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COULD
HAVE BEEN BETTER
Subject: AI_Artificial_Intelligence
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001
From: SSB
This modern
day Pinocchio retelling could have been a lot better had Kubrick
been alive to finish off his ideas. The thought that Speilberg would
stay true to the idea is non-sensical because we all bring our own
thought and ideas into everything that we do. As a religious person,
I see this movie as an affront to God, whereas man tries to become
like God by trying to create life. The good doctor keeps trying
to create a better robot (man), science won't let a person die (freezing
ill patients) and the search for the blue fairy who is supposed
to grant life (God). Even the "alien" creatures toward the end of
the movie, who can basically bring the dead back to life, if even
for just one day.
I especially
did not like the morality of this movie. It teaches that we should
hate anything not like us, except children. The robots are caged
and brutalized for the entertainment of the masses, just like different
societies have been since the dawn of man, from Roman times up through
slavery of the African peoples. We'll hunt you, enslave you, torture
you, all for our joy! What kind of message is this?
Also taught
- When you get tired of something, say a family pet, take it into
the woods and leave it there, without any notion of how to survive
in the wild. Either that or get it euthanized (or disassembled as
in the fllick).
Remember, if
you pray hard and long enough to a plaster statue of a fairy tale
creature (say, 2,000 years), a "Close Encounter" creature will return
and reamimate the dead for you...
LEFT
ME UNSATISFIED
Subject: AI_Artificial_Intelligence
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001
From: Darrel Manson
I'm one of those
who wasn't as thrilled with AI as I'd hoped to be. Not because I
expected it to be cute, but because at the end it tried to be. I
might have liked it better to end with the Sartean Hell of constant
unfulfilled hope at the bottom of the sea. It would at least have
been thought provoking and something I could fight with. In stead
he gets his moment of heaven and then is ready to dream for eternity.
Better films dealing with what it means to be human are The Truman
Show and even the somewhat light-weight Bicentennial Man.
-- Darrel Manson
><>Artesia Christian Church ICQ 5624184 ><>Artesia, CA http://netministries.org/see/churches/ch01198
First they ignore you
Then they laugh at you
Then they fight you
Then you win
-Gandhi
BEYOND
THE BLUE FAIRY
Subject: AI AI_Artificial_Intelligence
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001
From: Dotcom
This film is
simply a re-telling of the story of Pinocchio. It goes beyond the
obvious references of the Blue Fairy. Consider the bear (Jiminy
Cricket), being captured for money, caged and in show business (the
lure for Pinocchio), going to Rouge City (Pleasure Island), searching
underwater for the Blue Fairy (searching for Geppetto/the whale).
I watched the cartoon the same day as the movie, and couldn't believe
the parallelism. What a disappointment. (This is the second time
Spielberg has retold a classic. His Jurassic Park 2 was a re-telling
of King Kong. It had no resemblance to the book.)
Dotcom
USE
OF THE TULIP
Subject: AI AI_Artificial_Intelligence
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001
From: Mike Parnell
David, I have
been wondering about the choice of words to imprint David to Monica.
The one that jumped out at me is tulip. The word tulip is a an acrostic
for Calvinist theology. The letter T represents total depravity.
The letter U represents unconditional election. The L represents
limited atonement, while the I signifies irresistible grace. The
P symbolizes the perseverance of the saints.
How this relates
is that the humans in the film are all caught in their totally depraved
mind. This phrase does not mean what many hold that it does. According
to John H. Leith, the phrase means that humans are blinded by sin.
The humans in the film are blinded by the sin of hatred toward the
mechas because they would endure even after the humans were gone.
This truth is evident by the ending with the advanced mechas finding
David. The idea of unconditional election means that those who are
the elect are those who are redeemed. Redemption comes in the form
of the re-creation of Monica. Monica is re-created and freed from
her grief, which is sin that blinds her from the love of David.
The limited atonement speaks to the limit of redemption only for
the elect. Those who are chosen to be re-created are those who are
elected. The irresistible grace means that the unconditional love
of Christ cannot be ignored. David holds that unconditional love
and it is so great that Monica cannot ignore it. The perseverance
of the saints is the belief that those who are elected are responsible
for their actions after election takes place. In other words, fulfillment
of their task is the role of those who are elected. Monica's task
was to love David. Here blindness to that, because of grief, kept
her from fulfilling her role. The love of David, which is agape,
speaks of her unconditional election. David loves her unconditionally
and her choice as Mommy is an unconditional choice. The love of
David is limited to her. David does not love Henry in the same fashion
that he loves Monica. David loves Monica and that love is irresistible.
