I shared in a round table interview with the directors of Jesus Camp, Heidi Ewing and Rachel Grady. Most of those taking part were from secular media. It was interesting to gauge their take on the film. Actually it was not all that different from mine in that there was a certain level of distress at the way the children in the film were treated by parents and ministers. Jesus Camp does indeed show a part of church that is alien to many people in the church and even more so to people outside the church. One of the potential flaws of Jesus Camp is that it might be seen merely as an oddity -- a look into a strange world on the fringe that can easily be dismissed. Much of the questioning in the interview dealt with that strangeness. Throughout much of the interview, the filmmakers spent time defending the people in the film -- not because they believe in what they are doing, but because they have come to understand what most people we see only as bizarre.
The filmmakers demonstrated their understanding of the context in which the film is set and in which these people live. Even though they may not be part of that world, they are willing to see it as best they can through the eyes and world views of their subjects. When asked if this were some kind of psychological disorder, Ewing replied, "It's called faith," which I took to mean not that faith is a psychological disorder, but that what the questioner saw as disorder was really something that needs to be respected.
Some of the questions dealt with the political involvement of the people in the film. One question was about what seemed a complete blending of religion and politics. Grady responded:
The people we focused on in our film definitely believe that being politically engaged and living up to their civic duty as American citizens is part of being a good Christian. And I think what makes that case in point is that, in fact, when we've shown the film to the participants and had many conversations with them about it … what's been surprising to Heidi and I is that they absolutely don't consider themselves political activists. Whereas other people with a different world view couldn't separate them, that it's obvious to certain people that their political engagement is part and parcel with their religion. And what's happened, I think, is that it's so married and so dove-tailed together, they don't see the difference between one and the other.
In response to another question about whether the people I the film got real facts or only a narrow set of political views, Grady said:
I'll tell you something. Heidi and I did not engage in political conversations with them, just because it didn't really seem appropriate. But I have to say that I was blown away by the level of civic engagement that was going on in these homes as far as they know all the names and positions of everyone on their city council. They know everyone who is working on the school board. They know all the different votes their congressmen have rejected or embraced. They know a lot more, as far as looking out for their values and their point of view. They know the people who support them.
And we've had this conversation with a lot of audiences that have a problem with what the people in our film are doing. And Heidi and I have told them, "You know, they're not doing anything that you're not allowed to do -- that you're closed off from." They are spending the time and the energy to get so engaged on every level of government. No level of government is too small or too irrelevant for them. For them working with the public library and making sure certain books don't get to the public is as relevant as voting for president. So for them it's all part of the same goal, which is to create and shape a culture that is a more moral place.
Another question that brought out an extended response was whether what we saw in the film amounted to child abuse. Grady said:
Well, you know, that's an interesting question that's come up a lot. Heidi and I made another film called The Boys of Baraka last year and, you know, we spent a lot of time comparing the kids in this film with the kids in our last film. I think that's a very, very complicated thing to make a film about and a very complicated thing to wrap your head around as far as where do you draw the line between parenting and your right as a parent to teach your kid what you think is right, which is what the parents in Jesus Camp are doing. They're teaching their kids just exactly what they think is proper. They want their kids to go to heaven, to live a moral life. And they fell that it would actually be bad parenting to not do what they're doing.
And then you look at the kids in The Boys of Baraka, where a lot of the kids come from very dysfunctional homes, and we spent a lot of time with kids who frankly weren't eating enough, and mom wasn't coming home, and they weren't getting the attention that they crave so much.
I can't answer that question; it's very complicated. But it did raise questions for us because the kids did seem happy. They seemed safe, and they enjoyed the structure, and they were close to their families. And there weren't a lot of arguments. There wasn't a lot of whining. There wasn't a lot of complaining. These were incredibly well behaved kids. And I think that put pause to any question that Heidi or I had of whether the kids were enjoying it or not.
And they [parents] really put their kids on a pedestal. And they tell their kids and they believe that their kids have something to do with the second coming of Christ. That's very empowering for a child. I mean, that would be empowering for adults as well.
Ewing added:
What was really interesting, and we tried to show in the film with the way we edited it, was that after these revival meetings where there would be the tears, and the writhing on the floor, and things that disturb a lot of viewers, literally, when the session would end, two or three minutes later, I think there a moment in the films where we cut to the kids on the swing set. That was probably actually accurate as to what happened. There were hot dogs. There were hamburgers. There was gossip. There are go-carts. And they would snap back within two or three minutes of the revival meeting into this regular, normal, everyday kid mode. So it wasn't that they'd do back to their cabins and cry themselves to sleep. They'd go play with flashlights and tell ghost stories, and talk about Harry Potter and all those things you see in the film.
So it's a mystery that I don't know that we ever got our heads around, because they do seem happy and well adjusted in a lot of ways. But the emotion they expressed is something people haven't witnessed before.
And when we asked the parents about the tears: "Why are they crying?" -- and the kids also tried to explain it the same way -- what they said was that God's heart is broken because we let him down and society is vile and people haven't come to Christ. So we are trying to feel God's broken heart. We have to cry and cry the tears for God. That was the answer that was given to us. I think it may go more into the Pentecostal/Charismatic form of worship more than mainline evangelical practice.
To truly appreciate the film, it helps to know that the filmmakers have enough respect for their subjects that they not only understand them, but are able to help others understand them. Even though they aren't part of the worldview of the film and its subjects, they have shared that world with us fairly. For a documentarian, that should be considered high praise.