Cowardly Weasel", etc, etc!!
I laughed about that article for hours afterwards, to myself, and could only concur that he was right.
But perhaps police didn't WANT to pick pejorative code names - because they thought it would reflect poorly on THEM? I mean, I'm sure a "hunter" can feel much prouder of himself if he hunts "The Wolf" - a surely worthy though fanged adversary - than if he hunts "The Slimy Toad"??
Just a thought medears!
Yeah, lots of big issues flying around in here. I just want to make a quick couple of comments about what Sam said.
1. I guess I'm not sure about equating "real exceptional people" with the archetypal idea of the superman. It seems to me that there's a difference between someone like MLK--who we can almost completely understand in terms of his historical context, and whose faults and ultimate *humanness* are apparent, none of which questions his status as an exceptional person--and someone like Jesus Christ. For me, as a Christian, I think archetypal thinking, especially when done in terms of *story,* a la Jung and Campbell, is very helpful. To me, Christ is *the* superman, and all iterations of such an archetype, before or after, are echoes of him. The Christian story, in other words, is written in the DNA of the cosmos, and we, as reflections of the Creator, cannot help but mirror that story in our thinking, literature, etc. So, does someone like MLK reflect this Christian story? Yes, but I think he and other "real exceptional people" don't quite hit the archetype like the DC Superman would, or maybe Neo from *The Matrix.* Perhaps it's just hard, now that I think of it, to really find that archetype lived out in history apart from Christ himself. Which would make sense, and would relegate those echoes I was talking about to literature, movies, etc. Of course, all of this depends on how one understands the term "superman," so . . .
2. You say that the Christian God is in the business of creating supermen. Again, I don't know that I'd see it that way. That sounds like Christianity works on the appeal of personal power--that if you become a Christian, you'll become as powerful as Christ. Now, in a sense, this appeal is there, and has some truth behind it. But I don't think that's the clearest way to describe what becoming a Christian is about. If anything, being a Christian has first to do with the realization of weakness, the need for someone else's power, and so on. Yes, there are rewards for the Christian, but that's never the motivation. Check out the story of Simon Magus early in the book of Acts--same kind of issue. And this also makes moot the point about there being a lack of Christian supermen today. Perhaps there is a lack of "exceptional Christian people" today, which may be sad, but that doesn't mean that Christianity, in some way, isn't doing what it's "supposed to do."
Great discussion in here, everyone . . .
Kevin, saw this movie 2 weeks ago and just finished posting my review. I decided to come on and see your comments and you hit the nail on the head in a number of areas. I'm glad I didn't read the comments before posting my own but it is amazing at how similar they are. Zombie has done a great job here and this is an exceptional film, your comments are also filled with insight. Good job.
I'd also just like to say that I think your pastor Brad Jersak is a very clever and perceptive man, Kevin.
More pastors like him are obviously needed in America and Canada!
He is quite right that people should not allow fear to rule their lives, because it is always negative. So is fighting fear with fear - namely, "The War on Terror".
It's when people are most scared that they use their higher brain functions least and their kneejerk reflexes the most - and that always leads to tragedy.
And that, of course, is why fear is used by politicians to manipulate the public. Well, HJ readers, don't let them get away with it!
Unfortunately, though, there are fewer Brad Jersaks than there are Jerry Falwells and Franklin Grahams and such.... How can you guys stand them all? How can the intelligent Christians stand the stupid sort? I'd really like to know. (Are you going to put it all down to Christian love and acceptance?)
But isn't it true, then, that there needs to be a new split in the Church - not between Catholics and Protestants - but between intelligent progressives and dumb, superstitious stick-in-the-muds? And "Civic Religionists" as Sam Ewing puts it - those who would mix dumbed down Christianity with regressive politics, to form a kind of new nationalist, quasi-fascist movement in the U.S.?
Hello Kevin,
I was thinking again about the point that you made in which serial killers and the like have things in common with superheroes. Particularly, I was thinking about your referemce to serial killers etc. possessing or thinking they possess extraordinary abilities. *Then, it occurred to me to look to classical literature to see if there were examples of what you described. What comes to mind is:
a. Feodor Dostovesky's Crime and Punishment and Brothers Kamarazov. The diabolical supermen in these novels are Raskolnikov and Ivan Kamarazov.
b. Jack London's Sea Wolf has a supervillain named Wolf Larsen.
c. Henrik Ibsen's Hedda Gabber (1891) is about a woman-immoralist and superman.
Sam
SAM: Thanks for the notes here. You are definitely right about Raskolnikov. I haven't read the other two books you mentioned, but I will check them out. BTW: I'm still trying to clear my plate enough to respond to your August 2 posting. I've been on holidays recently though, so I've only been doing the essential writing (stuff with hard deadlines). Will respond soon. Looks like Liz has more than filled the void though, hey? :)
MIKE: Thanks for the note of encouragement. I look forward to reading your comments.
LIZ: Wow, you've been busy! As to your last post: I'll pass on your comments to Brad. The opening chapter of his book actually addresses what you've said about the War on Terror. There, he does a parody of the "Axis of Fear," as he calls them: George Bush, Osama Bin Laden, and Michael Moore.
You said, "It's when people are most scared that they use their higher brain functions least and their kneejerk reflexes the most - and that always leads to tragedy." This is basically the same argument Marilyn Manson makes in "Bowling for Columbine." Brad gets into this in his book as well where he deconstructs fear: why people use it, why it is so effective, what we get out of it, and how it affects us.
As for people like Jerry Falwell, the human part of me doesn't even want to like them, much less love them. I have to count on God to help me do that.
re: a split between "intelligent progressives" and "dumb, superstitious stick-in-the-muds/civic religionists"--it already exists, although not in any formal sense. However, my feeling is that rather than draw away from each other, we must try to remain in dialogue. Otherwise we could have a very scare situation on our hands. In a sense, we already do, where people with strange eschatological views have such a strong influence on the White House.
Sam.... How "powerful" does a character have to be.. ie, having effect on the characters around him/her, to be a "Superman"?
Eg. I would have Raskolnikov was more of a guilt-ridden neurotic than a superman!
Or... can a superman be "someone who tries"?
(Hey, maybe they fail because they get dragged down by the "lesser beings"... the ones who disapprove of the Superlative!)
Hedda GabLER being an "immoralist"... yeah, I'm sure that's what they would have thought of her in the 19th century, but we can't think the same today... sure you shouldn't shift forward in time a bit, Sam?
There is something that Sam has hit on the head with his very position, or nearly: something to do with the notion of agency....
Of course, if you are a witch or a shaman, this is the VERY thing you believe in!
And BTW, Sam... the thing I forgot to say to you on the other blogs is the Wiccan/Crowleyan dictum (yes, I think he was an old devil but he DID contribute to the modern perception of magick, as he himself re-named it!)
"Everyone is a Star", Sam!!
Not just one-tenth are Supermen and the rest nothings with a few "subhumans" mixed in!!
EVERYONE is a star, or potentially so. All Witches believe this! I know, I got me a manual the other day that said so...
Everyone is a Star. Shining bright!
People lost this idea, though, I think, when monotheistic religion was discovered a few thousand years ago.
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