His love cannot be stopped. In the end, Monica achieves her purpose.
She perseveres to the end and does declare to David her love.
It may be that
the film is speaking more about the redemption of Monica than it
is in the fulfillment of David. David is the means in which redemption
is offered to Monica. His love brings her to the point of being
able to be free of her grief over Martin's illness. The wound of
the illness, and near death, acts to blind her. She only sees David
through the eyes of being a wounded person. The lens she views David
is always the distorted lens of Martin. Martin proves his true colors
by the way he treats David. When the grief of Martin's illness is
gone, then the distorted lens is gone. David is seen for what he
is: a person who loves and longs for the return of love. David,
you don't know how much I am grateful for what you do in your ministry.
Just to be able to take a few minutes and write some rambling thoughts
about a film is one of the great gifts that you provide for me.
Thanks and may God continue to use you to spread his message to
the world.
Mike Parnell
CRIED
SEVERAL TIMES
Subject: AI AI_Artificial_Intelligence
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001
From: Paul
Although not
a particularly effusive person, I came close to crying several times
in this film and again when reading your wonderful analysis.
This film has
many precendents and influences: D.A.R.Y.L. is also about a child-robot
who not only wants to be a real boy, but in his case believes that
he is, and is devastated to learn otherwise. But A.I. (no offence
to Barret Oliver, who played Daryl beautifully) is an altogether
deeper and more sophisticated treatment of this theme.
There are remarkable
precedents also in Blade Runner, about life between mostly degraded
humans and sentient, sometimes rebellious androids in a terrifying,
decadent future American metropolis. In both Blade Runner and A.I.,
an android meets his human maker personally and is disappointed.
Is this future (followed, as in A.I., by extinction of our species)
what the human race is heading for? Don't trust an overoptimistic
assumption if you arrived too late to see your local cinema's own
previews of coming attractions. This film is a cult classic, and
by following so closely in its footsteps Spielberg et al. have much
to live up to. I think they contributed worthily to the same themes
and genre.
A memorable
sermon by one of my favorite clergymen almost twenty years ago contrasted
this film, in which robots aspire to human status, with "The Stepford
Wives", in which humans are forced to become robots. If you think
that perceiving the humanity and worthiness of those who are different
might not be the will of God, the latter film's contemplation of
the consequences of doing the reverse might clarify the picture.
One of the most
moving episodes of AI occurred at the end, in which David was allowed
to live (or re-live) a single day with his mother, and found it
rich enough to satisfy all the aspirations that had driven him literally
for millennia, also opening the audience's eyes to the preciousness
of life and relationships. Thornton Wilder had proffered such a
scenario to very edifying effect in his drama "Our Town." It says
something about the value of our "threescore years and ten" set
against an eternal destiny.
David, our host,
you are too humble. You should have been the first to point out
the meaning of the name you share with the film's hero. It means
"beloved." How ironic that name became during the course of the
film! I agree with the contributor who said that intelligent children
should not be kept from seeing it. It was the behavior of David's
young peers toward him, who was made simply to love and be loved,
that spoiled everything for him. This happens every day among children
themselves when they don't think.
IT
GOT TO ME
Subject: AI AI_Artificial_Intelligence
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001
From: David Morrissey
Even though
the story seemed to fade towards the end, I still enjoyed AI very
much and (as all great movies do) it got me to think. The most amazing
thing about the movie was how it looked. Even if you hated the story,
you couldn't deny that Speilberg did an excellent job of making
the screen look magical. Beyond that, I thought the story did a
couple things to expand my imagination.
First of all,
the movie, because it takes place far in the future and goes even
farther by the end, it really expanded my belief of how big God
really is. I was truly humbled when I realized that God is so much
bigger than my life, than David's life, and than the years and years
that pass in the story.
The second reason
I liked it is because of how real and personal it made our quest
(as humans) for "higher meaning". Joe and David even bring it up
in the movie. I thought it amazing that even as a robot, David's
only goal was unconditional love. The thought of that made God's
gift of grace also so much more amazing.
AI is a great
movie for anyone who enjoys sci-fi and a great discussion starter
too.
David Morrissey
Youth Pastor
Waukeenah, FL
DIDN'T
CARE MUCH FOR THE MOVIE
Subject: AI_Artificial_Intelligence
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001
From: "Daniel Baer"
Dear David,
This letter is my two cents worth regarding A.I.
In a nutshell,
I didn't much care for the movie. "In-this-world" science fiction
(as opposed to fantasy science fiction) should have the feel of
plausibility to it. A.I. stumbles on this count in various ways.
For example,
the emotion/logic dichotomy introduced in the film--wherein the
old-style robots have logical minds but not emotional ones--seems
artificial. Scientists who are studying A.I. know that if a machine
were to develop consciousness it would have to be of quite a different
quality than the "deep blue" machines which play chess so well.
Deep-blue type machines are logical but have no consciousness. Humans
who play chess well (and lets not forget that grand masters still
more often than not beat the chess machines) solve chess problems
in an entirely different manner from that of the deep-blue type
machine. Deep blues "think" through billions of possibilities; humans
seem to leap over most and concentrate on those relatively few possibilities
which show the most promise (this is called solving the framework
problem). Merely increasing a computer's speed or the number of
possibilities which it can think of per second will not bring about
consciousness. Spielberg, though, seems to believe the idea that
conscious-attaining machines will follow after some point in the
progression of computers of today--that is, after they have attained
a certain amount of computational power. Hence, he arrives at the
conclusion that these first machines will be logical but not emotional.
Also, even if machines were to have logical but not emotional consciousness--it
is doubtful that such machines would do humans much good in their
day-to-day tasks. An analogous situation is the genie who keeps
on getting the wishes wrong of his master--because he doesn't understand
his master's intent. A computer without emotion would be extremely
user-unfriendly because it would have no idea of what its master's
intent was unless its master expressed this intent in an extremely
cumbersome, technical jargon (i.e., computer programmer's jargon).
Other problems:
How is it that Monica can be resurrected for one day only? In the
hard sciences, constants generally are vanishingly small or of astronomical
proportions (think Avogadro's number). The idea that there exists
a constant in the space-time continuum of "from sun-up to sun-down"
somehow rings on the contrived side.
Also, if David
imprinted onto Monica, why couldn't the robots of 2,000 years into
the future simply create a simulation of Monica which would make
David happy? Obviously David didn't imprint onto Monica's personality--the
imprinting process occurred only after Monica said five words--therefore,
the imprinting must have involved Monica's looks, her voice, or
her handprint (she was holding David behind the neck). These things
could easily be duplicated by the futuristic robots (with or without
a strand of hair).
Also, why do
Professor Hobby's speeches to David just so happen to explain so
much and also advance the plot along. Again, things seem contrived.
I found it difficult to believe that the speeches just happened
as opposed to being "set up" by Spielberg to move the story to the
next plot point. Also, what about the manner in which David's memories
show up on the futuristic robots' faces? Never mind that today we
have computers which have screens that fit right in front of one's
eyes--2,000 years in the future they'll still have full-facial screens.
This wouldn't have anything to do with Spielberg attempting to "show
not tell" something, would it?
Sincerely, Daniel Baer
THOUGHTS
Subject: ai AI_Artificial_Intelligence
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001
From: Ken Tunnell
Greetings David,
I've been visiting your website for years now and thank you for
the work. Our views on Christianity and movies are generally similar
(to give you a real quick sketch of where I'm coming from I'll use
our common language and tell you my five favorite films - The
Matrix; BladeRunner; Chariots
of Fire; MP's Holy Grail & Life of Brian and I trust The
Lord of the Rings Trilogy will usurp something from this list);
but, we are far apart on AI. I left the theater feeling the film
had several serious flaws - and upon further reflection have divided
these into plot and message.
First, the more
mundane area of plot. That the father would be so involved in the
beginning and then fade away for no apparent reason was troublesome.
I found it quite odd that the mother would imprint alone - I saw
this as a spiritual scene also, but more reminiscent of Eve's Temptation
and Fall in wanting to be like God (by creating a being to love
her outside of the natural order). Interesting that in the Fall
story, Eve is also alone (some have indicated that this reveals
the male's primary sin of disattachment, of not engaging - but that's
a different topic all together). And again at the abandonement,
father is remote and absent. The death of Joe's regular customer
just seems a quick and dirty method to move Joe into the escape
story (OK, so Moses killed and that's why he fled too - but in the
film it just seems to come out of nowhere, better to have Joe kill
a human who was abusing someone). At the Flesh Fair I saw the turning
of the audience against the "prophet" as utterly unrealistic - if
these were truly rebelling against artificiality, then David should
have been the epitomy of anethema. That he escapes so easily does
not ring true (as for the baby Jesus imagery, it would have been
much more true to have him pursued - Herod certainly did). It is
the triumph of appearance over substance, but I'm getting into the
message part. So, they find the place where the lions weep in a
wasteland, but lo, this is a highly sophicticated assembly plant
for mechas. Where's the infrastructure? Who in their right mind
would do this here? The Cain/Abel scene seemed gratuitous and just
furthered ambivalent feelings towards David. If the creator wanted
him to come home (seemingly of his own free will - "we gave you
just enough information"), why did they just let him escape? Where
did they go? It seemed inevitable that we would have the creator/being
conflict ala Frankenstien or BladeRunner.
But no, the creator just disappears. How can spinach totally inactivate
him but freezing salt water is no problem? Why do the cops show
up and only take Joe? What the heck does he mean by saying "I AM,
I WAS" as he ascends? Is Joe the Christ figure, leaving David to
sort it all out? I just found myself repeatedly thinking, this makes
no sense. Yes, it's a fairy tale, but they especially need to make
sense on the mundane level or the message is further diluted.
Hmm, quite a
rant it seems. Now on to the message part. In the beginning scene,
a colleague of the creator asks if this is an ethical issue, and
they all seem to be amused by it - as if some reference to the world
being flat has just been made. So, David is set out for a test run
by the creator - with seemingly little preparation for the real
world and no further guidance by the creator. It seems that all
you need is love. David is cast out of his own garden of Eden and
left to make his way in the fallen world. To help him we get two
creatures who are admittedly less than he is. He finds his creator
only to realize that David's purpose is to be just a cog in the
industrial machine (he is not unique) so it's escape once more.
He prays to his God for two thousand years and when he finally gets
to touch his God archetype, it is hollow and crumbles. So, he settles
for the appearance, the facsimile of his Garden of Eden, his paradise.
The triumph of appearance over substance. This film left me with
a very hopeless materialism - and if God or anything supernatural
exists it is either uninvolved or just in it for fun and profit
(I wonder if this is why the creato's name is "Hobby").
I agree that
the film is technically a treat, but I found the plot devices to
be very weak and the message quite in contrast to the Christian
worldview. In your review, you state that, "Again, in a very real
sense, the film is about the search for true humanity, love and
God." If this is so, then the film would seem to say, none of it
exists - so the best you can do is just settle for your own little
dream. Realize that this is a quick lunch-break review, so if there's
anything that doesn't make sense or seems undeveloped, please ask
me to clarify.
Under The Mercy,
Ken Tunnell
SEEING
WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE
Subject:
AI_Artificial_Intelligence
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001
From: "Traci"
I am surprised
that there are so many christians who don't recognize something
bad when they see it. Now I like movies as much as the next person
maybe a little more. I like Sci-Fi best of all. I wait and wait
for the next good one to come out. I am not in a rush to like them
all though. You have to be espectially discriminating when it comes
to S. F. Don't be fooled by the good feeling generated by this movie.
It is full of hatred of the human race as a whole. The humans are
the bad guys in this movie and the only enlightened and good beings
are artificial intelligence or aliens. I knew from the first few
lines of the movie what I was in for. Humans had destroyed the earth
and caused the polar ice caps to melt. Humans were only out for
what they could get and on there way to decimating themselves which
we saw happened soon enough in the movie. They were nearly all selfish,
mean, and violent.
Response:
Actually Traci, there is a great devotion toward humans at the end
of the film and a real search for true humanity and human value
throughout the entire film. To miss this is to miss the intent of
the film. There is a cautionary note about the harmful exploits
of humanity toward the environment, but this should not be read
as hatred for humanity.
In
terms of humanity, according to the Bible, "all have sinned...
there are none righteous." It is human rebellion that brings
the apocalypse (as in the movie). The Bible also teaches that God's
wrath will be poured out on humanity. Do you see the Bible as filled
with "hatred of the human race" because of these statements?
By the way Traci, there are no aliens in the film. Those "aliens"
represent the works of humanity. According to scriptures, after
the "end of the world" (as in the movie) humanity will
be judged by their works (as in the movie). Spielberg personifies
our works as Mechas. I think, Traci, you are confusing your political
views with biblical teaching. -David
HOPE
Subject: AI_Artificial_Intelligence
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001
From: Mark
Paul said, "The
key to a righteous life is to believe in hope." David was the only
character to have hope, and hope in something more powerful than
man or machine. And he was rewarded." A wonderful film.
PROFOUND
SPIRITUALITY IN UNLIKELY PLACES
Subject: AI_Artificial_Intelligence
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001
From: Michael Franz
While other
"Christian" reviewers seem to do nothing but complain about the
number of "f"-words in a movie, you always seem to find profound
spiritual meaning in the most unlikely of places. It's people like
you that restore my faith, not just in God, but in humanity. There's
a review of AI from another Christian site that is much like your
own. I think you might find it interesting. It's at http://promontoryartists.org/lookingcloser/ai.htm.
I've never seen such a comprehensive and deep look at ANY movie
before.
Check it out!
Michael Franz
rick_summon@yahoo.com
Response:
Thanks for the good words.
LOVED
IT!
Subject: AI
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001
From: "Hiawatha Bray"
The bad reviews
for this movie leave me mystified. I think it's the best SF film
in years, and one of the best movies Spielberg has ever made.
Hiawatha Bray
Technology Reporter
Boston Globe
Response:
Absolutely. This is an amazing film. Critics should take a second
look at this important film. There is nothing else like it. -David
THE
POWER TO LOVE
Subject: AI Artificial Intelligence
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001
From: Mike
AI is a true
masterpiece. It has caused me to think in ways few movies have in
the last few years. Spielberg has outdone himself and given us an
understanding of what it means to be an abused child. The story
of David's journey is a mirror of those who have been abused and
yet still hold on to the belief that there is love that can be given
that will redeem and renew and fulfill. There is such yearning in
all the characters of the film that I was breathless when I left
the theater.
What I witnessed
is the power of unrequited love and that love can move, even a machine,
to strive to see filling of the emptiness that is in all of us.
From Monica, the mother, to Dr. Hobby, David's maker, to David,
we see people trying to find a fulfillment of self, a move toward
self-actualization. This self-actualization is not found within,
but without. There is no completion of life until love that is given
and received makes us complete. I was taken by David's determination
to see the dream of the "Blue Fairy" realized. His dream is to become
real in order to give the love that will make him complete and make
Monica complete. He becomes human because he loves and love is what
drives him. At the Flesh Fair, we see how love overcomes the human
hate of that which the humans made (the mechas) that lives on beyond
ourselves. Love is the factor that makes us human. For without love
we are nothing more than robots that strut and fret our hour upon
the stage and then are gone. Love is what makes the vapor of life,
that James talks about, meaningful.
Humanity is
flawed at its core, but is redeemed by the yearning to love that
motivates us all. Without this yearning we lose sight of what is
the purpose of life. God is love and created us to love him. We
love others and that love is a reflection of the love of God.
I know that
what I write sounds like rambling, but I truly was moved to the
point of tears by this film. Let me say one word in closing. I was
listening to NPR this morning. Scott Simon was interviewing a nun
who had been tortured in her service to Christ and the church. He
asked her where was God during the time of her torture. The nun
replied that her God went into the place of torture, but died during
the time of her captivity. When I heard that I shed tears of shame
of how humans that can be so inhuman. Those who tortured this servant
of Christ were able to be so devoid of love that they destroyed
the relationship between this nun and God. The power of love is
so great that when someone is deprived of it that it can cause them
to lose sight of the greater lover of all and make them believe
that the love is gone out of the world.
Thanks to Steven
Spielberg and Stanley Kubrick for reminding me that the power of
love (agape love) is what makes me human and thanks to the story
of that tortured nun that reminded me that when we are so unloving
we can kill the God of a servant of Christ.
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